List Mgmt. 2018 Trade, Free Agency & Draft Thread MK 3 [JP✔️ JPII✔️ Hall✔️ BScott✔️ Tyson✔️ Clarke➡️ Preuss➡️]

[The Nostradamus]

List management team has a chance to prove themselves now otherwise sack them

Starting with Joyce

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Someone on our board claiming they have taken several media commitments from Nicnat and given them to Gaff for some extra $$$.

If true, whats the point of a salary cap?

 

[Moti]

I can't help thinking the time spent on the Gaff saga has cost us having a shot at someone else , if Gaff indicated to North he was coming plan B would of been thrown out and some blokes chopped from our list . Players along with the PA pushed for free agency in their words for "more player movement " , truth is its just for the ability to push their own club to fork out more .
Gaff isn't the missing link in our success , it is 2% more desire , hunger , killer instinct , go in when its your turn and apply pressure even if you can't get to the contest . For us the members and fans , join up , turn up and make some noise .
Im 43 and seen the highs and some of the lows , Premierships is what we want for the club and us . I would rather nothing more than to high 5 , hug and party for days with all of you and everybody else would bleed blue and white .

And about 20% better coaching. Simpson, Buckley, Hardwick all made big strides and coached better. Scott becoming a good coach could be enough


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[Horizons_00]

Is there something wrong with our negotiations?

Are we not strict enough? Too “understanding?”. We act way too confident when a contract hasn’t even been signed yet, hope north has something up their sleeve

No one in history has waited this long to change their mind and stay
Something is wrong, can’t be a coincidence or is it just because we ain’t a destination club enough yet?

So many questions and no answers lol

 

[hilly]

I just hate the fact that idiots..

Enough said.




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[Roosurgence]

We tried thinking similar about Dustin. Didn't work out.

This has a lot more of an indecisive feel to it than Dusty.

Dusty had signed up by Preliminary Final week.

Gaff has strung this out longer than necessary due to flip flopping all over the place.

As I said I would rather we spend the money 100% committed to playing for us.

 

[Tas]

Silver lining people.

Do you really want to be paying $1M plus to a guy that has been to have said he was taking our offer only to reneg at the last minute?

Not sure this is the type of character that you want to be investing that heavily in.

The guy can play, but has come across as very non-commital and indecisive. Not someone who you want to be your highest paid player.

Yes?

I think people are getting melodramatic, it never was an issue of West Coast vs North Melbourne, we weren't in the hunting in that terms. It was West Coast vs Family and he has bailed on his family. Had he chosen family over West Coast, we would have won because we were a better option than any other club as far as he saw.

So I do not see it as our club being turned down.

 

[BlueRoos]

Whilst the Scrot may be a little gun shy, is there any word on our plan B?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Plan B is a joke. Make it happen now, or be prepared for another year of this bullshit.

 

[Del191229]

Well done on the tick.

When will it dawn on people that The Footy Gods are real, and they are vengeful.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Well done on the tick.

When will it dawn on people that The Footy Gods are real, and they are vengeful.

If they are real, I'm not sure why they didn't punish Essendon enough.

 

[Tas]

After last years letdowns - I think it would of been a good idea to wait till he was signed up before doing the other re-signings.

Who did we let go as a precursor to getting Gaff? Hartung? Mountford? Clarke?

These guys were just going to get in the way of Anderson, Dumont, Ahern, Thomas and hopefully Scott.

 

[shagger_grant]

Nick Bowen AFL website:

It's also understood North has a 'Plan B' that will be activated now.

They have for some time been eyeing another opposition midfielder in the event they missed out on Gaff.

 

[shinboner magic]

This has a lot more of an indecisive feel to it than Dusty.

Dusty had signed up by Preliminary Final week.

Gaff has strung this out longer than necessary due to flip flopping all over the place.

As I said I would rather we spend the money 100% committed to playing for us.

We really need to put an expiry date on our offers - getting strung along like a lovestruck Virgin.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Nick Bowen AFL website:

It's also understood North has a 'Plan B' that will be activated now.

They have for some time been eyeing another opposition midfielder in the event they missed out on Gaff.

Please don't be Shiel, please don't be Shiel...

 

[jess_1804]

Someone on our board claiming they have taken several media commitments from Nicnat and given them to Gaff for some extra $$$.

After hearing snippets of his radio segments I hope they’re non-speaking gigs

 

[Zondor]

And criticizing the club, honestly, I think it's a little unfair. We're all a bit pissed off and emotional at the moment, I get that.

Sure we can't blame those at the club for "trying" to entice High Profile Players but we can question their failures. Wasn't this idea of an "Agressive Reset" based in part on securing High Profile Players? What is the point of this "War Chest" if it can't be utilised?

Hey I get it. People of good ilk, trying their best, work at the Football Club. But have they been successful at landing a big name recruit? How have we progressed in the Brad Scotts Era over the last 9 years? We have been "Average". The results don't lie.

As I've suggested before a pattern has emerged. We continue to target Players with Big Money Offers yet have struggled to land any of them. Polec who has only finished once in the top 10 of a BnF is the Biggest Name who has "Publicly" committed to our club in recent years. Yet his contract and talent is not of the ilk of our other targets. That is disappointing and it is understandable that NMFC fans wouldn't be happy with this and as such place the blame on those at the Football Club.

Others have posed the argument that it is extremely difficult to recruit a high profile player from another club as a defence to this criticism. Well then if it is so difficult to recruit Top Quality players from other clubs why do we continue to go down the same road? Ponder that Big Footy? :stern look

 

[Firestarter]

We really need to put an expiry date on our offers - getting strung along like a lovestruck Virgin.

Eww. What's Richard Branson doing here?

 

[Brezsa]

Where's that Carlton poster from like three hours ago

Here, read what I actually said he had cold feet yesterday, and i said it was too far down the line to change now, Turks out he decided there was a way back.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Here, read what I actually said he had cold feet yesterday, and i said it was too far down the line to change now, Turks out he decided there was a way back.

Ah good now I can thread ban you

 

[see see]

The question which remains unanswered is this: Did his girlfriend really quit her job in Perth?

She's a teacher isn't she? Assuming teachers in WA are as underpaid as their Victorian counterparts, I'm sure that his new Eagles contract more than covers what she was making per year. And then some.

Or **tin foil hat time**, maybe she's been offered a significantly higher paying job by the Eagles or a related party.

 

[Horizons_00]

Nick Bowen:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-07/analysis-gaff-gone-but-roos-wont-give-up

NORTH Melbourne won't be deterred in its bid to land a rival midfield star in the wake of its near-miss with West Coast free agent Andrew Gaff.

The Roos jostled their way in front of five other Victorian clubs circling Gaff to be the Eagle's clear-cut preference if he chose to return to his home state.

They came similarly close to luring Dustin Martin and Josh Kelly to Arden St last year too.

But a near-miss is still a miss in the cut-throat AFL, so the predictable response of many will be that North's inability to land a big fish has again been exposed.

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North's missed targets recently have included Adam Treloar, Dan Hannebery, Isaac Heeney and Jordan De Goey.

Of all the players mentioned above, only Treloar left to go to a rival club.

Although Gaff was the Roos' undoubted No.1 target this year, the pending acquisition of Jared Polec will help ease their disappointment, while Aaron Hall also shapes as a handy midfield acquisition.

It's also understood North has a 'Plan B' that will be activated now.

They have for some time been eyeing another opposition midfielder in the event they missed out on Gaff.

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But with so little time left before the NAB AFL Trade Period ends on October 17, and with their 2018 first-round pick already committed to Port Adelaide in the Polec trade, the Roos realise they have their work cut out for them.

If this late bid fails, North won't fret. It will simply load up again next year.

Its No.1 target then will be GWS star Kelly.

Even if the Roos had landed Gaff, they had been at pains to ensure they retained enough salary cap space to make a serious bid for Kelly when he came out of contract in 2019.

Now they have retained the $8 million or so they had set aside for Gaff over the next seven years, North can prepare an offer for Kelly that would make him the AFL's highest-paid player.

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Winning Kelly's signature, however, won't be easy.

Most other Victorian clubs will be just as keen to lure him home, while the Giants will fight tooth and nail to keep him.

As much as Greater Western Sydney's preparedness to consider trades for Dylan Shiel, Rory Lobb, Will Setterfield and Jeremy Finlayson is about easing its salary cap squeeze, it's also designed to create the room it needs to re-sign the host of star Giants coming out of contract at the end of next season. Kelly, Stephen Coniglio and Nick Haynes head that list.

Not that any of this will deter North.

It's not about to lower its sights on the back of missing Gaff. It's not about to die wondering.

SO many other clubs try to get free agents over and fail but no one says shit. Give me a spell

 

[Tas]

Someone on our board claiming they have taken several media commitments from Nicnat and given them to Gaff for some extra $$$.

I don't think it was about the money. I am sure the Eagles tabled as good an offer as they could to him. I think the issue at heart was the pull to be closer to his family enough to lure him away.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Please don't be Shiel, please don't be Shiel...

Uhh why? Shiel is the best mid available

After him daylight

Wingard I would love to turn into a mid though as per his under 18 days

 

[giantroo]