AFL 2021 Brownlow Medal (any results after no posting is automatic card)

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[bato]

This intrigues me, general consensus is NicNat BOG/votes but being at the ground, his influence wasn't noticed as heavily. Without the commentators pumping him up, he didn't get the votes in Trion's eyes. Happened last year as well, people had him for 10-15 votes, due to his 'big dominant games', mostly due to the commentators bigging him up, ended up only getting 5 for the whole count. In saying that, very tough game to give votes to.

The guy nearly single handedly robbed us of a top four spot. Clear standout best on ground. Not sure how the umps will vote given they're normally reluctant to give votes to ruckmen.

 

[burge13]

Sportsbet BYO - 4 man tie for the brownlow, I wonder what they'd give us haha!

They'd probably offer about $1.75 the campaigners

 

[botswana42]

They'd probably offer about $1.75 the campaigners

I think a tie (Y/N) should definetely be favourite

 

[the_big_sav]

dont know how far back it is, what was that page with all the brownlow votes and %

 

[Tigers04]

dont know how far back it is, what was that page with all the brownlow votes and %
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Found it, page 59!

 

[the_big_sav]

thanks mate

 

[BigInsideMid]

Hope I'm not a little Sandra Sully with the late news but Betfair have finished their votes;

Top 20: Looks pretty settled. Mills finishing 20th and 2 votes ahead of Brayshaw (21st). I've certainly given Macrae a few more votes and I think a few of you raised valid points as to why he polls so well.

Top 10: Once again another consistency (other than Macrae) with my votes is that there is a fair divide between the top 11 and following 9. Will be interesting to see Mererett v Parish at the end of the night, could probably go either away and I would be steering clear of Essendon most club votes.

Top 5: Would like to know if anyone has anything different but I can't argue the top 5. The order on the other hand..... Difficult to split Bont/Wines/Steele/Oliver. I'll certainly be boxing them in a first 4.

Winner: NFI hahah

 

[FootyStar#1]

Hope I'm not a little Sandra Sully with the late news but Betfair have finished their votes;

Top 20: Looks pretty settled. Mills finishing 20th and 2 votes ahead of Brayshaw (21st). I've certainly given Macrae a few more votes and I think a few of you raised valid points as to why he polls so well.

Top 10: Once again another consistency (other than Macrae) with my votes is that there is a fair divide between the top 11 and following 9. Will be interesting to see Mererett v Parish at the end of the night, could probably go either away and I would be steering clear of Essendon most club votes.

Top 5: Would like to know if anyone has anything different but I can't argue the top 5. The order on the other hand..... Difficult to split Bont/Wines/Steele/Oliver. I'll certainly be boxing them in a first 4.

Winner: NFI hahah

I'd say they've definitely overpolled McCluggage in their count and underpolled Macrae

 

[Tigers04]

I'd say they've definitely overpolled McCluggage in their count and underpolled Macrae

Mcluggage will be lucky to finish in the top 20, id have a Zorko or Gawn over him I think

 

[BigInsideMid]

Mcluggage will be lucky to finish in the top 20, id have a Zorko or Gawn over him I think

How hard is it to do the round 23 votes with your head and not your heart!!

 

[Tigers04]

How hard is it to do the round 23 votes with your head and not your heart!!

I just think Zorko and Gawn stand out more than mcluggage, not saying clug hasn’t had a good year, just smells of the menegola of last year, not a proven poller whereas Gawn and Zorko do stand out a bit more.

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

Hope I'm not a little Sandra Sully with the late news but Betfair have finished their votes;

Top 20: Looks pretty settled. Mills finishing 20th and 2 votes ahead of Brayshaw (21st). I've certainly given Macrae a few more votes and I think a few of you raised valid points as to why he polls so well.

Top 10: Once again another consistency (other than Macrae) with my votes is that there is a fair divide between the top 11 and following 9. Will be interesting to see Mererett v Parish at the end of the night, could probably go either away and I would be steering clear of Essendon most club votes.

Top 5: Would like to know if anyone has anything different but I can't argue the top 5. The order on the other hand..... Difficult to split Bont/Wines/Steele/Oliver. I'll certainly be boxing them in a first 4.

Winner: NFI hahah

How can you trust that count?

Mitchell, Miller and Walsh only 2 BOGs each all year? (Can’t read rd 23)

Righto

 

[Crownlow]

How can you trust that count?

Mitchell, Miller and Walsh only 2 BOGs each all year? (Can’t read rd 23)

Righto

Betfair has been fairly accurate in the past - 2.5 also represents a best on but no certainty.

 

[iluvparis]

Sportsbet BYO - 4 man tie for the brownlow, I wonder what they'd give us haha!

$4

 

[Crownlow]

TOP 30 based of BYB, ESPN, Sporting news and betfair:

Rank	Team	Player	Sum of Total	Sum of Min	Sum of Max
1​	Port Adelaide	Wines, Oliver	32.125​	19​	43​
2​	Melbourne	Oliver, Clayton	29.75​	20​	38​
3​	Western Bulldogs	Bontempelli, Marcus	29.75​	19​	37​
4​	ST Kilda	Steele, Jack	29.5​	19​	38​
5​	Melbourne	Petracca, Christian	25.875​	17​	38​
6​	Gold Coast	Miller, Touk	25.5​	16​	33​
7​	Carlton	Walsh, Sam	25​	17​	31​
8​	Essendon	Parish, Darcy	24.5​	21​	29​
9​	Hawthorn	Mitchell, Tom	24.25​	14​	33​
10​	Essendon	Merrett, Zachary	21.375​	12​	31​
11​	Port Adelaide	Boak, Travis	20.25​	12​	31​
12​	Adelaide	Laird, Rory	19.875​	11​	31​
13​	Brisbane	McCluggage, Hugh	18.375​	10​	27​
14​	Geelong	Guthrie, Cameron	18.25​	10​	26​
15​	Fremantle	Mundy, David	17.375​	11​	25​
16​	GWS	Kelly, Joshua	17​	11​	25​
17​	Brisbane	Lyons, Jarryd	16.75​	8​	31​
18​	Sydney	Parker, Luke	16.25​	7​	29​
19​	Western Bulldogs	Macrae, Jackson	16.25​	6​	33​
20​	Sydney	Mills, Callum	15.875​	7​	24​
21​	Brisbane	Zorko, Dayne	14.625​	8​	22​
22​	GWS	Taranto, Tim	13.375​	6​	24​
23​	North Melbourne	Cunnington, Ben	12.25​	8​	19​
24​	Richmond	Martin, Dustin	12.25​	8​	17​
25​	Collingwood	De Goey, Jordan	11.875​	5​	21​
26​	Fremantle	Brayshaw, Andrew	11.5​	6​	20​
27​	Port Adelaide	Amon, Karl	11.5​	5​	20​
28​	Melbourne	Gawn, Max	11.25​	6​	20​
29​	West Coast	Sheed, Dominic	10.75​	5​	17​
30​	Essendon	Stringer, Jake	10.625​	8​	13​

 

[Tigers04]

TOP 30 based of BYB, ESPN, Sporting news and betfair:

Rank	Team	Player	Sum of Total	Sum of Min	Sum of Max
1​	Port Adelaide	Wines, Oliver	32.125​	19​	43​
2​	Melbourne	Oliver, Clayton	29.75​	20​	38​
3​	Western Bulldogs	Bontempelli, Marcus	29.75​	19​	37​
4​	ST Kilda	Steele, Jack	29.5​	19​	38​
5​	Melbourne	Petracca, Christian	25.875​	17​	38​
6​	Gold Coast	Miller, Touk	25.5​	16​	33​
7​	Carlton	Walsh, Sam	25​	17​	31​
8​	Essendon	Parish, Darcy	24.5​	21​	29​
9​	Hawthorn	Mitchell, Tom	24.25​	14​	33​
10​	Essendon	Merrett, Zachary	21.375​	12​	31​
11​	Port Adelaide	Boak, Travis	20.25​	12​	31​
12​	Adelaide	Laird, Rory	19.875​	11​	31​
13​	Brisbane	McCluggage, Hugh	18.375​	10​	27​
14​	Geelong	Guthrie, Cameron	18.25​	10​	26​
15​	Fremantle	Mundy, David	17.375​	11​	25​
16​	GWS	Kelly, Joshua	17​	11​	25​
17​	Brisbane	Lyons, Jarryd	16.75​	8​	31​
18​	Sydney	Parker, Luke	16.25​	7​	29​
19​	Western Bulldogs	Macrae, Jackson	16.25​	6​	33​
20​	Sydney	Mills, Callum	15.875​	7​	24​
21​	Brisbane	Zorko, Dayne	14.625​	8​	22​
22​	GWS	Taranto, Tim	13.375​	6​	24​
23​	North Melbourne	Cunnington, Ben	12.25​	8​	19​
24​	Richmond	Martin, Dustin	12.25​	8​	17​
25​	Collingwood	De Goey, Jordan	11.875​	5​	21​
26​	Fremantle	Brayshaw, Andrew	11.5​	6​	20​
27​	Port Adelaide	Amon, Karl	11.5​	5​	20​
28​	Melbourne	Gawn, Max	11.25​	6​	20​
29​	West Coast	Sheed, Dominic	10.75​	5​	17​
30​	Essendon	Stringer, Jake	10.625​	8​	13​

Would be stoked if this was the final count, but there will be 1 or 2 that will blow it

 

[the_big_sav]

oh man, do we need a log in now for that site?

 

[DT_35]

Saints fans are getting their hopes up.

I have Steele on 26 votes and that was being kind and assuming that he gets some 1s and 2s in losses and I didn’t give many votes to his teammates either.

I have bont on 28, wines on 28, Oliver on 21 and petracca on 30.

Reckon there’s a chance the umps swap some of those petracca votes to Oliver in games ive given them to petracca but don’t reckon I’m out by very much.

I don’t think I’m out by much on the wines or bont calls either.

Petracca
Wines / bont
Steele
Oliver

On the night imo

Maybe because St Kilda fans watch Steele every week how many times did you watch him or do you just look at stats?

 

[philthy05]

Maybe because St Kilda fans watch Steele every week how many times did you watch him or do you just look at stats?

Both. Don’t be so touchy.

 

[DT_35]

Both. Don’t be so touchy.

Care to share what rounds you have him polling and how many?

 

[Crownlow]

oh man, do we need a log in now for that site?

Monte charlo? I think it might be updating

 

[dsmiddy07]

Yeah Monte Charlo keeps asking for a login. Better off finding the count through their twitter account: https://twitter.com/ChewTheStat

oh man, do we need a log in now for that site?

 

[jikost]

Crouch $3.20 pb to win the St Kilda count without Steele. Thought he was value last week but really like it now given he may have picked up 1 or 2 votes in the last round and Dunstan obviously didn't pick up any votes. No way Dunstan should be the $1.60 fave here.

 

[Wario6]

My count. Only have Mills on 10... Feel like I may have overpolled De Goey.

Player	Votes	Position
Ollie Wines	30​	1​
Marcus Bontempelli	29​	2​
Clayton Oliver	29​	2​
Jack Steele	27​	4​
Sam Walsh	25​	5​
Christian Petracca	25​	5​
Touk Miller	23​	7​
Zach Merrett	23​	7​
Darcy Parish	22​	9​
Travis Boak	21​	10​
Tom Mitchell	20​	11​
Rory Laird	19​	12​
Hugh McCluggage	18​	13​
Jack Macrae	18​	13​
Cam Guthrie	16​	15​
Luke Parker	16​	15​
David Mundy	16​	15​
Jarryd Lyons	15​	18​
Max Gawn	14​	19​
Jordan De Goey	14​	19​
Dustin Martin	14​	19​
Josh Kelly	14​	19​
Tim Taranto	13​	23​
Dayne Zorko	13​	23​

 

[LucasParker]

I just think Zorko and Gawn stand out more than mcluggage, not saying clug hasn’t had a good year, just smells of the menegola of last year, not a proven poller whereas Gawn and Zorko do stand out a bit more.

He is AA this year, I think mills is far more likely to be the clugga! Especially when Neale was out for so long, Clugga dominated!