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Hawks shouldn't be tempted with Richmond's startegy if we will pay Overs.
Richmond is open to trading its No.15 pick for a superior draft hand as the Tigers prepare to capitalise on draft night chaos with five picks to help replace premiership stars.
The Tigers will back in their draft order with coach Damien Hardwick giving the list team their head while in America on a fact-finding mission that includes more study in Boston.
Richmond is mindful of having lost three key position players in recent months and will hope to replace them by drafting the stars of the future with selections 7, 15, 26, 27, 28.
While the Tigers look set to keep pick seven - which will drift back to pick nine after father-son bids - recruiting boss Matthew Clarke said Richmond was open to trading pick 15.
If rival clubs are keen to get up the order the Tigers would be prepared to swap pick 15 with a later pick in the teens as long as the compensation was adequate.
Richmond is open to only taking four picks as they eye stockpiling more selections in a 2022 national draft already laden with key position stocks.
The Tigers are on the hunt to find a replacement’s for their premiership stars.
The Tigers are likely to secure one of intercepting defender Josh Gibcus, Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward, East Perth key position forward Jye Amiss or Vic Country midfielder Ben Hobbs with the first pick.
Richmond’s welter of early picks means the Tigers can consider their list priorities or trade some of their later picks to ultimately improve their draft strategy.
“We have talked about moving up from pick seven but given our rankings we think we have some really strong options who will get through to us. Potentially some clubs with picks in the 20s are keen on our pick 15 and we would be reluctant to give it up unless there was a good offer. But if we could get back into pick 19 or 20 the player we select might not be much different.
“So if someone really wanted pick 15 we could get a future first and potentially flick something back to them later in the draft.
“We are definitely mindful of those key position types. We have lost David Astbury, Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman Jones. But five picks gives us nice flexibility. If there are good players available with our rankings we could use all five picks and if clubs come hard we might get something good for next year.
Clarke said the club believed key defenders Ben Miller and “Biggy” Nyuon could make an impact next year but made clear it was dangerous to select on needs and ignore players with superior talent when taking top 10 picks.
“There will be some players we like. We are just sticking to our ranking. We want to be true to our rankings, we will come up with an order. We are pretty comfortable with where we sit. There will be some good players as there will be right through to 30, we are pretty confident we will get a good player.”
Richmond has always drafted for talent and traded for needs, so is aware if it can secure another selection in next year’s draft it could help restock the club’s midfield with another experienced player through the 2022 trade period.
Richmond is open to trading its No.15 pick for a superior draft hand as the Tigers prepare to capitalise on draft night chaos with five picks to help replace premiership stars.
The Tigers will back in their draft order with coach Damien Hardwick giving the list team their head while in America on a fact-finding mission that includes more study in Boston.
Richmond is mindful of having lost three key position players in recent months and will hope to replace them by drafting the stars of the future with selections 7, 15, 26, 27, 28.
While the Tigers look set to keep pick seven - which will drift back to pick nine after father-son bids - recruiting boss Matthew Clarke said Richmond was open to trading pick 15.
If rival clubs are keen to get up the order the Tigers would be prepared to swap pick 15 with a later pick in the teens as long as the compensation was adequate.
Richmond is open to only taking four picks as they eye stockpiling more selections in a 2022 national draft already laden with key position stocks.
The Tigers are on the hunt to find a replacement’s for their premiership stars.
The Tigers are likely to secure one of intercepting defender Josh Gibcus, Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward, East Perth key position forward Jye Amiss or Vic Country midfielder Ben Hobbs with the first pick.
Richmond’s welter of early picks means the Tigers can consider their list priorities or trade some of their later picks to ultimately improve their draft strategy.
“We have talked about moving up from pick seven but given our rankings we think we have some really strong options who will get through to us. Potentially some clubs with picks in the 20s are keen on our pick 15 and we would be reluctant to give it up unless there was a good offer. But if we could get back into pick 19 or 20 the player we select might not be much different.
“So if someone really wanted pick 15 we could get a future first and potentially flick something back to them later in the draft.
“We are definitely mindful of those key position types. We have lost David Astbury, Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman Jones. But five picks gives us nice flexibility. If there are good players available with our rankings we could use all five picks and if clubs come hard we might get something good for next year.
Clarke said the club believed key defenders Ben Miller and “Biggy” Nyuon could make an impact next year but made clear it was dangerous to select on needs and ignore players with superior talent when taking top 10 picks.
“There will be some players we like. We are just sticking to our ranking. We want to be true to our rankings, we will come up with an order. We are pretty comfortable with where we sit. There will be some good players as there will be right through to 30, we are pretty confident we will get a good player.”
Richmond has always drafted for talent and traded for needs, so is aware if it can secure another selection in next year’s draft it could help restock the club’s midfield with another experienced player through the 2022 trade period.
Mini poster challenge
News.com.au puts horne daicos darcy callaghan as certain top 4
The next six as
Mac Andrew, Josh Rachele, Josh Ward, Jye Amiss, Josh Gibcus and Neil Erasmus
Nominate your player to slide up into the top 10
News.com.au puts horne daicos darcy callaghan as certain top 4
The next six as
Mac Andrew, Josh Rachele, Josh Ward, Jye Amiss, Josh Gibcus and Neil Erasmus
Nominate your player to slide up into the top 10
Hawks shouldn't be tempted with Richmond's startegy if we will pay Overs.
Richmond is open to trading its No.15 pick for a superior draft hand as the Tigers prepare to capitalise on draft night chaos with five picks to help replace premiership stars.
The Tigers will back in their draft order with coach Damien Hardwick giving the list team their head while in America on a fact-finding mission that includes more study in Boston.
Richmond is mindful of having lost three key position players in recent months and will hope to replace them by drafting the stars of the future with selections 7, 15, 26, 27, 28.
While the Tigers look set to keep pick seven - which will drift back to pick nine after father-son bids - recruiting boss Matthew Clarke said Richmond was open to trading pick 15.
If rival clubs are keen to get up the order the Tigers would be prepared to swap pick 15 with a later pick in the teens as long as the compensation was adequate.
Richmond is open to only taking four picks as they eye stockpiling more selections in a 2022 national draft already laden with key position stocks.
The Tigers are on the hunt to find a replacement’s for their premiership stars.
The Tigers are likely to secure one of intercepting defender Josh Gibcus, Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward, East Perth key position forward Jye Amiss or Vic Country midfielder Ben Hobbs with the first pick.
Richmond’s welter of early picks means the Tigers can consider their list priorities or trade some of their later picks to ultimately improve their draft strategy.
“We have talked about moving up from pick seven but given our rankings we think we have some really strong options who will get through to us. Potentially some clubs with picks in the 20s are keen on our pick 15 and we would be reluctant to give it up unless there was a good offer. But if we could get back into pick 19 or 20 the player we select might not be much different.
“So if someone really wanted pick 15 we could get a future first and potentially flick something back to them later in the draft.
“We are definitely mindful of those key position types. We have lost David Astbury, Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman Jones. But five picks gives us nice flexibility. If there are good players available with our rankings we could use all five picks and if clubs come hard we might get something good for next year.
Clarke said the club believed key defenders Ben Miller and “Biggy” Nyuon could make an impact next year but made clear it was dangerous to select on needs and ignore players with superior talent when taking top 10 picks.
“There will be some players we like. We are just sticking to our ranking. We want to be true to our rankings, we will come up with an order. We are pretty comfortable with where we sit. There will be some good players as there will be right through to 30, we are pretty confident we will get a good player.”
Richmond has always drafted for talent and traded for needs, so is aware if it can secure another selection in next year’s draft it could help restock the club’s midfield with another experienced player through the 2022 trade period.
Clarko and Dimma are close but neither will be at the draft for Hawks and Tigers. Clarko was similarly absent for Hawks 2018 draft
Wanganeen-Milera will be Top 10 in my opinion
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Knowing fox footy they'll milk it as always.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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I’d think Hobbs and Johnson are very likely to be top 10.
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Nasiah Wanganeen Milera is exactly the type of player we need. Best kick in the draft. Silky smooth. Composure. Good size. Polish and Xfactor galore. Is he a chance for us at pick 5 (7)? Could we trade up for him at the giants 13? He’s all class.
He won’t be there at 13.
My order of preference who would be realistically available
Andrew
Nwm
Ward
Gibcus.
If Rachele is available then him before the above. Match winner and going to be a powerful mid sized forward with stints in the middle.
Iceman!
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I wouldn't rule it out i think NWM has a pretty large draft range, could see him going top 10 or slipping out towards 13-15
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One move I would love to see the Hawks make is to trade down with either Richmond or Freo for an extra 2nd rounder. The guy I really like is Erasmus. He is an elite sportsman, still only 17 and a tall goal kicking midfielder with awesome hands. Just looks like a genuine football talent.
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Hawks shouldn't be tempted with Richmond's startegy if we will pay Overs.
Richmond is open to trading its No.15 pick for a superior draft hand as the Tigers prepare to capitalise on draft night chaos with five picks to help replace premiership stars.
The Tigers will back in their draft order with coach Damien Hardwick giving the list team their head while in America on a fact-finding mission that includes more study in Boston.
Richmond is mindful of having lost three key position players in recent months and will hope to replace them by drafting the stars of the future with selections 7, 15, 26, 27, 28.
While the Tigers look set to keep pick seven - which will drift back to pick nine after father-son bids - recruiting boss Matthew Clarke said Richmond was open to trading pick 15.
If rival clubs are keen to get up the order the Tigers would be prepared to swap pick 15 with a later pick in the teens as long as the compensation was adequate.
Richmond is open to only taking four picks as they eye stockpiling more selections in a 2022 national draft already laden with key position stocks.
The Tigers are on the hunt to find a replacement’s for their premiership stars.
The Tigers are likely to secure one of intercepting defender Josh Gibcus, Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward, East Perth key position forward Jye Amiss or Vic Country midfielder Ben Hobbs with the first pick.
Richmond’s welter of early picks means the Tigers can consider their list priorities or trade some of their later picks to ultimately improve their draft strategy.
“We have talked about moving up from pick seven but given our rankings we think we have some really strong options who will get through to us. Potentially some clubs with picks in the 20s are keen on our pick 15 and we would be reluctant to give it up unless there was a good offer. But if we could get back into pick 19 or 20 the player we select might not be much different.
“So if someone really wanted pick 15 we could get a future first and potentially flick something back to them later in the draft.
“We are definitely mindful of those key position types. We have lost David Astbury, Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman Jones. But five picks gives us nice flexibility. If there are good players available with our rankings we could use all five picks and if clubs come hard we might get something good for next year.
Clarke said the club believed key defenders Ben Miller and “Biggy” Nyuon could make an impact next year but made clear it was dangerous to select on needs and ignore players with superior talent when taking top 10 picks.
“There will be some players we like. We are just sticking to our ranking. We want to be true to our rankings, we will come up with an order. We are pretty comfortable with where we sit. There will be some good players as there will be right through to 30, we are pretty confident we will get a good player.”
Richmond has always drafted for talent and traded for needs, so is aware if it can secure another selection in next year’s draft it could help restock the club’s midfield with another experienced player through the 2022 trade period.
Id be surprised if Richmond trade up unless it's pick 2.
7 (nine) seems a decent spot
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Maybe looking too much into things here, but I do wonder where this info about our late interest in Bazzo has come from.
I think perhaps we are going to trade down and pick up Gibcus with our 1st. The Bazzo talk has been released to throw a few clubs.
I think perhaps we are going to trade down and pick up Gibcus with our 1st. The Bazzo talk has been released to throw a few clubs.
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Don’t think we can trade down and still get him, reckon Richmond are a chance to take him if still availableMaybe looking too much into things here, but I do wonder where this info about our late interest in Bazzo has come from.
I think perhaps we are going to trade down and pick up Gibcus with our 1st. The Bazzo talk has been released to throw a few clubs.
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Maybe looking too much into things here, but I do wonder where this info about our late interest in Bazzo has come from.
I think perhaps we are going to trade down and pick up Gibcus with our 1st. The Bazzo talk has been released to throw a few clubs.
Plus it seems to be a general consensus that we choosing between Ward, Johnson and Hobbs. In typical Hawthorn fashion it could mean all signs point to somebody outside those 3.
Hoping it doesn't happen but won't be surprised at this point if we take Gibcus.
Desperately hope we manage to trade back into the first round to take the highest rated midfielder we can if that happens.
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Agree. Ward or Nasiah Wanganeen Milera at 7 (5). I really like the NWM for his size and polish which is what we are sorely missing. Ward a safer pick. But we are screaming for some X factor and elite kicking and NWM is exactly that.
Everyone is copying Twomey's top 6.
Giants not bidding on Daicos is a piss take. Wonder if its done in "good faith" because they have Collingwood's first pick to prevent embarrassment for the Pies.
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As an aside, how good is the Aussie jumper. Pity we don’t get to play anyone outside the Irish
agreed, don’t think the list has clear holes position wise, but we need to revisit the ‘must be excellent kicks’ imperative. We have holes all over the ground there
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Happy draft day guys!!!
Assuming Cal's Top 6 is on the money. Then my order of preference is:
Johnson (really love his combination of speed, height, class and ball use. Everything our midfield needs)
Ward
NAS
Can't lose with our first pick, as long as it's not another Billy Hartung or Kieran Lovell
Pick 21 I'm hoping for Sam Butler or Tyler Sonsie (if either still available, but unlikely though)
Then with pick 24 (26) Rhett Bazzo would be great to get add another tall defender to our list. Isn't an immediate need, but something for the future
Assuming Cal's Top 6 is on the money. Then my order of preference is:
Johnson (really love his combination of speed, height, class and ball use. Everything our midfield needs)
Ward
NAS
Can't lose with our first pick, as long as it's not another Billy Hartung or Kieran Lovell
Pick 21 I'm hoping for Sam Butler or Tyler Sonsie (if either still available, but unlikely though)
Then with pick 24 (26) Rhett Bazzo would be great to get add another tall defender to our list. Isn't an immediate need, but something for the future
Ned Ryerson
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Bloody excited for tonight. Huge fan of Mark McKenzie's work and I have no reason to suspect he won't nail this one tonight. Keen to see if there's any wheeling and dealing as the night goes on. Only disappointing thing is the AFL's bizarre persistence with the two night draft thing, I am an impatient sod and I want my future Hawks' highlight reels tonight damnit!
