List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[perplexed]

Shhhh, do not want my loophole closed! Shhhhh you.


I really like different thinking, surely this, over us selling 2 for gross unders.

Hannaford and Gerryn this year, 3 R1 for remaining holes next year to get Sharp +2. I like it. Gives those we have already a chance to grow and be exposed one way or another. Well done! I like it.

I would love Hannaford, he's my favourite player in this draft, but he would have to be gone by then.

Another option for trading down and into next year might be

2 > 7, F1 with St Kilda and then something like 7, F3, 62 > 28, 31, F1 with Essendon as a live trade.

 

[perplexed]

Don't mind the thought but the last time we traded into the future it was a disaster and we'd miss out on some good players in the 1st round of this draft.
I'd prefer to round out our midfield with a bit more speed and class and better ball use inside 50 at 2 or trade with Saints for 7 and F1 before trading into next year.
But theoretically you could get a mid next year in the top 5, Ludo and Duursma with those three 1sts in 2025.
But Demons might also make finals and same with Bombres given we don't know what will happen next year, but they could also flame out. Bit of a risk and Powell trade is evidence of it not being a great move for me.

That trade was a disaster, but I think the covid year hurt us as more than the trade itself. You can always find mids. And I don't think we have to have top of the draft ones, we have enough of these, we need workhorses.

But the starting with the St Kilda trade would be a good idea, then seeing if our man gets through. If so take him, if not trade down further with Essendon or Sydney.

 

[chubbspeterson]

I would love Hannaford, he's my favourite player in this draft, but he would have to be gone by then.

Another option for trading down and into next year might be

2 > 7, F1 with St Kilda and then something like 7, F3, 62 > 28, 31, F1 with Essendon as a live trade.

That trade was a disaster, but I think the covid year hurt us as more than the trade itself. You can always find mids. And I don't think we have to have top of the draft ones, we have enough of these, we need workhorses.

But the starting with the St Kilda trade would be a good idea, then seeing if our man gets through. If so take him, if not trade down further with Essendon or Sydney.

I'd be just taking one of Smillie/Langford/Tauru/Armstrong/Shanahan at 7 vs trading into next year for a 3rd F1.
I think we lack a bit of class delivery and speed with TT gone and that mid would be versatile to rotate fwd/wing/hbf, where I"m not sure next years mids are quite as versatile, but it's early days with that draft class.

 

[perplexed]

I'd be just taking one of Smillie/Langford/Tauru/Armstrong/Shanahan at 7 vs trading into next year for a 3rd F1.
I think we lack a bit of class delivery and speed with TT gone and that mid would be versatile to rotate fwd/wing/hbf, where I"m not sure next years mids are quite as versatile, but it's early days with that draft class.

I think we have the class covered with Sheezel and McKercher. It's the two-way running where we struggle, I think you can find guys for that role later on.

 

[chubbspeterson]

I think we have the class covered with Sheezel and McKercher. It's the two-way running where we struggle, I think you can find guys for that role later on.

FOS, Draper, Lalor or Langford can run and tackle. Anyway we'll either finish off our midfield or split pick 2.
Can always take a tall by trading our F2 with Bombres 28.
Tomorrow the last day to swap picks before the draft and end of the DFA period, so will be interesting.

 

[muttley45]

Am i hallucinating, somehow we go from pick #2 to pick #28 and #31, and help * into the bargain ?

 

[dus]

Some of you have lost the plot.

 

[Firebat]

I would love Hannaford, he's my favourite player in this draft, but he would have to be gone by then.

Another option for trading down and into next year might be

2 > 7, F1 with St Kilda and then something like 7, F3, 62 > 28, 31, F1 with Essendon as a live trade.

Brady pls

Brady stop posting

 

[perplexed]

Some of you have lost the plot.

There's a plot now?

Is it the one where we all try and find reasons to use our first pick on a midfielder for the ninth year in a row?

 

[gokangas]

We made the rumour file (I know) on 3AW this morning. Rumour is that we will swap pick 2 with tiggers for 6 and 10 - deal today. Thats what was said.

 

[Makeshift Park]

We made the rumour file (I know) on 3AW this morning. Rumour is that we will swap pick 2 with tiggers for 6 and 10 - deal today. Thats what was said.

Well if its doesn’t happen today, it can’t happen until draft night

 

[GS WARRIORS]

We made the rumour file (I know) on 3AW this morning. Rumour is that we will swap pick 2 with tiggers for 6 and 10 - deal today. Thats what was said.

Even though it's the best deal we could get (and unlikely we get it), call me crazy, I'd rather keep 2 and take FOS or Draper.

 

[DuckYeah]

Well if its doesn’t happen today, it can’t happen until draft night

I thought trades of picks can happen all the way up until draft night?

 

[Merlin007]

We made the rumour file (I know) on 3AW this morning. Rumour is that we will swap pick 2 with tiggers for 6 and 10 - deal today. Thats what was said.

This thing about not shooting the messenger - very over-rated imo.

You're done for.

Sorry.

 

[Makeshift Park]

I thought trades of picks can happen all the way up until draft night?

Pick swaps can happen on draft night but not between tomorrow and then.

 

[roos 10]

Pick swaps can happen on draft night but not between tomorrow and then.

Can’t see it happening hope it does

 

[Shinboner1]

Even though it's the best deal we could get (and unlikely we get it), call me crazy, I'd rather keep 2 and take FOS or Draper.

Yeah but I'd rather get Langford, Smile or tauru and then the best key forward on the board.

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Yeah but I'd rather get Langford, Smile or tauru and then the best key forward on the board.

I can live with Tauru and Hannaford especially if we trade back to get Hannaford.

I think FOS/Draper are better than any two combo outside the top 4.

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

I would love Hannaford, he's my favourite player in this draft, but he would have to be gone by then.

Another option for trading down and into next year might be

2 > 7, F1 with St Kilda and then something like 7, F3, 62 > 28, 31, F1 with Essendon as a live trade.

And then we can trade the Saints and * F1st to Port for pick 50. Brilliant!

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Even though it's the best deal we could get (and unlikely we get it), call me crazy, I'd rather keep 2 and take FOS or Draper.

6+10 almost guarantees Tauru + Lindsay/Berry/Hannaford/Whitlock(s)/Armstrong/Trainor.

It gives us two guaranteed players in our top 6 that will help balance the list.

It also gives us perfect picks to sandbag Essendon+GC with bids on Kako and Lombard.

 

[perplexed]

And then we can trade the Saints and * F1st to Port for pick 50. Brilliant!

The point was really to look for ways to maximise the value of pick 2. Hopefully we can do it by splitting down this year, if we can't do this we could exploit the current undervaluing of future picks. We should keep any future firsts we can get our hands on, especially from clubs like *, Saints, Melbourne.

My concern is that short term thinking (and job preservation) is going to lead to us chucking away good picks for little gain. That is, take a mid at pick 2, then trade our future first for a mid to late first rounder. Getting little of need this year whilst destroying next year's draft hand.

 

[Passmore]

6 and 10 (or 11) would be about the only offer that would turn our heads you'd think. We wouldn't be pissing pick 2 away for a couple of random picks.

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[toepoker]

The point was really to look for ways to maximise the value of pick 2. Hopefully we can do it by splitting down this year, if we can't do this we could exploit the current undervaluing of future picks. We should keep any future firsts we can get our hands on, especially from clubs like *, Saints, Melbourne.

My concern is that short term thinking (and job preservation) is going to lead to us chucking away good picks for little gain. That is, take a mid at pick 2, then trade our future first for a mid to late first rounder. Getting little of need this year whilst destroying next year's draft hand.

How so? Trying to maximise value via a couple of 18yos in an area of need versus, say, one 18yo in a less pressing area hardly seems like short term thinking (or job preservation for that matter)

 

[Krakouer Bonar]

Some of you have lost the plot.

......most of them never had it!!

 

[perplexed]

How so? Trying to maximise value via a couple of 18yos in an area of need versus, say, one 18yo in a less pressing area hardly seems like short term thinking (or job preservation for that matter)

I think you may have misinterpreted my argument. I'm arguing for keeping a strong draft hand for next year and addressing weaknesses in the list rather than spending future picks or wasting pick 2 on another high-end mid.