List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Targets

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Six clubs but really zero clubs.

He picked the worst time ever to get sprung with adult Wizz Fizz. I doubt any of the clubs are offering anything meaningful over what Port had on the table. I'd wager that Port's offer would still work out better once cost of living is factored in.
 

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We need to think about the future if you want to know what the club is thinking:

2020 players out of contract

Boyd Woodcock
Brad Ebert
Cameron Sutcliffe
Jake Patmore
Jarrod Lienert
Martin Fredrick
Sam Mayes
Trent Burgoyne

2021 players out of contract

Hamish Hartlett
Robbie Gray
Steven Motlop
Tom Rockliff
Riley Bonner
Kane Farrell
Sam Hayes
Miles Bergman
Mitch Georgiades
Dylan Williams
Jackson Mead
Joel Garner

Port definitely has a plan with their list management of younger players. The standard match payment is $5k, but for players that have yet to debut it's $4k (unless they've played more than 5 games in the previous season...as soon as they've played 5 games they are considered a senior player by the AFL).

Since you're allowed to bank salary cap savings over the previous three years, that means that over the journey we have added $300k just through this policy alone. Expect Bergman, Williams and Mead to get at least 4 games each next year, while Georgiades will find it harder to get games, to keep this cycle ticking over. Jones and Schofield won't play until 2022.

We've got the cash to get more than just Crouch.
 
Seems incredibly unlike Tredrea to announce that we're no longer in the race if it's not true

Tredder’s doesn’t write the news, he just reads it. It’s posturing from all involved. Player and manager want more, club won’t budge so they try and play it out in the media until a middle ground is settled.


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We need to think about the future if you want to know what the club is thinking:

2020 players out of contract

Boyd Woodcock
Brad Ebert
Cameron Sutcliffe
Jake Patmore
Jarrod Lienert
Martin Fredrick
Sam Mayes
Trent Burgoyne

2021 players out of contract

Hamish Hartlett
Robbie Gray
Steven Motlop
Tom Rockliff
Riley Bonner
Kane Farrell
Sam Hayes
Miles Bergman
Mitch Georgiades
Dylan Williams
Jackson Mead
Joel Garner

Port definitely has a plan with their list management of younger players. The standard match payment is $5k, but for players that have yet to debut it's $4k (unless they've played more than 5 games in the previous season...as soon as they've played 5 games they are considered a senior player by the AFL).

Since you're allowed to bank salary cap savings over the previous three years, that means that over the journey we have added $300k just through this policy alone. Expect Bergman, Williams and Mead to get at least 4 games each next year, while Georgiades will find it harder to get games, to keep this cycle ticking over. Jones and Schofield won't play until 2022.

We've got the cash to get more than just Crouch.
Lienert signed on for next season i thought I read somewhere
 
I watched the showdown from earlier this yr and granted we smashed them but brad was pathetic.
Also watched his highlights from 2019 his BaF yr still not alot to get excited about and add to this he only plays 50 per cent of games .
Also likes the nose beers so wouldn't be getting into a bidding war.
In fairness he’s not exactly a highlights player. I’m sure Rocky’s highlights package over the last few months also isn’t exciting.

Geez i hope we're still in the race. We've heard we have cap to spend for years now on a big fish. Crouch may not be the gigantic fish we'd love, but he'd be a solid get that fits our list profile and need perfectly. We must be trying to bring him in and the only reason we should be pulling out must be because something else is in the pipeline.
It does feel like we are up to something. As you said we’ve been hearing about salary cap space for a while and you’d imagine that’s true given we’ve traded out Wingard, Polec and Howard. Then we seemingly have no interest in Fantasia who we were keen on last year, didn’t put up much fight for Hately, and are only prepared to low ball Crouch.

Add to that Georgiades, Jones, Bergman, Williams and Mead are all top draft picks that could quite easily force themselves into our best 22 next year. If we are chasing someone it probably needs to be an A grader to be worth while.
 
Six clubs but really zero clubs.

He picked the worst time ever to get sprung with adult Wizz Fizz. I doubt any of the clubs are offering anything meaningful over what Port had on the table. I'd wager that Port's offer would still work out better once cost of living is factored in.
you wouldnt want to live in Victoria atthe moment where you cant go 5 km from your home, would you accept any amount of money to live in a communist state? it would have to be a lot
 
I'm not completely convinced that full rebuild is always the best way to go unless its like Hawthorn and you get freebies that take you up the ladder fast.
For every successful rebuild there is a Carlton or Gold Coast.

Yeah - I think it depends on the club. It wasn’t right for us, due to financial reasons mostly. We would have struggled if we had bottomed out for another period. We also by not bottoming out were able to attract players - Charlie, Paddy and then some free agents, building our list capital.

In SA, industry can’t offer the extra $$ incentives too outside of contracts as much as the big clubs in Vic, like Geelong, Essendon, etc.

I think for Essendon, because money is not an issue, bottoming out, and possibly securing priority picks is ok. They have shown they can attract players, even when they were drug cheats and sold out half their list. Their current culture is shot. They are not winning a flag in the next 5 years, so they will sit mid table. Even if they get say 3 free agents in the next 5, I still don’t think they have the list to challenge.


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Im completely content to just wait and see. Doesn't really feel like a big deal either way and we know this is one area the club excels.
Right on. This is stress free eating popcorn.gif o'clock. Capable hands are looking after this one.
 
Tredder’s doesn’t write the news, he just reads it. It’s posturing from all involved. Player and manager want more, club won’t budge so they try and play it out in the media until a middle ground is settled.


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Tredrea has had the reliable inside word numerous times in the past. The club trusts him and gives him the scoop.
 
In fairness he’s not exactly a highlights player. I’m sure Rocky’s highlights package over the last few months also isn’t exciting.


It does feel like we are up to something. As you said we’ve been hearing about salary cap space for a while and you’d imagine that’s true given we’ve traded out Wingard, Polec and Howard. Then we seemingly have no interest in Fantasia who we were keen on last year, didn’t put up much fight for Hately, and are only prepared to low ball Crouch.

Add to that Georgiades, Jones, Bergman, Williams and Mead are all top draft picks that could quite easily force themselves into our best 22 next year. If we are chasing someone it probably needs to be an A grader to be worth while.

Jeremy Cameron? :cool:
 
Brad's management: There are six clubs after Brad!!!1!1!!1

Tredrea: Port has no interest in Brad

Somewhere in between lies the truth
 
It does feel like we are up to something. As you said we’ve been hearing about salary cap space for a while and you’d imagine that’s true given we’ve traded out Wingard, Polec and Howard. Then we seemingly have no interest in Fantasia who we were keen on last year, didn’t put up much fight for Hately, and are only prepared to low ball Crouch.

Add to that Georgiades, Jones, Bergman, Williams and Mead are all top draft picks that could quite easily force themselves into our best 22 next year. If we are chasing someone it probably needs to be an A grader to be worth while.
Could we be eyeing a big free agent next year?

Adelaide – Matt Crouch, Rory Laird, Brodie Smith
Brisbane – Dayne Zorko
Carlton – Patrick Cripps
Collingwood – Jamie Elliott
Essendon – Orazio Fantasia, Zach Merrett
Geelong – Jake Kolodjashnij, Joel Selwood
Hawthorn – Luke Breust
Gold Coast – Sean Lemmens
Greater Western Sydney – Matt Buntine, Josh Kelly
Melbourne – Max Gawn, Christian Salem
North Melbourne – Luke McDonald, Trent Dumont, Jack Ziebell
Richmond – David Astbury, Kamdyn McIntosh, Nick Vlastuin
St Kilda – Jack Billings, Luke Dunstan
Sydney – Aliir Aliir, George Hewett, Luke Parker
West Coast – Dom Sheed
Western Bulldogs – Marcus Bontempelli
 
Could we be eyeing a big free agent next year?

Adelaide – Matt Crouch, Rory Laird, Brodie Smith
Brisbane – Dayne Zorko
Carlton – Patrick Cripps
Collingwood – Jamie Elliott
Essendon – Orazio Fantasia, Zach Merrett
Geelong – Jake Kolodjashnij, Joel Selwood
Hawthorn – Luke Breust
Gold Coast – Sean Lemmens
Greater Western Sydney – Matt Buntine, Josh Kelly
Melbourne – Max Gawn, Christian Salem
North Melbourne – Luke McDonald, Trent Dumont, Jack Ziebell
Richmond – David Astbury, Kamdyn McIntosh, Nick Vlastuin
St Kilda – Jack Billings, Luke Dunstan
Sydney – Aliir Aliir, George Hewett, Luke Parker
West Coast – Dom Sheed
Western Bulldogs – Marcus Bontempelli
oraaaaaaazioooooo
 
Write up a current best 22 in 2022 and i think you can see we have a hole coming. Brad doesnt need to be a star, he needs to be a solid 2 or 3 mid behind wines.

2 years time id say motlop, ebert, gray, rockliff and maybe boak and hartlett will be gone.

Unproven younsters are bergman, williams, mead. Dont think Drew will make it.

we need a mature body to help wines. Spp i can see him doing what he is doing now and not a centre square mid.

I like the depth in the forward line, both big and small i rate, small backs depth i rate, rucks as long as hayes stay i also like.
Mids and tall backman is where we have a problem both in depth and in age. If we dont do something now we could have a massive problem in a couple years. Only takes a couple injuries or someone to not come on and we will struggle.

Crouch at 26 is the perfect free stop gap.
 
Could we be eyeing a big free agent next year?

Adelaide – Matt Crouch, Rory Laird, Brodie Smith
Brisbane – Dayne Zorko
Carlton – Patrick Cripps
Collingwood – Jamie Elliott
Essendon – Orazio Fantasia, Zach Merrett
Geelong – Jake Kolodjashnij, Joel Selwood
Hawthorn – Luke Breust
Gold Coast – Sean Lemmens
Greater Western Sydney – Matt Buntine, Josh Kelly
Melbourne – Max Gawn, Christian Salem
North Melbourne – Luke McDonald, Trent Dumont, Jack Ziebell
Richmond – David Astbury, Kamdyn McIntosh, Nick Vlastuin
St Kilda – Jack Billings, Luke Dunstan
Sydney – Aliir Aliir, George Hewett, Luke Parker
West Coast – Dom Sheed
Western Bulldogs – Marcus Bontempelli

The Bont loves Boak after the US training camp ... Bont to port confirmed.
 
You'd better pray Smithy doesn't read this.

Imagine a forward line of Dixon, Cameron, Marshall and Georgiades hopefully after winning a flag. :tonguewink: I wouldn't give him more than 750k-800k though.

Could we be eyeing a big free agent next year?

Adelaide – Matt Crouch, Rory Laird, Brodie Smith
Brisbane – Dayne Zorko
Carlton – Patrick Cripps
Collingwood – Jamie Elliott
Essendon – Orazio Fantasia, Zach Merrett
Geelong – Jake Kolodjashnij, Joel Selwood
Hawthorn – Luke Breust
Gold Coast – Sean Lemmens
Greater Western Sydney – Matt Buntine, Josh Kelly
Melbourne – Max Gawn, Christian Salem
North Melbourne – Luke McDonald, Trent Dumont, Jack Ziebell
Richmond – David Astbury, Kamdyn McIntosh, Nick Vlastuin
St Kilda – Jack Billings, Luke Dunstan
Sydney – Aliir Aliir, George Hewett, Luke Parker
West Coast – Dom Sheed
Western Bulldogs – Marcus Bontempelli

Josh Kelly :tonguewink:
 

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