List Mgmt. 2018 Trade, Free Agency & Draft Thread MK 3 [JP✔️ JPII✔️ Hall✔️ BScott✔️ Tyson✔️ Clarke➡️ Preuss➡️]

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Oh to be a fly on the wall the next time a round table meeting is held with the club powerbrokers and Connors regarding JK.
They should present a contract offer and a deadline for Kelly to accept then they can pursue a trade.

If they spend another year winking at him across the bar, they are irresponsible.
 
I think there are good enough reasons for us to try to steer clear of any players managed by Connors.

Players in his stable have burnt us big time now. At the very least there needs to be a very serious conversation with him. If he is just using us to force other clubs to pay more money for free agents, then that's very poor form. No doubt other clubs will be looking at this as well.
 

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Tell Kelly if he wants the money it is this year or never.

Lots of other blokes walk out on contracts.

We're so ... nice.
The handshake agreement of September 2017 meant something prior to 2:30PM today.
It means **** all now. Not four fifths but the whole five fingers worth.
We love sentiment in football and all those cliches but a Puma or a TV show deal in waiting shits all over sentiment.
 
I think there are good enough reasons for us to try to steer clear of any players managed by Connors.

It's got nothing to do with Connors this time. Gaff personally confirmed he was coming less than a week ago.
 
I think there are good enough reasons for us to try to steer clear of any players managed by Connors.

Players in his stable have burnt us big time now. At the very least there needs to be a very serious conversation with him. If he is just using us to force other clubs to pay more money for free agents, then that's very poor form. No doubt other clubs will be looking at this as well.
It's no coincidence.

I'd let every club know to be very wary about dealing with this campaigner.
 
I think there are good enough reasons for us to try to steer clear of any players managed by Connors.

Players in his stable have burnt us big time now. At the very least there needs to be a very serious conversation with him. If he is just using us to force other clubs to pay more money for free agents, then that's very poor form. No doubt other clubs will be looking at this as well.
Maybe in the insular world of AFL it might be a small issue with the clubs.

But leveraging interest from elsewhere to get better deals for your clients is Managing 101. If anything it will have players wanting to flock to him knowing that he's good at his job and can make the most of their contracts.
 
Tell Kelly if he wants the money it is this year or never.

Lots of other blokes walk out on contracts.

We're so ... nice.

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We can stop chasing targets of top 4 teams, it is a hard enough sell getting players out of shitbag clubs with no future, trying to pry great talent from clubs that have or are looking like achieving success is low probability.

If Kelly says he doesn't think GWS has a shot after 2019 and he is ready to return home you think the club is going to say, "Sorry Josh, 2019 or never."?
 
The Dusty saga last year I wasn’t privy to but Kelly and Gaff both being managed by Connors, both changing minds last minute - what is it?
If you tentatively commit and then renege, after North was more than courteous, more than welcoming - it’s a slap in the face.
The fact our senior coach was involved so personally as well, I say **** being nice.
We support Joyce, we support Brad and if we piss off Connors reputation with other clubs so be it.
Go after Kelly, go after Coniglio, whatever it takes be ruthless.
If the feelings of player managers impact who we talk to then we’ve already lost. It’s happened twice, whose to say it won’t happen again?

I don’t doubt Connors is a good bloke and his management company are reputable, but facts are facts we are not guaranteed Kelly next year and history states he’s only ever used us as pawns. Argue otherwise.
Who does he manage that is at North now?



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Integrity of a peanut. To reneg so late if he made a commitment, knowing it impacts player delisting, contracts etc....well I’m now glad the peanut is staying in the West. I already did, but now more so, hope Trent, Jy, LDU etc come on in spades and run right over the top of the thug!!!

I have a friend who knew Gaff before he went to West Coast. My friend is generally an affable guy and gets along with everyone but mention Gaff's name and the way he changes his hilarious. Apparently Gaff is a grade A w***er.
 
I wanted to believe you lot, although I knew my sauces had given me a fair shake off the ketchup bottle with no mayonnaise.

It's very disappointing that it has happened this way again. Has lightning stalled twice, or is our football department just a little bit shit?
 
I have a friend who knew Gaff before he went to West Coast. My friend is generally an affable guy and gets along with everyone but mention Gaff's name and the way he changes his hilarious. Apparently Gaff is a grade A w***er.

Where were all these negative character references before he said no? :stern look
 
I wonder if this means Finlayson is about to become the most overpaid player in the AFL?
 
I am disappointed Gaff did the back flip, and while I respect it is his decision to do what he wants, if he thinks that is how you conduct your business then WC can have him. On our targeting of other players I am fine with it and I don"t care what the other media people say, 3/4 of them wanted us to go to the Gold Coast, all of them said we would suck this year and really who gives a flying #@&% what they think. They have been trying to kill us for 150 years and we are still here and have never been stronger.

Our culture is first class, just look at all the Melbourne Uni ladies who swapped to North as soon as they could, and how Higgins and Waite talk about being at North. That attitude is more important than all the players who decided to stay with their current club and will bring us a premiership faster than any player. I hope the club is publicly very considerate on this matter, I trust they are ripping shreds through Connors and Gaff privately for making this such a shit show, and then put Connors on his last warning, any more crap like this and black list him.
 
It's got nothing to do with Connors this time. Gaff personally confirmed he was coming less than a week ago.
Connors would have sold the deal to Gaff tho mate.
Gaff would ask him what his other clients think of the club, what coaches are like, leadership group etc.
Connors would then ask North what it’s offer is and get to work on getting the best deal. It gets to the point where we meet the players criterion as stated by his manager and then at 11th hour we get told thanks but no thanks?

A client is influenced and swayed by so many factors but ultimately seeks guidance and counsel from his manager and on two occasions our pursuit of a target resulted in no decision.
Kelly and Gaff didn’t leave for another club. They stayed put. We weren’t in competition for anyone else for their services. It was us or stay put.
How can we believe we weren’t used as an inflatory medium?

Because that’s all we’ve done. Got Kelly
and Gaff the best deal to stay, not leave.
 
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