List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Targets

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What line was the joking in? The part about Cripps not showing his face anymore?

Cause the thing about Cripps saying we would get luko and rankine was a media beat up that never happened. From memory he said we would monitor them as all teams monitor players and cue outrage etc etc.

to even see port supporters float it as if fact is annoying. If we can’t even get sh*t right how the hell can we expect others not to be morons?
That’s the problem, you’re going off your memory instead actually finding the quote:


"If Lukosius and Rankine end up going to Gold Coast ... we're probably pretty happy to try to get them back in a few years' time," Cripps told AFL trade radio on Monday

you just need to chill out a bit I reckon, nothing posted on here has any bearing on reality.
 
carlton reportedly tried to split the pick, then offered it asking for a 2nd rounder coming back.

The pick 48 they settled for is a fairly nothing pick in this draft.
That pick 8 was offered directly to Dodo, so that has always been there if they wanted it, but they wanted more. Carlton also wanted a return pick which they have opted to accept at 48. You might think its a nothing pick, but it obviously has some value to them.
 

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Higgins to old man Geelong.

Their end of season trip next year....

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Whilst shorter quarters I think helped us this year and (with more games in a season) would be happy for them to continue next year, if they don't I look forward to Geelong crashing and burning late in quarters/games.
Whilst I like the sentiment, it tends to be the kids, not the experienced players who burn out towards the end of quarters.
 
That’s the problem, you’re going off your memory instead actually finding the quote:


"If Lukosius and Rankine end up going to Gold Coast ... we're probably pretty happy to try to get them back in a few years' time," Cripps told AFL trade radio on Monday

you just need to chill out a bit I reckon, nothing posted on here has any bearing on reality.

Youre literally proving my point. That’s just a list manager saying exactly what every other list manager has ever said. That list managers watch home state players and try to get them back. I have actually listened to that interview too by the way. Cripps was very clear and concise as to what he meant.

the media beat up afterwards over the top and complete bullshit.

we’ve got tonnes of supporters who have bought into bullshit because they’ve heard it repeated by port fans

port taking handouts is a classic example when in reality we’ve always been middle of the pack in the afls equalisation distribution but facts don’t stop people from repeating mis truths.

your attempt at humour was behind the Cripps going into hiding line, you presented the other part as fact.

it shouldn’t be the big deal you’ve made it out to be. I simply pointed out you’ve included a mis truth and why that’s problematic.
 
Whats a pick really worth?

Depends how many picks are added for bids and eliminated by using them to match the bid.
So using Macca19's mock draft he posted in page 2 of the Bidding on Lachie Jones thread at post #27 and Lore's up to date picks spreadsheet on the Draft and Trading board. (yes she has typed Aliir incorrectly against Richmond and not Port but the picks are accurate).


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This is a guude/guess without picking up the generated pick from surplus points and all the adjusted positions.

Pick 2 - Ugle-Hagan WB eliminate 14, 41 and 54
Pick 7 - Campbell Syd eliminate 25, 58 and 62
Pick 8 - Jones..... Port eliminate 29, 35 and 47
Pick 14 - McInnes Coll have to use 16
Pick 17 - Edwards Adel eliminate 22
Pick 20 - Davies GC eliminate 27
Pick 24 - Downie Haw have to use 24
Pick 26 - Walker Freo eliminate 32
Pick 27 - Gulden Syd have to go into deficit
Pick 29 - Borlase Adel have to eliminate 40
Pick 32 - Western Freo eliminate 55
Pick 36 - Brand... Ess eliminate 45
Pick 39 - Schofield Port eliminate 57

So if we have to trade out 29
add in 2,7,8,14,17,20,24,26, 27, 29 ie 10 picks added in
eliminated 14, 25, 22, 27,.............. ie 4 picks eliminated
so 29 effectively becomes 35.
 
Can clubs swap picks all the way up until (and during) the National Draft?

something like that. During the draft and from memory leading up to it I think there’s a window to trade.

not sure why we would wait. It’s not going to increase in value between now and then. I would move pick 35 now. It’s wasted on a jones bid.
 
Whats a pick really worth?

Depends how many picks are added for bids and eliminated by using them to match the bid.
So using Macca19's mock draft he posted in page 2 of the Bidding on Lachie Jones thread at post #27 and Lore's up to date picks spreadsheet on the Draft and Trading board. (yes she has typed Aliir incorrectly against Richmond and not Port but the picks are accurate).


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This is a guude/guess without picking up the generated pick from surplus points and all the adjusted positions.

Pick 2 - Ugle-Hagan WB eliminate 14, 41 and 54
Pick 7 - Campbell Syd eliminate 25, 58 and 62
Pick 8 - Jones..... Port eliminate 29, 35 and 47
Pick 14 - McInnes Coll have to use 16
Pick 17 - Edwards Adel eliminate 22
Pick 20 - Davies GC eliminate 27
Pick 24 - Downie Haw have to use 24
Pick 26 - Walker Freo eliminate 32
Pick 27 - Gulden Syd have to go into deficit
Pick 29 - Borlase Adel have to eliminate 40
Pick 32 - Western Freo eliminate 55
Pick 36 - Brand... Ess eliminate 45
Pick 39 - Schofield Port eliminate 57

So if we have to trade out 29
add in 2,7,8,14,17,20,24,26, 27, 29 ie 10 picks added in
eliminated 14, 25, 22, 27,.............. ie 4 picks eliminated
so 29 effectively becomes 35.
Macca included Davies as a guide to his draft range I believe but Davies will be listed to gcs outside the draft.
 
Can clubs swap picks all the way up until (and during) the National Draft?

Last year clubs could trade picks up to 5 days before the National draft, then during the draft.

I don't think the AFL has confirmed the pick-only trade dates this year.
 

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Last year clubs could trade picks up to 5 days before the National draft, then during the draft.

I don't think the AFL has confirmed the pick-only trade dates this year.

They did say on trade radio the other day. I think it was up til 3-5 days before the draft.
 
Lol, Sydney wasted no time moving our future 2nd rounder to West Coast.
We were never getting Allir without them getting Hickey. The other day I expected this to be a 3 club trade deal, but we got away with only having to give up 1 pick and not a series of minor picks across the 3 clubs. But I forgot about the Buddy salary cap pressure issue, so we got away with a straight forward deal.
 
Bombers brought in Saad for a 2018 second round pick (35), and traded him for the 2020 pick 8 (becomes pick 11-12) 3 years later.

While the first round of 2018 was strong the second seems to drop off quite a bit. Saad did pick up a couple back to back top 5 finishes in Essendon's B&F but even so that's some decent trading.

Gold Coast and Carlton
 
Meh..they do that every year. Too lazy to develop young ones, just pinch them from other clubs once they have matured a bit and show promise.
Busllshit. Most clubs have between 6-9 players traded in to the club from elsewhere in their best 22.

Look at us - Dixon, Rockliff, Motlop, Burton, Mckenzie, Lycett and Ebert all played in the PF.

And Wells is smart at finding mature aged players from state leagues or guys like Tom Stewart who was plyaing in a Geelong metro league, who have been ignored by all clubs.
 
What line was the joking in? The part about Cripps not showing his face anymore?

Cause the thing about Cripps saying we would get luko and rankine was a media beat up that never happened. From memory he said we would monitor them as all teams monitor players and cue outrage etc etc.

to even see port supporters float it as if fact is annoying. If we can’t even get sh*t right how the hell can we expect others not to be morons?
Everyone forgets silvagni said it and cripps just agreed as well.

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