Training 2018 Training, Pics etc

[Treesloth]

The speed thing with JSOS seems to be a common theme but is he really that slow? His old man never looked quick but always seemed to find a yard when needed and I think Jack is similar. Granted he does not have 'elite' speed but I think he has a good burst and evasiveness (and smarts to put himself in good spots) that might see him through. Guess he didn't test at the combine so comparison is hard. I really hope he makes it because I think he brings something a bit different to the forward line.

Agree. Reckon he's enough of a natural footballer to make it. Plenty smart too.

Reckon playing alongside the likes of Matty Wright will help. Definition of a footballer with no pace who gets by on footy smarts, discipline and hard work.

 

[blue bulldozer]

Does anyone know the injury SPS has and if it is expected to impact his preparation for round 1 and the season?

 

[Dowingham]

Does anyone know the injury SPS has and if it is expected to impact his preparation for round 1 and the season?

Not sure - He moved well during the drills though - Full pace - Just didnt play the intra club.

 

[RedFury]

Does Charlie remind anyone else of a naughty Labrador?

Much loved, but god would he be hard work.

This dog by any chance ?

 

[Blue since 72]

Billy Hartung is quick and has a massive tank! why didnt we just swap JSOS out for him and be done with any debate on the matter! This shiz would be so much easier if footy was just 400 meter running. That thug mitchell was as slow as treacle and short and fat, apparently in the end it turned out he could play footy tho...

now i'm getting confused as to which side i am debating... ASOS will no longer be required when we upgrade to BSOS

I did have the caveat of being fast and being able to play footy. Billy can't really play footy.

Actually that's unfair, he can play but just doesn't get enough of it consistently at senior level. A bit too outside.

 

[HBF]

We need to give him a cotract

Thats a great idea.

 

[HBF]

These training reports are fantastic. Great effort guys.

 

[SBYM]

- Jesus....JGM hair is shocking,It's like someone took a shave to the sides of Sticks' SBYM mullet but didn't touch the rest....some really good spoils

Amazing report, TD7, but I'll have you know that's a classic look!!!

 

[katmanblue]

Have heard from Jed this week that it’s his role

Jed's or willo's?

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[katmanblue]

...but still no love for the Plow

Thats because he has become so solid and dependable. Injuries permitting i reckon you could (fairly) safely pencil him in for 18 solid games, 2 meh games, 1 standout and 1 stinker for this year.

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[Soapy V]

Have heard from Jed this week that it’s his role

You mean Jed Lamb on a HBF? What a great idea. Who would have thought?

 

[smashbox gill]

Jack Silvagni has been super impressive in matches so far for someone as young as he has been and in a largely malfunctioning forward line. Contributes in lots of ways. To have 30 games into him so far is a great effort by him and the club.

It will take a good un to pinch his spot imo. Keeper.

I completely agree. He is still so young, while he might not be the most athletic I think his football smarts and intensity will see him become a good player.

 

[smashbox gill]

This. I can't really think of a current successful player who plays like him. Players who play a similar role seem to be elite runners or powerful. Two things JSOS clearly lacks.
My hope for him is that he can play a similar role as Hird did during his days playing forward. They have similar attributes

I'd say he's similar to Gunstan

 

[smashbox gill]

The speed thing with JSOS seems to be a common theme but is he really that slow? His old man never looked quick but always seemed to find a yard when needed and I think Jack is similar. Granted he does not have 'elite' speed but I think he has a good burst and evasiveness (and smarts to put himself in good spots) that might see him through. Guess he didn't test at the combine so comparison is hard. I really hope he makes it because I think he brings something a bit different to the forward line.

I think he is faster than people give him credit for. Seen him numerous times since his debut run defenders down and get holding the ball

 

[sosos]

In my opinion, sosos will end up as a defender. Though I know we look pretty well covered there at the moment.

 

[Soapy V]

In my opinion, sosos will end up as a defender. Though I know we look pretty well covered there at the moment.

Agree

 

[Soapy V]

Sorry everyone, slept in, kids to school, late to work etc, so now I'm here I can concentrate on training report.

Arrived at the Twin ovals Kingston for the first time as ground is only a few years old and I'm not a follower of the local side. What a surface!! Like a bowling green, and really big, so I spoke with a local Kingborough Tigers Administrator who informed me the dimensions were the same as the G.

The conditions:
Beautiful evening with sun in my face, worried about getting burnt....not supposed to be like this in Tassie at 7pm.
Boys ran out onto the track and what was immediately noticeable was the tans...everywhere....even pasty old Kruze had browned up a treat. All looked fit, no-one stood out as having a Dean Rioli turtle diet this pre-season.

Athletes can be dumb
Their GPS's and vests were all lined up on one sid of the fence and some ran out onto the ground without them and had to come back. Now CHarles, Charlie, Prince, The Franchise, Kouta Mk2....when you are the future star of the club, you don't jump the wire fence with footy boots on, to land on slippery concrete when the @#$%!@ open gate is 3mtrs to your right....god I had visions of Dane Rampe last year!!!

Initial Observations:
My first live and up close look at these lads so some initial observations:
- SPS: man he is little but he has that special look about him, I swear even running out through the race no-one could get within a 2 foot of touching him.
- Garlett is really wirey strong
- Fish looks noticeably stronger through the arms and legs - nice
- Kruz looked very fit
- HeyZeus Patty Cripps is enormous, what a chunk of man flesh!!
- Paddy Dow - looks 12yo, a bit slight up top but really solid core and legs - the Danger comparisons (in terms of build) I've read from other posters ring true - lets hope his footy progresses the same
- JGM - could possibly be THE worst haircut I've seen, I tried to get a photo but struggled to get a good one with the sun. It's like the dusty haircut from last year but grown more - he's gone full Daniel Boone on top - damn thing looked like a pelt...anyway I suppose it's one way to get noticed.
- TDK - really slight but looks like a good athlete - a fair way off playing
- Scheuy was really slight of build but more on him later

Training Drills
Immediately noticeable that Bolton is in full command - small groups, targeting specific skills, lots of carrot, not much stick, but he moves from group to group and you will do it his way or you repeat until correct, and he even coached the coaches, at one point educating Davenport whilst he was running a drill on how the drill should be done and then taking over himself. So to 2 specific drills and what I saw:
Drill 1:
drill aimed at making an under pressure kick (on both sides) along the line look like you were trying to keep it in but the bounce of the ball took it out so you could try to avoid a free against. Some funny results:
- Bunsen - no idea on his left, Bolton had to keep bringing him back to show him the right way to hold the ball
- Harry, Fish, LeBois, T-Willy, TDK (do you see the common thread here) are all like me and Scott Lucas, our right legs are painted on and serve no real purpose - almost comical trying to watch them execute a "skill" kick under pressure with their right pegs opposed to a simple drill where they can mask it.
- Kennedy did both easily and has a physical presence about him just at training...nice
- Saw some players I didn't recognise, then realised Penrith, Strahan and one or two others from the Northern Blues were there too.
- Bolts was funny too - never heard Levi referred to as "Meat" before...Bolts" Lovely kick Meat...Nice"
Drill2:
AN attacking drill where a big guy led up from CHF took the mark, dished off hands to quick blokes running past and delivering quickly into fwd line to the right option - fwds were in 360 degree motion and kicker looked for the fwd on the short hit-up, the lateral move or the over the back into space. Really nice drill but exposed a few things:
- I actually like Kerridge but his kicking into the fwd line was terrible - missed 2 targets in space and scrubbed another along the ground - we don't want him playing this role
- Fisher moved beautifully but tried a bit too much sometimes with his kicking when there was a simple option, looked good though, lovely hands & touch
- Murph....silk....weighted his kicks perfectly, especially the over the back ones. If he plays more of a high HFF role this year he will cause havoc kicking into the fwd 50
- Schuey - now this guy can kick - long, short, flat, hard, soft, weighted. Not sure how far he is from getting a game size and conditioning wise as he is slight but his left foot was elite
- Mullet also looked like a really good kick too into the fwd 50 - might be a wing option instead of HBF?
- Jack....really really disappointing, you can't judge a kid on 1 session but I saw - poor kicks, dropped marks, not strong enough for key fwd but not quick enough for medium fwd. I hope it was just a shocker session for him.
- Jesus....JGM hair is shocking,It's like someone took a shave to the sides of Sticks' SBYM mullet but didn't touch the rest....some really good spoils

AFL X Game Sim Session
- only went for 10-15 minutes and it was hard to get a good look as they were in the middle of the ground, other players were surrounding the field and players weren't wearing numbers, so not much to report
- lots of lefties - Mullet, FIsher, Schuey (I think) kicking was great
- Weiters looked excellent is intercept defender
- Simmo solid
- Didn't look that "X" to me

And then the Sun went down and in 10 minutes it went from a beautiful 21 to a Waverley Winter...WTF

The Game Sim
- ONly ended out going for 3 x 15ish min quarters and no time on.
- Q1 and 2 was best 22 v the Oranges
- Kerridge clearly didn't like being in the Oranges and tried to smash every opposition on baller
- Q3 was best fwds v best backs
- lots of vest swapping with the younger ones so hard to get a read o how some of them went
- SPS and Garlett didn't play and I presume the same for LOB - didn't see him after some of the initial drills
- Jabba asked who was in the Best 22 that were not in the Big Footy best 22. The answer (taking out Lang, SPS, Garlett, LOB who didn't play) was Lamb and Daisy

So to the highlights/lowlights
OK I'm just gonna get it out of the way....3 votes D Thomas...the only caveat being it is a big ground and no stands to get an elevated view so if I missed an on baller running rampant I humbly apologise but don't think I did.
- When the game started it was the Best 22 vs the rest and it was also clear that some players went back to just bombing the ball fwd to a pack rather than the drill they'd just done...I can see why Bolts picks Daisy, for all his limitations, he's smart - he moved into the space he was supposed to be in, he weighed his options, presented as a hit up HFF and did 2 kicks, whilst not blind they were long centred ones over the traffic from one HFF to the other (and there is no way he had time to see that option in congestion) to where the fwds and mids were were supposed to be streaming into...and guess what they were and got easy goals...does it translate to match day - I dunno but he's playing/training the way Bolton is drilling.
- Kennedy is a Bull, and if he is able to get to the right conditioning level following the shoulder issues then he is going to be a gem when teamed with Crippa- and also allowed Crippa to rest fwd.
- Murph looked sharp, very classy and quick. As I said above if he can play outside mid/HFF this year he will cause chaos
- Phillips stood out like Daisy, did really well at the centre taps opposed to Kruz but also went foward and kicked a couple of nice goals - 1 on the lead and another ripping snap across the body from the pocket about 35 out. NOt sure his around the ground or ground ball stuff is much but at least he looks fit and a viable option if the big fella goes down. Would I play him and Kruz...No...only if Levi is out would I play Phillips
- HArry - was in the orange team and whilst he did some nice things - his lead up/mark/ clean hands were noticeable, he simply does not have the conditioning at this point. Not sure how far away he is from full fitness but I'd be pleasantly surprised if he's a R1 starter, but he looks a player. Needs to work on the core and legs as skinny
- Fisher looked really good, again got caught a few times trying to do too much but his clean hands on the ground, one touch pick up and turn onto the left in one motions and steam fwd just oooozes class...and he did it often
- Schuey looked really nice, tried a bit too much and got caught a few times like Fish but a lot to work with and he was taking the kick outs for the Orange (2nd) team
- Didn't really notice Paddy Dow, but those fluoro oranges were hard to spot from each other
- Jack took his form from the training drills into the games - a non factor, dropped marks and a tad slow...not quite sure what to make of it
- I didn't see Patty Kerr at all despite looking for him
- And Lamb played as a HBF for a bit of the game and did some really nice kicks/switches of play, didn't notice him much apart from that
- Ooohh - and Weiters looked really good intercepting and playing CHB...really nice, classy.
- And JGM - that bonce mop is growing on me, I think I'll name it Kevin

Any questions shoot, I'd better go do some work, but will get to them later

D7, reporting from Tassie, out!!!!

 

[Jimmae]

Jack always looks like he has to take a contested mark instead of what should be an uncontested mark, I’m not sure if this is because he is slow or he’s not getting any separation due to poor leading patterns.

Jack managed 8 contested marks last year out of 90?

 

[Azzurro]

Jack managed 8 contested marks last year out of 90?

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story!

 

[AndyWalkersGirl]

Is the whole team here? Feel like there’s a few missing. Great photos of the boys’ trip to Bruny Is today. Creditvto CFC facey page

 

[TerryWallet]

Jack managed 8 contested marks last year out of 90?

Yep. Has great work ethic for the team's benefit. He works his backside off in games to get to free areas inside 50. The downside of that, while he is building to AFL fitness, was that a lot of his shots were under fatigue which hampered his accuracy.

Imo he will be a solid player who ADDS to a hopefully top team in a lot of ways. He's a contributor.

 

[Jabba73]

So taking that into account we could have something (vaguely?) resembling this:
FB: Marchbank, Jones, Weitering
HB: Simpson, Weitering, Williamson
C: Ed, Murphy, SPS
HF: Wright, Charlie, Pickett
FF: Jack, Levi, Fisher
FOL: Kreuzer, Cripps, Kennedy
INT: Cuningham, Thomas, & two of Lamb, ASOS and Dow.
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Not enough love for Plowman

 

[footyfan1978]

Bolts trying to look tall. Amusing.

 

[footyfan1978]

**** Yeah!!!

 

[CJMB]

Not enough love for Plowman

Must have lost my train of thought somewhere while writing that... there’s two Weiterings in there, reckon you can work out Plow’s spot...


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