Teams 2019 My RDT Team: H&A

[go you pups]

What I'm worried about I'd westhoffs points were inflated abit last year because he was ticking and was also roving.

With 2 rucks he may drop 10-15 points as he won't be around the stoppages as much.

Not getting inside tackles and hitouts. Like what trengove did couple years ago.

Thata my worry.

Around the ground he will still do his own thing.

Fair enough, I originally thought he'd drop a little, but I'm not so sure now, if he averages say 95 then that's not too bad still and would be in the conversation as a top 6 forward still. I feel he'll outscore Lycett still who was the other option here for RF.

Goldy is my third choice ruck option, but he has a great bye round apparently

Just can he keep up with Gawn?

Alot of us are looking at him, but I just hate using trades on set and forget rucks if they're underperforming, having been burnt badly in this area most recent years aside from 2017. Westhoff appeals as a starting R2 because I can shift him forward at least and then grab the best performing ruckman for R2 via a forward rookie upgrade, I'd only need to trade Westhoff if he got injured/suspended.

 

[Tex Danger]

Fair enough, I originally thought he'd drop a little, but I'm not so sure now, if he averages say 95 then that's not too bad still and would be in the conversation as a top 6 forward still. I feel he'll outscore Lycett still who was the other option here for RF.

Goldy is my third choice ruck option, but he has a great bye round apparently

Just can he keep up with Gawn?

Alot of us are looking at him, but I just hate using trades on set and forget rucks if they're underperforming, having been burnt badly in this area most recent years aside from 2017. Westhoff appeals as a starting R2 because I can shift him forward at least and then grab the best performing ruckman for R2 via a forward rookie upgrade, I'd only need to trade Westhoff if he got injured/suspended.

Interesting thing with Westhoff is that bye round flexibility.

A Gawn Grundy combo could easily cost a donut in that bye that Hoff covers.

If hoff is say 10 points less than Gawn up to the bye that’s around 130 points, but then you could make up 90 of that in a week so only 40 down.

Assuming you then upgraded in ruck and hoff was good enough to be around top 6 forward then it’s a pretty good outcome given the $$ saved

 

[go you pups]

Interesting thing with Westhoff is that bye round flexibility.

A Gawn Grundy combo could easily cost a donut in that bye that Hoff covers.

If hoff is say 10 points less than Gawn up to the bye that’s around 130 points, but then you could make up 90 of that in a week so only 40 down.

Assuming you then upgraded in ruck and hoff was good enough to be around top 6 forward then it’s a pretty good outcome given the $$ saved

I was thinking about it like this and I won't need to make a future forced trade due to poor performance, I can just scout who the next best option is and do a traditional rookie upgrade

 

[go you pups]

That's the round 12 bye

Doesn't look too bad I think



RIP forwards and rucks in round 13

Smith, Dunkley, Boak and Westhoff and hopefully rookies will be crucial that week for coverage

Only really Lloyd, Mills, Witherden, Brayshaw and Oliver from other positions from popular starting teams who might be affected. Though I'd say we'll look at Pies and Eagles mids eventually and maybe a Crisp or Hurn down back

Round 14 bye here, hits midfield and defence moreso with Adelaide, Carlton and GWS out. Laird, Smith, Milera, Crouch x 2, Sloane, Simpson, Newman, Cripps, Walsh, Williams, Whitfield, Shaw, Cogs, Taranto, Jelly, but I think it won't be as detrimental as the week beforehand with the rucks and forwards

The Goldy/Jacobs R2 option is valid too here then upgrade to Gawn or someone on his bye if we have to

 

[Tex Danger]

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That's the round 12 bye

Doesn't look too bad I think

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RIP forwards and rucks in round 13

Smith, Dunkley, Boak and Westhoff and hopefully rookies will be crucial that week for coverage

Only really Lloyd, Mills, Witherden, Brayshaw and Oliver from other positions from popular starting teams who might be affected. Though I'd say we'll look at Pies and Eagles mids eventually and maybe a Crisp or Hurn down back

View attachment 634165 Round 14 bye here, hits midfield and defence moreso with Adelaide, Carlton and GWS out. Laird, Smith, Milera, Crouch x 2, Sloane, Simpson, Newman, Cripps, Walsh, Williams, Whitfield, Shaw, Cogs, Taranto, Jelly, but I think it won't be as detrimental as the week beforehand with the rucks and forwards

The Goldy/Jacobs R2 option is valid too here then upgrade to Gawn or someone on his bye if we have to

Ive given the byes little thought this year, especially being a bit later than in the past its harder to work in upgrades around it. Perhaps that makes it more important to plan for though (as theres going to be less trading through it potentially so a more ben spread of premiums helps). Ive just let it be though

As it stands ignoring rookies this is what I have in "keepers" plus midpricers who may (but very unlikely to) become keepers but could well be held to their bye potentially...


Def:
Rd 12: 1
Rd 13: 1
Rd 14: 0 (2 midpricers)

Mid:
Rd 12: 2
Rd 13: 0
Rd 14: 3

Ruc:
Rd 12: 0
Rd 13: 1
Rd 14: 1

Fwd:
Rd 12: 1
Rd 13: 3
Rd 14: 0

Overall:
Rd 12: 4
Rd 13: 5
Rd 14: 4 (plus 2 midpricers)

I feel that is about as well balanced as I could get to start so no reason to change things.

 

[go you pups]

Every time I take Zerrett out and chuck Shiels in my team I can pretty much fit everyone else in the team

I feel Shiels has easily 100-105 in him this year with Titchell out and be Hawthorns main ball winner, but Zerrett could go bang too

All well, I guess rookie selection next week will decide this one

 

[Bandicoot]

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If one of Balta or Drew were nailed on to play at least the first 4-6 weeks then I'd be pretty comfortable with this

No doubt I'll chop and change again though

However

I think I'm set on

My whole backline
Macrae, Coniglio, Brayshaw, Sloane, Walsh, Constable
Grundy, Bines
Danger, Heeney, Setterfield, Drew, Parker

8-9 spots that are constantly chopping and changing

The main two player X v Y though would be

Zerrett + Moore

Vs

Cousins + Menegola/Boak

Zerrett + Moore is better job security

Cousins + Menegola/Boak is potentially better onfield output though, but Cousins JS not as good as Moores

I think the js of Cousins is quite good unless he has a few consecutive shockers. I doubt that this will happen.

 

[Bandicoot]

If the game was that easy I doubt any of us would play it. All of them could falter. Williams and Smith could start to get off the chain at the start of the year and start copping tags. Hanley, need I say more. Dusty could easily deliver more of the same. Sloane prone to a tag and some very good midfielders around him to steal points. Brad Crouch has struggled with his body for the bulk of his career and where he's priced needs a very good year to improve by a 15 point average. Rocky like Dusty could easily deliver more of the same, and it doesn't seem like double digit tackle numbers are coming back to his game. Port also have a glut of inside mids, he would need to go back to his ultra accumulator role and I'm not sure that fits with Port's new fast ball movement game plan. And Cousins and Worpel could easily get Clarko'd. I think there's a reason why this list of players aren't in absolutely everyone's side.

Maybe I should just scrap my squad and start again.
I see the problem this year is that the usual GnR approach is not viable as there are nowhere near enough reliable rook options to go down that path. You're right in the sense that there is danger with many of the mid priced selections but with that can come reward as well.
I do feel comfortable with these and only time will tell whether it was the right way to go. I would have preferred more rookie options but I just don't feel comfortable with them.

 

[go you pups]

I think the js of Cousins is quite good unless he has a few consecutive shockers. I doubt that this will happen.

While I agree somewhat, I can only field him at M5 if I select him

Tried to get him at M6 and Walsh M7, it just can't be done

 

[Pea Nut]

Maybe I should just scrap my squad and start again.
I see the problem this year is that the usual GnR approach is not viable as there are nowhere near enough reliable rook options to go down that path. You're right in the sense that there is danger with many of the mid priced selections but with that can come reward as well.
I do feel comfortable with these and only time will tell whether it was the right way to go. I would have preferred more rookie options but I just don't feel comfortable with them.

As I said in my previous post, if it works then you're miles ahead. I'm not comfortable with the rooks either but I think there are enough to have some balance between GnR and all out mid price lunacy. All I was doing was providing some insight on going totally mid price madness and where it can leave you as it still seems fresh in my mind even though it was a couple of years ago. There were a couple of posters here that lost interest part way in to the season because their starting side was so far off the pace.

 

[HolyRioli]

My team as it stands at the moment - as previously covered, I'm pretty bearish on the available rookies, though there is a fair amount of value in the $200K-$300K range.

I know going all four of the mid-priced mids is a big risk, but I'm comfortable enough with the potential outcome of only 2/4 paying off to go there.

Last few decisions are:
- Billings + Darling vs Kelly + Worpel. Darling has a big start to last year, and a big JLT series. The 6-6-6 rules favouring centre clearances looks to favour him, and the Eagles should be well positioned to get their share of quick clearances.
- Libba. Could become a rookie to upgrade Roberton in the backline
- Roberton. Could become Pearce Hanley, but not likley. Could become one of Nic Newman, Luke Ryan, Jayden Short, Wayne Milera in the backline, but if he's lining up Round 1, I'll be keeping him. The heart is too dicey for him or a doctor to risk, so I'll assume he's safe and cleared to play.
- Rucks. Am considering Goldstein for the byes in Round 13, but then not sure what I'd do with the extra $100K (probably upgrade one of the mids). Think I'd prefer to just play the two best rucks and deal with that problem when it comes.

 

[DaTBird187]

like the side overall.

id have concern that Hoff will be stuck forward with Dixon missing.

You should have no concerns. Westy will be roaming the plains collecting +6s well into his 40s.

 

[Bandicoot]

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My team as it stands at the moment - as previously covered, I'm pretty bearish on the available rookies, though there is a fair amount of value in the $200K-$300K range.

I know going all four of the mid-priced mids is a big risk, but I'm comfortable enough with the potential outcome of only 2/4 paying off to go there.

Last few decisions are:
- Billings + Darling vs Kelly + Worpel. Darling has a big start to last year, and a big JLT series. The 6-6-6 rules favouring centre clearances looks to favour him, and the Eagles should be well positioned to get their share of quick clearances.
- Libba. Could become a rookie to upgrade Roberton in the backline
- Roberton. Could become Pearce Hanley, but not likley. Could become one of Nic Newman, Luke Ryan, Jayden Short, Wayne Milera in the backline, but if he's lining up Round 1, I'll be keeping him. The heart is too dicey for him or a doctor to risk, so I'll assume he's safe and cleared to play.
- Rucks. Am considering Goldstein for the byes in Round 13, but then not sure what I'd do with the extra $100K (probably upgrade one of the mids). Think I'd prefer to just play the two best rucks and deal with that problem when it comes.

Pleased to see I'm not the only one who has followed the midprice madness theme. I'm concerned about Roberton though. Feel there's just too much danger there to expect him to be there all year. I'm surprised you haven't got Worpel in your squad. His JLT seemed to indicate he will be a permanent midfield fixture this year.

 

[Bandicoot]

Here is my mid price madness (as some would say) squad.

 

[HolyRioli]

Pleased to see I'm not the only one who has followed the midprice madness theme. I'm concerned about Roberton though. Feel there's just too much danger there to expect him to be there all year. I'm surprised you haven't got Worpel in your squad. His JLT seemed to indicate he will be a permanent midfield fixture this year.

Like I said - it was Darling or Worpel, and it could well change again. Worpel, with Boak and Billings, would give me 3 byes in the forwards in round 12, which puts me back to Billings -> Kelly. Unsure which combo I want (was Worpel and Kelly yesterday haha)

 

[DaTBird187]

Here is my mid price madness (as some would say) squad.

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You'll win the cash or come last.

 

[Bandicoot]

You'll win the cash or come last.

No point in being middle ground.

 

[go you pups]

You'll win the cash or come last.

The year you won it you started with a few value premiums/breakouters in midfield

Think it was Hunter, Wines and Viney who got you out to a fast start and you were laughing

Can't remember your defence/forwards point of differences though

 

[DaTBird187]

The year you won it you started with a few value premiums/breakouters in midfield

Think it was Hunter, Wines and Viney who got you out to a fast start and you were laughing

Can't remember your defence/forwards point of differences though

I steered clear of returning injured players though (except Wells and Kerridge in the forward line who everyone had). In the backline I'm pretty sure it was Pittard and Daniel Rich.

I actually carried Rich all season.

 

[go you pups]

I steered clear of returning injured players though (except Wells and Kerridge in the forward line who everyone had). In the backline I'm pretty sure it was Pittard and Daniel Rich.

I actually carried Rich all season.

D7 for Rich? Good coverage

 

[DaTBird187]

D7 for Rich? Good coverage

Haha nope, he was still on field for the last round.

 

[go you pups]

Haha nope, he was still on field for the last round.

Wow, lol

I was 69th at like Round 18-19 that year, still in Eliminator and had Sauce and Stef spud up most weeks and no Dusty

Then Gazza got injured and the two rucks and I plummeted down to 463rd

But yeah, it's surprising how teams hold up with subpar players in some positions, bloke who won it in 2017 had Roughy the whole year for example and he was the difference last round, got like 130 that week against us (think he kicked 4 or 5)

 

[Slipps]

Im pretty happy with this structure everytime i play around with it i always end up back with this.. so here it is
I havent watched one JLT game this year so ive kind of stayed away from the hype players
Thoughts ?

 

[go you pups]

If I ditch Macrae, Moore and Zerrett, I can then squeeze in Rocky at M5, Boak at F4 and Shiels at M3

 

[Slipps]

Here is my mid price madness (as some would say) squad.

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I wouldnt be able to sleep at night with that many mid pricers haha