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The one club I'd target with our 2020 R1 pick is Gold Coast.

Trade pick 19 & 2020 R1 pick for 15 & 20.

Head to the draft with 15 20 38 39 & 41

Suns still get 3 picks inside the first round this year and would head into next years draft with 3 first round picks. Much better spread for them to add talented kids to their list.

Bonus is it also jumps us ahead of Geelongs second pick and Ports 2nd & 3rd picks, meaning we're a chance of landing someone like Josh Worrell and would still be in the frame for one of Cooper Stephens or Trent Rivers at 20. We could also sit back during Wednesday night and Thursday before round 2 and see if anyone desperately wants to jump up to take a first round slider.
 
_RT_ said:
The one club I'd target with our 2020 R1 pick is Gold Coast.

Trade pick 19 & 2020 R1 pick for 15 & 20.

Head to the draft with 15 20 38 39 & 41

Suns still get 3 picks inside the first round this year and would head into next years draft with 3 first round picks. Much better spread for them to add talented kids to their list.

Bonus is it also jumps us ahead of Geelongs second pick and Ports 2nd & 3rd picks, meaning we're a chance of landing someone like Josh Worrell and would still be in the frame for one of Cooper Stephens or Trent Rivers at 20. We could also sit back during Wednesday night and Thursday before round 2 and see if anyone desperately wants to jump up to take a first round slider.
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They'd need something else coming back their way.....picks 19 and 19 for 15 and 20 doesn't compute. ;)
 
_RT_ said:
The one club I'd target with our 2020 R1 pick is Gold Coast.

Trade pick 19 & 2020 R1 pick for 15 & 20.

Head to the draft with 15 20 38 39 & 41

Suns still get 3 picks inside the first round this year and would head into next years draft with 3 first round picks. Much better spread for them to add talented kids to their list.

Bonus is it also jumps us ahead of Geelongs second pick and Ports 2nd & 3rd picks, meaning we're a chance of landing someone like Josh Worrell and would still be in the frame for one of Cooper Stephens or Trent Rivers at 20. We could also sit back during Wednesday night and Thursday before round 2 and see if anyone desperately wants to jump up to take a first round slider.
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yeah, I was thinking about 20 but not sure what combination would suit.

Don't think Gold Coast would do it but maybe even offer up another clubs pick and trade out some of our later picks.

Trick is what suits GC and other clubs?

Like I said GWS would most suit our later picks but they literally have nothing to give!!
 
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THE_GUN said:
We dont have anything to offer GC that could attract even their pick #20

Only trade i see possible id 2020 1st rounder for Geelongs pick #24
#19+#38 to North for #27+#28
#19+2020 1st rounder to GC for #15
#19+ 2020 1st rounder for Crows #22+#23
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don't think any of that works.

We might be hoping for sliders in second round and trade up from our later second round picks live in the draft
 
Dragonfire said:
Mark Chaffey like. Certainly no star
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Garbage. Chaffee was an absolute dud. Besides Hurley McGrath is the only decent back man they have. McGrath is also quicker than both players you named. McCluggage and Taranto are good but so is McGrath.
 

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Gart Buckenara Top 50
1. MATT ROWELL
178cm, 74kg, Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers, midfielder
Buckenara says: Rowell is a tough and explosive midfielder who excels at stoppages and imposes himself on games. There isn’t much separating he and teammate Noah Anderson but what sets Rowell apart is his ability to play both as an inside and outside midfielder. If you’re an inside midfielder it gives you a big tick but if you show traits of being outside as well, which Rowell does, it elevates you. They’re the traits recruiters really like. He’s got a smart football brain, he’s competitive and is a real inside beast but he’ll equally hurt you by foot on the outside because he uses the ball to the advantage of his teammates, makes good decisions, his vision to assess options is excellent and he’s got good evasive skills. He can be a real playmaker – he makes things happen.
Plays like: Lachie Neale

Stats: Disposals 24.8, contested possessions 12.0, clearances 5.3, tackles 6.0, goals 0.8, score involvements 6.5, ranking points 133

2. NOAH ANDERSON
188cm, 86kg, Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers, midfielder
Buckenara says: The son of my premiership teammate Dean Anderson, Noah shows enormous talent and is a very creative and smart midfielder. At 188cm he’s a taller midfielder with a very strong endurance base and is good overhead. He regularly kicks goals, averaging two per game in the NAB League for Oakleigh this year, and can kick them from a range of positions, whether it be a long running goal, a mark on the lead or a snap around his body. I have Rowell just ahead of him but Anderson is a more athletic midfielder who sees the game very well.
Plays like: Scott Pendlebury
Stats: Disposals 23.5, contested possessions 10.8, clearances 5.3, tackles 2.8, score involvements 4.0, ranking points 107

3. SAM FLANDERS
182cm, 81kg, Vic Country/Gippsland Power, forward/midfielder
Buckenara says: Flanders has a strong body already and has shown his best football as a forward who can also have a run in the midfield. He has a big upside because he does things on talent – eye-catching things like taking big marks, kicking freakish goals and being very clean in plucking the ball off a pack. I suspect, however, he could get himself much fitter and being in a full-time AFL environment will see him improve sharply, which is why I rate him so highly.
Plays like: Jordan De Goey
Stats: Disposals 22.5, contested possessions 10.0, clearances 4.5, tackles 6.0, score involvements 4.8, ranking points 113

4. LACHLAN ASH
186cm, 80kg, Vic Country/Murray Bushrangers, defender
Buckenara says: Ash brings real speed to this year’s draft. He’s a line-breaker off halfback who likes to take them on and put the ball under his arm. He doesn’t run blindly – he’s composed with the ball and adds plenty of excitement. The is a lot to like about Ash as he has the modern-day traits coaches love – he can be that rebound defender with good skills and in the modern game the players who can execute that 20m sideways kick to open the game up and play on with leg speed are so valuable. He’s a beautiful kick of the footy.
Plays like: Andrew McGrath
Stats: Disposals 23.0, marks 5.0, intercepts marks 1.5, intercept possessions 4.8, tackles 1.3, score involvements 5.3, ranking points 102

5. TOM GREEN
188cm, 85kg, Allies/GWS Academy, midfielder
Buckenara says: Green starred for the Allies in the U18 championships where he showed his ball-winning ability through the midfield. A bid will definitely come early for the GWS Academy prospect, which the Giants will match because he’s a big and strong inside midfielder who can bullock through traffic in a similar style to Patrick Cripps. He sets up the game from midfield. He improved his endurance this season, which has led to better numbers more consistently.
Plays like: Patrick Cripps
Stats: Disposals 23.8, contested possessions 16.3, clearances 8.0, tackles 4.3, score involvements 4.3, ranking points 111

6. CALEB SERONG
178cm, 83kg, Vic Country/Gippsland Power, small forward/midfielder
Buckenara says: A powerful small forward/midfielder, Serong can influence a game in a number of ways. He’s sharp at ground level, neat by foot and is able to set up teammates with clever ball use. He is very clever around goal as well with his uncanny goal sense. When he has time and space in the midfield his burst of speed is really exciting. Serong, who co-captained Vic Country at the carnival, surely has impressed recruiters with his consistent performances during the year but he also has big upside to develop further. He’s a natural sportsman as he’s also a very talented junior cricketer.
Plays like: Robbie Gray
Stats: Disposals 23.5, contested possessions 10.0, clearances 5.3, tackles 8.5, goals 0.8, score involvements 5.8, pressure acts 23.3, ranking points 130

7. WILL GOULD
191cm, 98kg, South Australia/Glenelg, defender
Buckenara says: Gould stepped up to play well at SANFL level where he was part of Glenelg’s premiership side. His mature frame and booming kick are features of his game. He reads the play well, gives excellent rebound from defence and has been likened to West Coast skipper Shannon Hurn because of his powerful style. He will have many admirers.
Plays like: Shannon Hurn
Stats: Disposals 21.5, marks 4.5, intercepts marks 2.0, intercept possessions 6.3, tackles 2.5, score involvements 1.3, ranking points 99

8. HAYDEN YOUNG
188cm, 82kg, Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays, defender
Buckenara says: Young looks every bit the early pick. He played in the midfield at times this year but looks most comfortable and does most of his damage across halfback where his vision, poise and precise kicking stand out. Young, whose brother Lachie plays for the Bulldogs, is a good size at 188cm, will develop into a nice third tall defender at AFL level and has already shown good signs as a player who can take intercept marks. He brings some good traits and has upside to improve.
Plays like: Brad Sheppard
Stats: Disposals 22.0, marks 5.3, intercept marks 3.3, intercept possessions 8.3, tackles 2.3, score involvements 3.3, ranking points 107

9. FISCHER MCASEY
195cm, 86kg, Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro, key defender
Buckenara says: A promising key defender who was a solid contributor throughout the under-18 championships, McAsey did some of his best work in the air by taking many contested and intercept marks. He’s very athletic for a young player of his size, has good foot skills and backs himself. He won’t be purely defensive — he’ll go for his marks when he can because he reads the ball in flight very well. When you’re looking at key position players, these are the traits recruiters love.
Plays like: Tom Barrass
Stats: Disposals 14.5, marks 6.5, tackles 3.0, intercept marks 3.8, intercept possessions 6.8, ranking points 97


10. DYLAN STEPHENS
183cm, 69kg, South Australia/Norwood, midfielder
Buckenara says: Stephens has a big engine coupled with pace and a precise left foot, which will make him one of the most talented and sought-after midfielders in this draft. He grew up in country Victoria before moving to South Australia for school and has already played for Norwood at senior level in the SANFL. His under-18 carnival form was consistent, averaging 23.5 disposals, and showed he has the traits that impress recruiters – clean hands, good skills and a big engine for today’s endurance requirements for outside runners.
Plays like: Isaac Smith
Stats: Disposals 23.5, uncontested possessions 16.0, marks 3.5, clearances 2.8, tackles 4.3, score involvements 2.5, ranking points 89

11. LIAM HENRY
179cm, 67kg, Western Australia/Claremont, small forward
Buckenara says: Fremantle will get first access to Henry as a member of its Next Generation Academy. The lightly-framed teenager is a lively small forward that has real x-factor. He had a minor knee injury that halted some of his progress but he’s shown enough already as a player who can create chaos up forward with his blistering speed. A top-10 bid is not out of the question because he’s got delightful skills and has the talent to be an excitement machine in years to come.
Plays like: Charlie Cameron
Stats: Disposals 17.5, marks 5.3, goals 0.8, score assists 2.0, score involvements 6.5, pressure acts 16.5, tackles 4.0, ranking points 93


12. JOSH WORRELL
195cm, 74kg, Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons, key defender
Buckenara says: The way Worrell is able to float into marking contests in defence and make an impact in the air should bode well at AFL level as a third tall defender. His leap and agility, plus his versatility – he played back, midfield and forward in the championships – will appeal to clubs, especially given there is a lack of taller players in this draft. Worrell is coming off a shoulder reconstruction, which will restrict his initial training and development, but he’s a nice prospect and, if well looked after, has the ability to develop into a very handy player.
Plays like: Jeremy Howe
Stats: Disposals 10.8, marks 3.8, tackles 1.8, intercept possessions 1.8, goals 1.8, score involvements 3.8, ranking points 76


13. BRODIE KEMP
192cm, 82kg, Vic Country/Bendigo Pioneers, utility
Buckenara says: Kemp ruptured his ACL late this year, which could see him be one of the sliders on draft night. If that does happen, he’d prove to be a bargain for the club that selects him. At 192cm, Kemp can play in most positions but has been used predominantly as a marking forward, as a tall midfielder who can extract the ball and across halfback where his vision stands out. He’s not a noted big ball winner, which is why his under-18 championships performances, where he averaged 20 disposals, stood out. He has plenty of upside and could have been a top-10 pick if not for his injury. He’s athletic and moves extremely well for his size.
Plays like: Marcus Bontempelli
Stats: Disposals 20.0, contested possessions 8.5, tackles 2.3, goals 0.8, score involvements 4.3, pressure acts 10.5, ranking points 102

14. FINN MAGINNESS
187cm, 80kg, Vic Metro/Sandringham Dragons, midfielder
Buckenara says: The son of my two-time Hawthorn premiership teammate Scott Maginness, Finn enjoyed a really strong season that has seen him shoot up the draft order as a father-son prospect for the Hawks. He’s a tall and athletic midfielder who uses his size to good effect, makes good decisions and uses the ball well, unlike his dad who actually took out a patent on the helicopter drop punt during his playing days (sorry mate!). He continued to improve as the season progressed, with the hard work he’s been putting in to improve his kicking paying off (although he still has some work to do) and he was also able to get to more contests which meant he won more of the footy.
Plays like: Andrew Gaff
Stats: Disposals 18.3, contested possessions 9.5, clearances 3.8, tackles 7.5, score involvements 5.0, ranking points 94

15. JACKSON MEAD
184cm, 83kg, South Australia/Woodville-West Torrens, midfielder
Buckenara says: A father-son prospect for Port Adelaide, Mead is the son of the club’s inaugural best and fairest winner Darren Mead. A midfielder/utility, his performances in the championships would have pleased Power recruiters with his composure and decision-making — his best traits — on show. He does need to tidy up his foot skills to reduce the number of targets he misses but he has proven to be a damaging player who can hurt opposition on the scoreboard.
Plays like: Ben Cunnington
Stats: Disposals 21.3, uncontested possessions 13.8, clearances 3.0, tackles 5.0, score involvements 4.5, goals 1.0, ranking points 106

16. DEVEN ROBERTSON
182cm, 80kg, Western Australia/Perth, midfielder/defender
Buckenara says: Robertson captained Western Australia and won the Larke Medal as the best player in the under-18 championships. The nephew of former West Coast captain Darren Glass, Robertson has really improved his athletic ability and makes things happen when he gets the ball because he’s a smart player who makes really good decisions. If there’s a knock on him, it’s his pace but, over the years, we’ve seen players make up for that by using their footy smarts.
Plays like: Mitch Duncan
Stats: Disposals 30.0, contested possessions 11.8, marks 4.3, score involvements 4.0, tackles 6.8, pressure acts 18.5, ranking points 128

17. CODY WEIGHTMAN
177cm, 73kg, Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays, small forward
Buckenara says: The speedy small forward really impressed this season and topped the goal kicking in his four under-18 championships games after finishing with nine. Weightman likes to fly for his marks, a trait in small forwards which has come to the fore in recent years, so expect some strong interest from clubs looking for this type of player. While he does play a bit taller than his stature suggests, he’s very dangerous at ground level and will apply pressure. He brings excitement and is the pick of the small forwards in this draft outside Liam Henry, who Fremantle has first access to.
Plays like: Jamie Elliott
Stats: Disposals 11.0, marks 3.5, goals 2.3, score involvements 4.5, pressure acts 10.3, tackles 2.0, ranking points 80

18. LUKE JACKSON
198cm, 94kg, Western Australia/East Fremantle, ruck
Buckenara says: Jackson is clearly the best ruckman in this draft and, given the shortage of big men, he will likely be taken much earlier by a club desperate for a developing ruck. He had a really strong season, winning All-Australian selection as the best ruckman in the under-18 championships. But, at 198cm, Jackson is undersized as a No.1 ruckman at AFL level. The club that picks him will be hoping he grows a little bit more because to be a genuine ruckman in today’s game you need to be 200cm-plus. He has good aggression and competitiveness and loves to use his body strongly in contests, including at ground level. He’s athletic but isn’t noted for his ability to go forward and take a mark despite being more than capable of plucking them around the ground. This ability could develop in time but it’s why I hope he’ll have a growth spurt to push him over 200cm.
Plays like: Ben McEvoy
Stats: Disposals 14.5, marks 2.3, hit outs 36.8, hit outs to advantage 9.5, clearances 4.5, tackles 2.8, score involvements 3.3, ranking points 110

19. WILL DAY
187cm, 70kg, South Australia/West Adelaide, defender
Buckenara says: A rebounding defender/outside midfielder with a light body at present, Day doesn’t let that stop him from being a fierce competitor. He has good athleticism and provides great impetus off half back, where he was a consistent performer for South Australia and often set his team up with his running patterns to link up attacking moves. He’s an interesting player because I believe we haven’t yet seen the best of this potentially late developer. I think he has big upside, but time will tell.
Plays like: Brodie Smith
Stats: Disposals 18.8, marks 5.0, intercept marks 1.5, intercepts possessions 7.5, tackles 1.3, ranking points 89

20. HARRISON JONES
194cm, 75kg, Vic Metro/Calder Cannons, key forward
Buckenara says: Jones elevated himself into calculations with strong performances as a key forward during the carnival. He has a light frame at present but I believe he’s capable of putting on good size and clubs will identify him as a project key-position player who has a good work ethic. He leads up well to the ball carrier, has a good pair of hands, is agile and looks comfortable in front of goal, so there is a lot to like. These types of players are hard to find, so expect strong interest in Jones, given the lack of his type in this draft.
Plays like: Tim O’Brien
Stats: Disposals 9.3, marks 3.3, tackles 2.8, goals 1.0, score involvements 4.8, ranking points 63

21. TRENT BIANCO
178, 70kg, Vic Metro/Oakleigh Chargers, defender/midfielder
Buckenara says: What is most impressive about Bianco is his ball use. It is a long-held opinion of mine that players who can kick the ball well as rebound defenders hold a very strong appeal to recruiters and Bianco definitely does that. He put himself on the radar with his performances for Vic Metro, where he averaged 18.5 disposals, and as captain of premiership side Oakleigh in the NAB League, where he had a really good finals campaign.
Plays like: Matt Suckling
Stats: Disposals 18.5, marks 4.3, tackles 3.0, intercepts marks 1.0, intercept possessions 3.3, score involvements 2.8, ranking points 99

22. THOMSON DOW
182cm, 72kg, Vic Country/Bendigo Pioneers, midfielder
Buckenara says: The younger brother of Carlton’s Paddy, Dow has taken the eye of recruiters this year. He’s different to his brother in that he plays a little bit taller and occasionally drifts forward to offer a target. Dow is lightly framed but agile and has a nice burst of speed, so he looks a good prospect who brings some nice attributes to the table. It will take some time and patience from the club that picks him to build up his light body.
Plays like: David Mackay
Stats: Disposals 12.3, contested possessions 4.8, clearances 2.5, score involvements 1.5, tackles 1.8, pressure acts 10.8, ranking points 48

23. SAM DE KONING
200cm, 85kg, Vic Country/Dandenong Stingrays, key defender/forward/ruck
Buckenara says: De Koning is like his brother, Carlton’s Tom De Koning, and will take time to fully develop and make his mark. Players like him, however, are very hard to find and although it will take time, if you can develop them, they become very valuable players to have on your list. He played as a key defender for Vic Country and looked good athletically, despite being very raw, and has also played as a forward-ruckman, which recruiters will like. Clubs looking for an athletic forward-ruck to develop will need to lock him away fairly early and be patient in developing him. He can be inconsistent but has shown signs of being a very good player. He could start his career as a defender, just to develop and get confidence.
Plays like: Harry McKay
Stats: Disposals 12.5, marks 4.8, intercept marks 3.0, intercept possessions 5.8, ranking points 61

24. ELIJAH TAYLOR
185cm, 75kg, Western Australia/Perth, forward/midfielder
Buckenara says: Taylor is an extremely talented footballer who will hopefully fulfil his true potential because his speed, skill and football nous is there for all to see. At the moment, though, he tends to play in bursts and can drop out of a game when he gets close attention from a defender. He doesn’t need much space to be dangerous and can quickly impact a game in 15 minutes. AFL is far harder, but if Taylor can work hard on his fitness, I see him as a very dangerous potential forward/midfielder because he has real brilliance and reflexes and, when you combine that with his pace, skill and football nous, it makes him a serious player to watch.
Plays like: Liam Ryan
Stats: Disposals 12.3, marks 2.5, goals 1.5, score involvements 4.5, tackles 1.0, pressure acts 11.3, ranking points 67


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Marcel Proust said:
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Why is Rowell listed at 178cm in Buckys and 180cm in Knightmares, Anderson 188cm and 191cm?

These kids are measured within an inch of their lives yet the general footy public can’t get consistent results. It’s absolutely amateur by the AFL, especially as they try turn the Draft into an event like NBA and NFL.
 
Roksman said:


If the Tom Green bid comes at pick #10, I'll take back everything I said about this fraud.

He had no idea.
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Geez...I saw a post recently where someone said something about someone elses comment....

"Your thoughts are clear and intelligent, trouble is the thoughts that are clear aren't intelligent and your thoughts that are intelligent aren't clear" Or something along those lines.

His phantom is all over the place like a mad womans shit.
 
Cal Twomey has us taking Cooper Stephens in his phantom. If not him then Rantall Bianco Jones & De Koning are in the mix. We also might be the club that bids on Maginness
 
4tune8 said:
They'd need something else coming back their way.....picks 19 and 19 for 15 and 20 doesn't compute. ;)
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They can have our 2020 R4 pick seeing as we're not trading it to the Saints.
 
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They can have our 2020 R4 pick seeing as we're not trading it to the Saints.
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We are the only team not to have traded a player in during the trade period and the subsequent de-listed trade period.

We have also not participated in any pick swaps for this or next year.

We are keeping our powder dry for a reason and I'm fascinated to know what it's for.
 
Drunken Wookie said:
I have no doubt he'd be better under our development system but as for him being a gun, I just don't see it. Has no real weapons. Small and not blessed with pace. Gets cheap touches off HB but doesn't do any damage with them. For a number one draft pick he is very average imo. I honestly wouldn't swap him for Graham who we took like 50 picks later.
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Dons have ruined him. He was a line breaking gun at Sandy.

Also he ain’t slow, was Junior national champ at 400m and 200 hurdles in his late teens and high jump at 12-13. Athletic freak.

Roksman said:
Hearing the Hawks are right into him and may take him really early.I've been on him.

Not saying he's without his flaws, I just think he's flaws are being overblown and ignoring what he's good at. I don't think we'll go for him but I think he'll be a bargain for whoever gets him.

He'd thrive in our environment and would form a great defensive partnership with Balta for the next decade.

Gonna be an exciting and unpredictable draft night.
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maybe there is some other data out there but his combine times were appalling, bottom 5% agility, speed and endurance.

Everyone at AFL level is a good footballer and will be faster, fitter and more agile, Jack who’s only a so-so athlete would destroy him.

We constantly see non athletic guys dominate state footy and struggle with the speed and fitness required at AFL level. People compare him to Hurn, but Hurn still had a 3.04 20m which is good.

The clubs probably have preseason and mid season data on athletic traits that may show him in a better light, but without it I wouldn’t be taking him until later in the draft.
 

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