Teams 2020 Rate My Pre-Season Team

[WaynesWorld19]

Spoiler: 2020 Official AFL Fixture

 

[Caztheconquerer]

Latest version of my side thoughts guys.

 

[Mt Isa Mustang]

Well yeah, it's why he's 383K, I cited his inconsistency. If he wasn't inconsistent he wouldn't be priced 383K. Everyone at that price has a reason they're priced that way otherwise they'd be premiums.

He's been in the AFL for 3 years and came off a broken leg in his first season and played predominantly forward until around 8 or so rounds into last season. Finally given some midfield time and he put in some excellent shifts last season.

Heaps of great signs last season. I'm not suggesting everyone pick him, but he's not a terrible pick if you want to take a mid-priced risk. He'll only get better with another uninterrupted pre-season under his belt with a clear focus on him playing midfield this season.

The forward line is a crapshoot this season past Whitfield, Walters, Martin and maybe Heeney. Simpkin is as good as any option around the 350-400K price-range in my opinion.

Yeah, don't disagree with most of that.
I think he has a lower chance of being a keeper than some others - ie. Lynch, Steven, Smith even.

His averages were similar to Jack Bowes from my team. Bowes had less really good games but less really quiet games. Not sure which is more predictive of a true break out - ie. 450-500 possessions / year

 

[FAILTOSUCCEED]

Does Worpel explode this year or will Mitchell back hurt him? He finished last year so well I’m strongly considering squeezing him as my 5th mid.

 

[vast]

Very nice side vast, only things I don’t like is 4 premo mids as it’s always the highest scoring line throughout the season and cockatoo just because of his injury history. Love how strong your drench and forward lines are though.

I only put cockatoo in because it seems theres slim pickings of rookies this year and also no decent mid pricers available in the midfield to go deeper at m5 apart from hanneberry im cold on him though. Last year we had sheed brouch rocky (lol). But im just guessing on the rookies from basic research ive done we can make better after the ps games

I could swap Gull for Oliver if I can find $700 lol

 

[GT619]

I only put cockatoo in because it seems theres slim pickings of rookies this year and also no decent mid pricers available in the midfield to go deeper at m5 apart from hanneberry im cold on him though. Last year we had sheed brouch rocky (lol). But im just guessing on the rookies from basic research ive done we can make better after the ps games

I could swap Gull for Oliver if I can find $700 lol

Rob a bank

 

[Caztheconquerer]

I only put cockatoo in because it seems theres slim pickings of rookies this year and also no decent mid pricers available in the midfield to go deeper at m5 apart from hanneberry im cold on him though. Last year we had sheed brouch rocky (lol). But im just guessing on the rookies from basic research ive done we can make better after the ps games

I could swap Gull for Oliver if I can find $700 lol

There should be some more rookies that show themselves in the marsh cup, fingers crossed. Do you have brander, could you downgrade cockatoo or Bonar to him.

 

[vast]

There should be some more rookies that show themselves in the marsh cup, fingers crossed. Do you have brander, could you downgrade cockatoo or Bonar to him.

Yeah i got brander already. Im thinking the rookies just wont be as good as last year.
We will see just a early feeling.

 

[Caztheconquerer]

Yeah i got brander already. Im thinking the rookies just wont be as good as last year.
We will see just a early feeling.

Yep I agree with you, from what I’ve seen so far it’s not looking like there’s a lot so far. We really don’t want any more like Robbie ****ing young and some of the others last year that averaged 20s and 30s

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Yeah, don't disagree with most of that.
I think he has a lower chance of being a keeper than some others - ie. Lynch, Steven, Smith even.

His averages were similar to Jack Bowes from my team. Bowes had less really good games but less really quiet games. Not sure which is more predictive of a true break out - ie. 450-500 possessions / year

Simpkin was (one of the many who were) completely lost in Brad Scott's ridiculous game plan, so like a number of others, his first third of the season was generally down. I think he even got dropped around Rd 4.

I'm bullish about his break-out prospects but I'll be honest, there's a heap of NM bias on my part because I'm excited by what I think he can do for the team.

 

[Santoz]

Does Worpel explode this year or will Mitchell back hurt him? He finished last year so well I’m strongly considering squeezing him as my 5th mid.

Do it.

If he drops his clanger count he goes 105+

 

[vanders]

 

[Spacedog]

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Not a fan of Walters or Stewart, both are overpriced for me

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Getting closer to pre pre season perfection

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

I think i should leave this because im starting to mess around too much and forgetting the lessons I was suppose to take into this year lol.

No Bonar
No Steven
No Cockatoo
Young is overpriced
Only take one of Doedee and Roberton
Houston is still a risk

 

[CrozaN]

Dunkley had a crazy good season last year, but he a must-have over Oliver? You just mentioned you 'upgraded' Oliver to Dunks, but i'd have to think they are pretty even going into season 2020 and one is $30k cheaper than the other. If you are happy with it and don't need the extra cash then disregard my question.

I'm mainly asking because in reference to your last sentence, over thinking was my downfall last year and I hate seeing others fall on their sword the same way .

If he had a full year as a mid his average would have been insane.

From midfield to end of season he averaged 128, if his first 7 rounds had those types of scores he could have averaged over 130, topping Grundy at rank 1.

I believe he will play full mid this year, has too....no need to have him forward now especially with Bruce now in and Dale establishing himself down there, plus Naughton + Shack.

Only thing is Libba will be back most likely for round 1 despite some pre season set back, does it help him or negatively impact Dunks? Either way can't see it hurting him much if at all.

Lock for me.

 

[Mt Isa Mustang]

Simpkin was (one of the many who were) completely lost in Brad Scott's ridiculous game plan, so like a number of others, his first third of the season was generally down. I think he even got dropped around Rd 4.

I'm bullish about his break-out prospects but I'll be honest, there's a heap of NM bias on my part because I'm excited by what I think he can do for the team.

What?
The last third of the season is the biggest worry for me. Under Shaw, where NM will supposedly be at their closest iteration of what we'll see this year Simpkin pulled out 1 game >20 possessions, 4 games with 15 or less possessions.
Scored >80 SuperCoach once in those 7 weeks.





Shaw's tenure (round 11 onwards) = 74.25
Scotts tenure (1-10) = 65 average

No doubt he was better under Shaw but, man, still a big reach to suggest he'll average 90+ I reckon.

 

[cybajedi]

Getting closer to pre pre season perfection

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Any chance we could see the "close to pre-season perfection" team instead of this one?

 

[vast]

No Bonar
No Steven
No Cockatoo
Young is overpriced
Only take one of Doedee and Roberton
Houston is still a risk

Which cheap rookies can I replace young and cockatoo with? Not many others seem even a chance to get a game rnd 1 and.if they do their js seems poor.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

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Which cheap rookies can I replace young and cockatoo with? Not many others seem even a chance to get a game rnd 1 and.if they do their js seems poor.

Sam Skinner forward

 

[toxic]

Which cheap rookies can I replace young and cockatoo with? Not many others seem even a chance to get a game rnd 1 and.if they do their js seems poor.

Rankin
King

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Latest version of my side thoughts guys.
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I mean at this time of the year, this side's as good as any .....of course all teams will change, as we strat to understand which Rookies are likely to get up ....that in turn will decide if we boost the DEF or FWD's

Sicily is the biggest Conundrum for me .....no i should say D1 is the biggest conundrum ....Sicily on his day can rack up good scores ...but there were 3 games in the 2nd half of last season, where he was tagged or made accountable ....he's a poor one on one player ...so how will opposition teams play Sicily this season ??

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Rankin
King

I'm in trouble if i have to pick King .....happy to have Rankine as a bench backup ....but if he plays as a small fwd in a side still struggling, his scores will be ave

 

[vast]

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Sam Skinner forward

Rankin
King

Need a mid and a defender rookie. Already have rankine. Will only pick King as a very last resort. Skinner could be a option for f8 ahead of him.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

What?
The last third of the season is the biggest worry for me. Under Shaw, where NM will supposedly be at their closest iteration of what we'll see this year Simpkin pulled out 1 game >20 possessions, 4 games with 15 or less possessions.
Scored >80 SuperCoach once in those 7 weeks.


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Shaw's tenure (round 11 onwards) = 74.25
Scotts tenure (1-10) = 65 average

No doubt he was better under Shaw but, man, still a big reach to suggest he'll average 90+ I reckon.

I'm not sure what is the point of this post. My first statement was that he struggled more under Scott. You react with "What?", then proceed to post stats that support the statement.

We've already discussed in this thread his 2019 inconsistency and average - it explains his price - so not sure what you're adding by re-iterating it.

My second point was me literally acknowledging a heap of North bias driving my expectation. So, yeah, a big reach. Did you need me to use that term, instead of bias?

 

[Schulzenfest]

If you think Hayden Young at 180k is overpriced then you're not very good at this game.