Teams 2019 My RDT Team: H&A
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Dusty is still a big no from me
He's still a handball receive merchant
Needs to show he can win the hardball more often and improve his mark/tackle numbers
He had it like 30 times on the weekend, but it was the type of statline that he had far too often last year with low tackle/mark numbers
I'm leaning towards both Heeney and Dunkley, but Heeney was one of my first picked. Feel his role is ok, has averaged around 90 the last two years and has a strong tackle and mark game. Should be a top 6 forward.
I disagree with pups regarding Dusty. With Lynch coming into their forward line I see him spending 95% of game time in the guts. I also feel the 6,6,6 rule is made for players like him and Danger.
I certainly expect a 105 average from him this year.
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Dusty has turned into a finisher
Others are doing the grunt work for him imo
He'll need to get it 35-40 times a week to maintain a 100+ point average, or hit the scoreboard more often than not, he'll probably go 95-100 but doubt he'll be 105+ again until he shows a willingness to mark and tackle regularly
Having been a Sam Mitchell, Matt Crouch and Lachie Neale owner over the last 3 years, 3 players who don't mark and tackle as regularly as they should when I owned them, you see scoring trends develop. These guys would get it 30 times a game but only score 80-90s because of their poor kick to handball ratios and the lack of mark/tackles. When they took a few grabs or laid a few tackles they generally tonned up, but it wasn't that often.
Dusty generally has a good kick to handball ratio but he has lost his mark and tackle game imo
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I think both Bandicoot and Pups make great points on Dusty. I certainly was burned pretty badly by Dusty last season due largely to the reasons Pups outlined so I just can't start him in RDT again.
But given his diminished price, the introduction of the new rules, and the possibility of a tweak to the Tiges's structure I'm going with him in AF. Also with Richmond playing two opening Thursday night games there is a nice little VC bonus in there too, even though I'm not really expecting to be able to take full advantage of that.
But given his diminished price, the introduction of the new rules, and the possibility of a tweak to the Tiges's structure I'm going with him in AF. Also with Richmond playing two opening Thursday night games there is a nice little VC bonus in there too, even though I'm not really expecting to be able to take full advantage of that.
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Interesting to see Moore pop up in a few teams lately. I'd had him in mind after JLT1, and then was thinking of going Roberton down to him after the heart thing.
Watched him closely in JLT2, and was still very undecided.
Pros:
- Taking a lot of kick ins.
- great mark.
- Collingwood based on JLT will be chipping it around a lot down back.
- dual position status.
Cons:
- Was playing pretty lockdown on Curnow, is he likely to do that most weeks? New 6-6-6 rules mean his type are less able to peel off as interceptors.
- It's not like moving back is a new thing for him, did it a bit last year and still scored poorly. May have learnt a bit about it with a full preseason aiming at that role though. Is an average of 60 good enough when a rookie might get close to that for 100-150k less?
- Howe is likely to be their main interceptor type.
- Very injury prone.
Obviously a risky pick whichever way you look at it. Am tossing up between him and Rozee +70k. Both give me the swing man option, and I do think Rozee will get a chance on a wing or even at HB at some stage. Probably don't want to have all of Port's rookies though.
Watched him closely in JLT2, and was still very undecided.
Pros:
- Taking a lot of kick ins.
- great mark.
- Collingwood based on JLT will be chipping it around a lot down back.
- dual position status.
Cons:
- Was playing pretty lockdown on Curnow, is he likely to do that most weeks? New 6-6-6 rules mean his type are less able to peel off as interceptors.
- It's not like moving back is a new thing for him, did it a bit last year and still scored poorly. May have learnt a bit about it with a full preseason aiming at that role though. Is an average of 60 good enough when a rookie might get close to that for 100-150k less?
- Howe is likely to be their main interceptor type.
- Very injury prone.
Obviously a risky pick whichever way you look at it. Am tossing up between him and Rozee +70k. Both give me the swing man option, and I do think Rozee will get a chance on a wing or even at HB at some stage. Probably don't want to have all of Port's rookies though.
Obviously a risky pick whichever way you look at it. Am tossing up between him and Rozee +70k. Both give me the swing man option, and I do think Rozee will get a chance on a wing or even at HB at some stage. Probably don't want to have all of Port's rookies though.[/QUOTE]
Darcy Moore??? I've had a sneaky look after the first 2 JLT's...don't mind the DPP but I think at the same time he will not generate much cash. Which is why I was looking at him because players like Collins and Rozee are somewhat similar in that regard.
Darcy Moore??? I've had a sneaky look after the first 2 JLT's...don't mind the DPP but I think at the same time he will not generate much cash. Which is why I was looking at him because players like Collins and Rozee are somewhat similar in that regard.
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It is a reflection of peoples desperation this year that a $300,000 oft injured KPD is seriously being looked at.
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Thinking along the same lines, 105 average probably puts him just outside the top 8 scores, but close enough considering the potential value. Got him sitting at M4 at the moment, have the cash to potentially upgrade him to Cripps. Think holding the cash is potentially better, so any suprise selections does cause a giant reshuffle.
At the same price, I think Sloane, Brouch and Taranto are better value.
I could very easily be wrong though (I usually am with this kind of thing)
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Sloane by a country mile due to his scoring history
I expect Taranto to start well as Ward is still out for about a month, but can he last the season? I think he'd be a ripper starting AFLF pick though. Brouch is like a poor mans Dayne Beams, scores well but has the injury prone tag over his head, if he got a proper discount I'd consider him, but he didn't, so I feel Sloane is the answer there.
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Agree with Taranto, I also have him at M5 for those reasons.
Crouch is a big risk and would need a decent discount for me to consider, think he’s potentially a trap. Crows have been secrective about his injuries in the past, seem to recall being pulled from game last minute and been out 3+ weeks.
Comparing Sloane is Interesting (has been in my side at stages)
Scoring history over the past 5 years are Dusty 97,103,107, 113, 92 vs Sloane 104, 95, 106, 107, 89.
Would even argue Dusty scoring history has been better. I know Sloane ceiling is huge, but that’s always lowered because he doesn’t handle the tags.
Could be potentially looking at a few in the first few games.
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I'm looking at Dusty purely from a role/playing style perspective here, he's done nothing to suggest he's willing to dig in and accumulate the footy/win a regular hardball, I feel he's Richmond's finisher now, not accumulator
Sloane on the other hand will go about business as usual and I expect him back around 100-105. Gibbs is Adelaides mid who will change roles where needed as he's very versatile, he had some stints forward last year for example, but he can sit out on a wing or behind the ball too, as he regularly did at Carlton under Ratten for example.
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Have had a look at overthrowing my side a bit to see what it looks like, removing Grundy for the 1st time in a long time, Walsh for the 1st time (on the logic that other lower scoring rookies may make as much cash and thats what he is there for), dropping Hanley to Ridley who looks a decent overpriced cash cow.
Leaves me with this:
35k remaining
Lloyd Sicily Smith Ridley Clark Duursam / Scrimshaw Hore
Macrae Oliver Brayshaw Crouch Merrett Crouch Butters Constable / Scott Atkins Gibbons
Gawn Jacobs / Bines
Danger Dunkley Kelly Greene Setterfield Drew / Burgess Parker
Backline obviously weak, Grundy missing but have Macrae as captain, forwards decent strength (in line with most of my other team versions)
Leaves me with this:
35k remaining
Lloyd Sicily Smith Ridley Clark Duursam / Scrimshaw Hore
Macrae Oliver Brayshaw Crouch Merrett Crouch Butters Constable / Scott Atkins Gibbons
Gawn Jacobs / Bines
Danger Dunkley Kelly Greene Setterfield Drew / Burgess Parker
Backline obviously weak, Grundy missing but have Macrae as captain, forwards decent strength (in line with most of my other team versions)
In JLT2 he's scored 95 in 65% of game time. Given his usual 90% of game time that would equate to 120. As much as I understand your logic, I'm not particularly concerned how a player scores his points as long as he scores them. I'm still convinced the new rules will suit him down to the ground as will the recruitment of Lynch.
I originally thought Moore was a viable option . He will certainly score more than what you are paying for him but I do agree with you that a 60 or so from him is not as good as a 50-60 from a rookie. I have therefore decided to pass.
I'm still totally up in the air about Sloane. I didn't originally start with him but his JLT form was so good I put him in. I'm fully aware that there is no tagging at all in JLT and we all know how well Sloane handles a tag.
With no tag, he will most likely score 120 but if he does cop a heavy one his score is more likely to go to 80. With a midfield comprising him, Gibbs & Crouch * 2, will he be the one to cop the tag or will it be one of the others?
I have currently replaced Sloane with Yeo but it could go back to Sloane and I can bank $120K to use later if need be.
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I think Sloane will be the #1 tag target for us
The hope is that with a fully fit and firing midfield that clubs choose not to tag at all most weeks. That plus that when he does get the occasional tag, his scores untagged more than compensate for it.
I dont currently have him but really like the pick. I have B Crouch though so could easily entertain a straight swap
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in AF I do, RDT I dont like to end up with many players not in that top ave bracket in each line and theres reasonable chance both are close enough to be happy with 1 at M8 but not both (both may be good enough but theres definite risk)
Ive fallen short before having "completed" sides with full premolar lines but they just aren't the top 6/8.
Last year I took the approach top only lock in top line options with premiums (expected) including when trading in unless an absolute bargain and I stormed home.
But when we talk about risk, let's look at last year.
At the start of 2018 you look at your premium options and say the top 10 (based on previous year) are:
Titch, Danger, Ablett, Zerrett, Adams, Zorko, Martin, Kelly, Duncan & Gibbs.
So how many of those finished in 2018's top 10?
Two - Titch and Gibbs. Zerrett was the only one in the next best 10 and Zorko scraped in at 29.
So, to say I'm only wanting to lock in top 6-8 players, you can't use the previous year as a true guide.
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Just reported that Daniher is set to miss up to 6 weeks with a calf injury. Does this open up a spot for Clarke or does McKernan have the spot all but sewn up ??
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McKernan was in career best form last season before doing his hammy.. he will be a lock...Clarke will be fighting for a spot with James Stewart and Mitch Brown. Clarke's ability to play ruck may put him in the front seat to get first crack early on in the season.
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Question is, if Clarke plays Rd1 do you pay the 70k to have him generating cash at R3 over the cheapest non playing Fwd/Ruck or do you save that cash?
aside from the cover while they are playing, the good thing about a playing rookie ruck is that you know that chances are you can end up just trading them down to the cheapest option when you cash them in, so rather than it being down to a 160k rookie, it will be down to a 130k rookie as your not going to be looking for the best playing option, just a cash grab. So even though Clarke is 200k, you could expect that you may get an extra 30k back in a trade over say a midfielder
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