Strategy 2021 Draft and Hypothetical pick trade proposals

[Strapping Young Lad]

Lol seriously can we just have a ban on posting things ol clickbait Kornes says…

none of it is interesting and it’s all designed to just stir people up.

Hodgey wants a new rule! Hodgey gets a new rule.

No more clickbait shit from Cornes in here.


Also:

Can we also threadban Rendell quotes. The bloke is senile.

Done

 

[Stratton24]

Gone

you would think it depends on Brander, if Brander goes to Carlton or Geelong we would then make an offer for Tim to stay

 

[On Topic]

What do we accept I'm exchange for TOB?

I'm having a hard time deciding what is a fair deal.

Unrestricted free agent. You'll accept his resignation letter and send him packing.

 

[danielG]

Unrestricted free agent. You'll accept his resignation letter and send him packing.

Compo likelihood ?

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Gone

You'd say so with that comment and you'd imagine Sam would have nudged him in that direction.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Hmmmmm. Depends on salary of the player doesn't it?

 

[On Topic]

Compo likelihood ?

I don't see multiple clubs clambering to get his services if he doesn't sign on. Likely a 3rd round pick which will be somewhere in the early 40's. Honestly wouldn't be a terrible outcome all things considered.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I don't see multiple clubs clambering to get his services if he doesn't sign on. Likely a 3rd round pick which will be somewhere in the early 40's. Honestly wouldn't be a terrible outcome all things considered.

It will also depend on what other players that club has leaving as FA’s themselves as they might choose to not affect the compo by trading.

 

[danielG]

I don't see multiple clubs clambering to get his services if he doesn't sign on. Likely a 3rd round pick which will be somewhere in the early 40's. Honestly wouldn't be a terrible outcome all things considered.

Would be ok with a 3rd rounder...a 2nd rounder would be a terrific result but unlikely.

 

[On Topic]

It will also depend on what other players that club has leaving as FA’s themselves as they might choose to not affect the compo by trading.

Ugh, I forget about that nuance in the free agency stuff.

 

[kenneje]

Would be ok with a 3rd rounder...a 2nd rounder would be a terrific result but unlikely.

Hawk Talk podcast have mentioned a number of times now that he is currently in our top 10 highest earners. Reckon we are in with an extremely slim chance at a second round compo.

 

[MrPremiership]

Best case: 2nd round compo
Worst case: end of 3rd round compo

 

[On Topic]

Would be ok with a 3rd rounder...a 2nd rounder would be a terrific result but unlikely.

From memory the compensation bands for a second round selection will either mirror your ladder position or be an end of round selection. I highly doubt we get an early second rounder for compensation but boy oh boy it would be a fine result.

 

[HeHateMe]

Re the TOB speculation.....

At this stage I think:
Band 5 = Pick 43
Band 4 = Pick 38
Band 3 = Pick 25
Band 2 = Pick 19
Band 1 = Pick 6

Band 3 would be a good result.

 

[Stratton24]

Hawk Talk podcast have mentioned a number of times now that he is currently in our top 10 highest earners. Reckon we are in with an extremely slim chance at a second round compo.

Tim is an unrestricted free agent - not in our top 10 paid players - it's a mistake when journos say he is restricted

 

[Billyc]

If we got an end of second rounder compo pick for TOB, we would surely take it and run.

 

[Bardo State]

Re the TOB speculation.....

At this stage I think:
Band 5 = Pick 43
Band 4 = Pick 38
Band 3 = Pick 25
Band 2 = Pick 19
Band 1 = Pick 6

Band 3 would be a good result.

ALLEGEDLY the FA bands work on the player being in the following percentiles of 25 year old+ yearly contract value, with some consideration given to player age.

Band 3 - Top 30%
Band 4 - Top 50%
Band 5 - Top 70%

I'd assume Tim would land in band 3. Not an above median salary given the market, but not in the bottom 30% either.

Second round compo seems out of the question, but who knows what the mystery box will produce.

 

[Adrian Dodoro]

picks 35+ or 40+ for TOB or Ollie wouldn't be great, but it is what it is. Just then need to package them together for something a little higher if we can.

Hope to see something good for Howe

Have you heard or do you feel as though Howe will be moved on?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Have you heard or do you feel as though Howe will be moved on?

Hope.

 

[HeHateMe]

ALLEGEDLY the FA bands work on the player being in the following percentiles of 25 year old+ yearly contract value, with some consideration given to player age.

Band 3 - Top 30%
Band 4 - Top 50%
Band 5 - Top 70%

I'd assume Tim would land in band 3. Not an above median salary given the market, but not in the bottom 30% either.

Second round compo seems out of the question, but who knows what the mystery box will produce.

Yeah absolutely it's a stupid system really (buddy *cough* *cough*)

Even if we get band 4 or 5 which are pretty much the same that pick will be useful for us as we currently don't have any picks in that range.

 

[Stratton24]

If we got an end of second rounder compo pick for TOB, we would surely take it and run.

we don't get a choice, if he decides to go we don't know what the compo is until the AFL announce it after his new contract is submitted

 

[danielG]

ALLEGEDLY the FA bands work on the player being in the following percentiles of 25 year old+ yearly contract value, with some consideration given to player age.

Band 3 - Top 30%
Band 4 - Top 50%
Band 5 - Top 70%

I'd assume Tim would land in band 3. Not an above median salary given the market, but not in the bottom 30% either.

Second round compo seems out of the question, but who knows what the mystery box will produce.

If its band 3, it will be second round...this is where finishing low works for us.
More likely a band 4 end of 2nd I'd have thought...pick 25 for TOB would be a huge win. Get another young midfield prospect through the door & gives us more flexibility than any team to move up the draft order.

 

[Blackhawk42]

A pick in the 20s for TOB would be unbelievable.

Could take 4 great young talents early this season.

Package up those picks and try and get higher.

Trade them for future first rounders with some teams we feel night struggle next year.

So many great possibilities.

 

[butlers hawks]

i would think where he has been in Hawthorns pay structure means nothing it’s how much Port would offer him. The Chol contract to Gold Coast has been reported to get them at best a second but more likely a third maybe even a fourth. That was four years at $400-$450k from memory. At the risk of upsetting people in here I can’t see them getting a pick in the 2nd round. I would of thought pick in the third would be best case scenario but wouldn’t be shocked if it was worse considering all the reporting on salary cap struggles

 

[kenneje]

i would think where he has been in Hawthorns pay structure means nothing it’s how much Port would offer him. The Chol contract to Gold Coast has been reported to get them at best a second but more likely a third maybe even a fourth. That was four years at $400-$450k from memory. At the risk of upsetting people in here I can’t see them getting a pick in the 2nd round. I would of thought pick in the third would be best case scenario but wouldn’t be shocked if it was worse considering all the reporting on salary cap struggles

No, you're exactly right. If 4 x 450 is potentially a 4th rounder, the reality is we wouldn't get close to a second round pick for TOB.

 

[Toasted]

Re the TOB speculation.....

At this stage I think:
Band 5 = Pick 43
Band 4 = Pick 38
Band 3 = Pick 25
Band 2 = Pick 19
Band 1 = Pick 6

Band 3 would be a good result.

At Band 3 I’ll help him pack