List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Samsquanch]

Sounds like that washing machine the club bought a few years ago.

We had Scotts, that bloke from Sydney and the other bloke, none of whom bothered to read the instructions, used Cold Power in hot water and all of them messed around with the cycles and water levels so no wonder the bloody thing got our knickers in a twist!!!

 

[Psicosis]

Yes the F1 was on the table for Bombers 9, Freo's 11 and GC 13, but you don't know the full deals discussed.
You are making an assumption that we undervalued it because only pick 13 was mentioned.
My assumption would be the deal was 13 and one of 23 or 29.

Given that F1 & 13 were the only two picks reported on, I think it's a pretty fair enough assumption. I, like yourself, hope there was more to it. Very well may not have been though.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Given that F1 & 13 were the only two picks reported on, I think it's a pretty fair enough assumption. I, like yourself, hope there was more to it. Very well may not have been though.

Well they are the picks in the deal that really matter to journos, they don't really care about 2nd and 3rd round picks.
I know teams generally have to pay a bit of a premium to get picks in this year's draft, but even on points valuing our F1 optimistically as pick 5 (1795 pts) for 13 (1,212 pts) would suggest something else should be involved.
If there wasn't, then we either can't read a points table or really want somebody in that range.
Anyway, it didn't happen and we'll see what happens.

 

[ohmygewd]

It’s fairly public knowledge that our F1 has been on the table. The fact we were willing to part with it for pick 13, shows it as being undervalued IMO. If we were willing to trade it for 13, we can safely assume we were/are willing to trade it for anything earlier than 13 & potentially something later than 13. We haven’t been able to find a taker at this stage thankfully.

The market absolutely determines the value, but you don’t sell your house when the markets dead at a significantly lower rate unless you absolutely have to…

4 possible answers here:

1. List Man Team really don't give a f@#$ about the value of our F1 and desperately want a player(s) in mid to late 1st round?
2. List Man Team are backing our side finish with 11+ wins next year, and finish 10th or 9th (pick 9 or 10) therefore rendering F1 value a mid 1st rounder at best?
3. List Man Team f@#$ed up by getting nothing back in the Daniel deal and now scrambling to get back in the 1st or 2nd round?
4. List Man Team aren't interested in next years talent and are willing to fore go the best 1-18 talent in the land?

 

[chubbspeterson]

4 possible answers here:

1. List Man Team really don't give a f@#$ about the value of our F1 and desperately want a player(s) in mid to late 1st round?
2. List Man Team are backing our side finish with 11+ wins next year, and finish 10th or 9th (pick 9 or 10) therefore rendering F1 value a mid 1st rounder at best?
3. List Man Team f@#$ed up by getting nothing back in the Daniel deal and now scrambling to get back in the 1st or 2nd round?
4. List Man Team aren't interested in next years talent and are willing to fore go the best 1-18 talent in the land?

I would guess they want Luke Trainor or Lindsay.

 

[Passmore]

Won't matter what we do, it'll be wrong it seems.

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[Samsquanch]

Won't matter what we do, it'll be wrong it seems.

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I think you're right.

 

[The Dingrel]

Don’t think it’s Draper they are after. It’s O’Sullivan. Carlton also keen on him

I kind of like that, Carlton I reckon were pretty smug trading up to 3, also thinking they'd get Houston.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I kind of like that, Carlton I reckon were pretty smug trading up to 3, also thinking they'd get Houston.

I'd say Carlton go for Jagga at 3 if Adelaide go for FOS so we could well get Draper at 4. All depends on what Richmond do, if they take Lalor as expected it could be a tidy little slide back to our advantage.

 

[remfan101]

I wonder if any of the DFA's we've been linked to are a chance of being senior/rookie listed at the drafts? I remember Sebit Kuek, Lachlan Gollant, Gary Rohan

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and Charlie Clarke all getting mentioned around here, maybe train-on options?

 

[shinboner magic]

I wonder if any of the DFA's we've been linked to are a chance of being senior/rookie listed at the drafts? I remember Sebit Kuek, Lachlan Gollant, Gary Rohan and Charlie Clarke all getting mentioned around here, maybe train-on options?

Yeah no thanks

Hopefully we give the Werribee guys a go

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

I wonder if any of the DFA's we've been linked to are a chance of being senior/rookie listed at the drafts? I remember Sebit Kuek, Lachlan Gollant, Gary Rohan and Charlie Clarke all getting mentioned around here, maybe train-on options?

I heard Gollant is a strong chance to be on our list one way or another.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Won't matter what we do, it'll be wrong it seems.

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[roos_fanatic08]

I heard Gollant is a strong chance to be on our list one way or another.

An undersized pseudo key forward is exactly what we are screaming out for....

 

[Krakouer Bonar]

An undersized pseudo key forward is exactly what we are screaming out for....

Historical family links to the club might bring out the best in him. We've been looking at him a while now.

But of course if the nuffies say no, the club has no alternative really.

 

[Mr north man]

Yeah no thanks

Hopefully we give the Werribee guys a go

Give Werribee guys a go at what a spot on North VFL list think they would stay where they are.
If the following things hadn’t had happened Pink Triggering his contract clause and had both CCJ and George not gone down injured season ending injuries then you be taking some Werribee players as Pink,CCJ and George would have all been delisted.
In 12 months time the NMFC will have room to make more changers to the list then we can try and draft more better standard VFL players .

 

[King Corey]

But of course if the nuffies say no, the club has no alternative really.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Nothing worse than the forum poster who thinks they're above posting on a forum.

 

[Orange Peanut]

Historical family links to the club might bring out the best in him. We've been looking at him a while now.

But of course if the nuffies say no, the club has no alternative really.

Not suggesting rf08 is a nuffy surely?

 

[Liam Boy]

Nothing worse than the forum poster who thinks they're above posting on a forum.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Historical family links to the club might bring out the best in him. We've been looking at him a while now.

But of course if the nuffies say no, the club has no alternative really.

Genuine question do you really think we need a 191cm forward when we already have Zurhaar, Duursma, Ford, & Darling?

 

[shinboner magic]

Genuine question do you really think we need a 191cm forward when we already have Zurhaar, Duursma, Ford, & Darling?

Might be going for bad scotts land of giants backline Witt a little tweak if only having tweener forwards

 

[perplexed]

I really don't see the point of taking another mid at the top of this draft, there must be better options. So if we can't manage to trade down and take some tall and small forwards, should we try trading out and setting ourselves up for next year when the top of the draft is thought to be stronger?

2, 62, F2, F3 > 28, 31, F1, F1

This would give us three likely top ten picks next year and a couple of second rounders for talls from Gerryn, Barrat, Sims.
Essendon need to offload those second rounders or they get eaten up by matching a Kako bid. It's also been suggested they want to live trade back in. Pick 2 would surely be a better option for them than competing against other clubs for a late first rounder.

 

[Chip Scab1]

Aka the draft strategy of getting a pay day loan to cover the credit card debt you knocked up to deal with your cash advance that you took out to pay for your "buy now, pay later" whitegoods first instalment.

Shhhh, do not want my loophole closed! Shhhhh you.

I really don't see the point of taking another mid at the top of this draft, there must be better options. So if we can't manage to trade down and take some tall and small forwards, should we try trading out and setting ourselves up for next year when the top of the draft is thought to be stronger?

2, 62, F2, F3 > 28, 31, F1, F1

This would give us three likely top ten picks next year and a couple of second rounders for talls from Gerryn, Barrat, Sims.
Essendon need to offload those second rounders or they get eaten up by matching a Kako bid. It's also been suggested they want to live trade back in. Pick 2 would surely be a better option for them than competing against other clubs for a late first rounder.

I really like different thinking, surely this, over us selling 2 for gross unders.

Hannaford and Gerryn this year, 3 R1 for remaining holes next year to get Sharp +2. I like it. Gives those we have already a chance to grow and be exposed one way or another. Well done! I like it.

 

[chubbspeterson]

I really don't see the point of taking another mid at the top of this draft, there must be better options. So if we can't manage to trade down and take some tall and small forwards, should we try trading out and setting ourselves up for next year when the top of the draft is thought to be stronger?

2, 62, F2, F3 > 28, 31, F1, F1

This would give us three likely top ten picks next year and a couple of second rounders for talls from Gerryn, Barrat, Sims.
Essendon need to offload those second rounders or they get eaten up by matching a Kako bid. It's also been suggested they want to live trade back in. Pick 2 would surely be a better option for them than competing against other clubs for a late first rounder.

Don't mind the thought but the last time we traded into the future it was a disaster and we'd miss out on some good players in the 1st round of this draft.
I'd prefer to round out our midfield with a bit more speed and class and better ball use inside 50 at 2 or trade with Saints for 7 and F1 before trading into next year.
But theoretically you could get a mid next year in the top 5, Ludo and Duursma with those three 1sts in 2025.
But Demons might also make finals and same with Bombres given we don't know what will happen next year, but they could also flame out. Bit of a risk and Powell trade is evidence of it not being a great move for me.