Position 2021 Midfielders

Which players will be top ten MIDs?

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Maybe Tomorrow said:
Agree with this. Neale at least 10 points over priced. Coming off the brownlow he's likely to be down on last year imo.
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Yeah but are you willing to not take Neale and cop it when he casually starts making 140s?
Obviously 2020 a big year but he was pumping out some big scores in earlier years too.
You dont want to be chasing him middle of the year and trying to come up with 300-500k for the upgrade.
 
Shinboner1 said:
Yeah but are you willing to not take Neale and cop it when he casually starts making 140s?
Obviously 2020 a big year but he was pumping out some big scores in earlier years too.
You dont want to be chasing him middle of the year and trying to come up with 300-500k for the upgrade.
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670K at his cheapest is a massive mountain to climb, possibly means you'll need 800k.

Two of your best scoring rooks also traded to get him or you could leave 100k in the bank for his price fall
I guess.

I think I'll still start him and hold off on The Gull, he seems getable at 570Kish hopefully.
 
Hai_Newman said:
670K at his cheapest is a massive mountain to climb, possibly means you'll need 800k.

Two of your best scoring rooks also traded to get him or you could leave 100k in the bank for his price fall
I guess.

I think I'll still start him and hold off on The Gull, he seems getable at 570Kish hopefully.
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The way I look at it atm I can only start the seagull or Neale. :'(
 

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Judd_Magic said:
The way I look at it atm I can only start the seagull or Neale. :'(
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Mid pricer mid that maxes out at 520K and then a 280k rook seems getable.

But if your mid pricer is scoring 95SC points this year he could be almost a keeper.

I think I'll just build my team via fallen premos and just get the few SP premos I want straight up.
 
Hai_Newman said:
Mid pricer mid that maxes out at 520K and then a 280k rook seems getable.

But if your mid pricer is scoring 95SC points this year he could be almost a keeper.

I think I'll just build my team via fallen premos and just get the few SP premos I want straight up.
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Problem is picking those campaigner mid pricers that could turn into keepers.

Rowell, Taranto, Yeo and Cunnington all are contenders but will any of them become premo mids? Are they worth the risk instead of going safe with your Neales, Olivers, Mitchells and Cripps? :think:
 
Judd_Magic said:
Problem is picking those campaigner mid pricers that could turn into keepers.

Rowell, Taranto, Yeo and Cunnington all are contenders but will any of them become premo mids? Are they worth the risk instead of going safe with your Neales, Olivers, Mitchells and Cripps? :think:
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Big fan of all 4 of these, and every one of them comes with a huge question mark.

I think all can be keepers but its their ceiling that I have issues with, 3 or 4 of them scoring 95SC points
could be problematic...plus all 4 stuck in your mids.

M8 material.
 
Hai_Newman said:
Big fan of all 4 of these, and every one of them comes with a huge question mark.

I think all can be keepers but its their ceiling that I have issues with, 3 or 4 of them scoring 95SC points
could be problematic...plus all 4 stuck in your mids.

M8 material.
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Exactly mate, I reckon all those 4 are M8's at best but I reckon Rowell could maybe end up becoming an M6 or M7 as he's a freak!
 
Hai_Newman said:
Agreed, he's the most expensive too just for the lolz. ****ing Chumpion Data campaigners!!!
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I'll keep an eye on Rowell as he's the one that interests me the most.

Have Heppell at M5 so could somehow find some cash to upgrade him to Rowell if he is flying in the pre season games.
 
I can't put Cunnington in an M8 conversation - his price looks juicy but I think he's a trap.

2019 is his highest average with a 102

he averaged about 112 in the first half of 2019 - that's his peak by a long way

he came home in the last 11 games of 2019 with a 90 average - the regular output we had seen over the previous seasons
 
TempletonTheRat said:
I can't put Cunnington in an M8 conversation - his price looks juicy but I think he's a trap.

2019 is his highest average with a 102

he averaged about 112 in the first half of 2019 - that's his peak by a long way

he came home in the last 11 games of 2019 with a 90 average - the regular output we had seen over the previous seasons
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Rowell for just a bit more cash is the way to go I reckon and more upside.
 

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Do I dare go against the SC Gods and get struck down again with their thunder and lightening by picking this kent for a 3rd year in a row? :eek:



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Hai_Newman said:
Neale doing his best Gary Piglet impersonation.
Glad I jumped on him after the lockdown restart
in round 2.
Do you think he can keep it up?
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Interesting topic.

Others say not a hope.

But I say 125+ is on the cards.

AFL statistical charts and tog% predictions are great guides (thank you Sydney Kicker ), but are not definitive. What stats don't account for is if a player has lifted another level, overall team improvement (more team SC points), and personnel changes both on and off field.

I'm starting him, and not worrying about how to get him later.
I'm not going to worry when he drops in price and his trade window opens up. What if I have pressing issues elsewhere?
Set and forget.
Premo midfielders at other clubs also played the shorter quarters, so may also feel a price drop.

Your team must also have at least 2-3 players capable of giving you huge captain scores regularly.
Neale is the competition's premier SC midfielder, and will deliver those scores for us.
In 2019 (normal quarters) he scored over 140 seven times, including a 177 and a 190, averaging 121 for the year. I would argue he's better than that now. 2019 was also his first year at Brisbane so he would be more settled, and more consistent, after two years at the club.

He's a better player now, is getting great support from teammates, has a terrific coach, and his team continues to win a large amount of games.
Despite the shorter quarters, and fewer games played, Neale had more scoring shots in 2020 than any other year in his career, further boosting his scoring potential.

So yes while he is bound to drop in price, I don't think it will be the huge amount people are hoping for.
Neale's a pig in the absolute prime of his career. He's my first picked, the hell with his pricetag. Lach him in!
Oink oink! :pignose:

(Oh and Happy New Year all!)
 
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Neale's consistency makes it hard not to start him for me. Although never impossible, the way he's played at the start of the last 2 seasons while he's fresh suggests he's unlikely to drop an actual stinker of a score that would cause his price to drop quickly. Any depreciation is most likely gradual, whilst you're almost certainly missing out on some massive scores not having him.

I think you're personally better off gambling on the other premos you want quickly dropping the 50-100k you'd ideally want Neale to drop by if you don't start him. Someone like Danger is a prime candidate here who can easily drop a 70-80 that kick starts a sudden drop.
 
Juzzomac said:
Neale's consistency makes it hard not to start him for me. Although never impossible, the way he's played at the start of the last 2 seasons while he's fresh suggests he's unlikely to drop an actual stinker of a score that would cause his price to drop quickly. Any depreciation is most likely gradual, whilst you're almost certainly missing out on some massive scores not having him.

I think you're personally better off gambling on the other premos you want quickly dropping the 50-100k you'd ideally want Neale to drop by if you don't start him. Someone like Danger is a prime candidate here who can easily drop a 70-80 that kick starts a sudden drop.
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I think the 3 non negotiables are lloyd, neale, gawn. It's a lot of money, but the teams without them are in some way or another going to be behind the leaders so you just gotta find a way
 
Juzzomac said:
Neale's consistency makes it hard not to start him for me. Although never impossible, the way he's played at the start of the last 2 seasons while he's fresh suggests he's unlikely to drop an actual stinker of a score that would cause his price to drop quickly. Any depreciation is most likely gradual, whilst you're almost certainly missing out on some massive scores not having him.

I think you're personally better off gambling on the other premos you want quickly dropping the 50-100k you'd ideally want Neale to drop by if you don't start him. Someone like Danger is a prime candidate here who can easily drop a 70-80 that kick starts a sudden drop.
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I'm not sure freshness has much to do with it. Neale was extremely lucky not to cop a hard tag early in the season last year. His 3 low scores in 2020 were a 55, 72 and 87. The 55 was at the end of the year but came sandwiched between a 151 and 142.

With Zorko now getting older and his output dropping a bit, if I was an opposition coach I'd be assigning my best stopper to sit all over Neale. Mind you I said the same thing last year and coaches let him run free. Perhaps now he's seen as a more damaging player after his Brownlow year, he might get the tagging treatment more frequently.
 
Sydney Kicker said:
I'm not sure freshness has much to do with it. Neale was extremely lucky not to cop a hard tag early in the season last year. His 3 low scores in 2020 were a 55, 72 and 87. The 55 was at the end of the year but came sandwiched between a 151 and 142.

With Zorko now getting older and his output dropping a bit, if I was an opposition coach I'd be assigning my best stopper to sit all over Neale. Mind you I said the same thing last year and coaches let him run free. Perhaps now he's seen as a more damaging player after his Brownlow year, he might get the tagging treatment more frequently.
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That Blues v Bris game in 2019 when Neale had tonned up before half time then couldn't buy a kick in the 2nd half after Ed Curnow was moved to him showed that he's very taggable. Teams just don't tag as much anymore.
 
Sydney Kicker said:
I'm not sure freshness has much to do with it. Neale was extremely lucky not to cop a hard tag early in the season last year. His 3 low scores in 2020 were a 55, 72 and 87. The 55 was at the end of the year but came sandwiched between a 151 and 142.

With Zorko now getting older and his output dropping a bit, if I was an opposition coach I'd be assigning my best stopper to sit all over Neale. Mind you I said the same thing last year and coaches let him run free. Perhaps now he's seen as a more damaging player after his Brownlow year, he might get the tagging treatment more frequently.
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Andrew Birch said:
That Blues v Bris game in 2019 when Neale had tonned up before half time then couldn't buy a kick in the 2nd half after Ed Curnow was moved to him showed that he's very taggable. Teams just don't tag as much anymore.
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Valid points, gents.

Neale was successfully tagged in a couple of games, but you could find fault with all premo mids.

In 2019, Josh Kelly, Nat Fyfe, and Jack Macrae all had 3 scores under 100, and popular 2021 pick Clayton Oliver had 7 scores under 100.
Tom Mitchell's big 2018 included 3 scores in the 70's.

Neale also had the most 140+ scores in 2019 (equal with Macrae). Tom Mitchell the most in 2018. Both start in my team for 2021.
Having regular high scores gives you more opportunity to nail a huge VC/C score.

All premo mids can have low scoring matches, whether it's a tag or a down day, but what most people forget is that owning players with the highest scoring capabilities can help you nail a huge VC/C score.

I hope that Neale's pricetag scares plenty of others away. I'd love to have his POD captain scores all to myself!
 
DERIBERATE said:
I think the 3 non negotiables are lloyd, neale, gawn. It's a lot of money, but the teams without them are in some way or another going to be behind the leaders so you just gotta find a way
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This will be my first year with Seagull. Every year I talk myself out of taking him, every year I get punished for it.
 
ArdentEagle said:
How do we feel about the Gentleman below? Down year by his standards last year BUT he can go huge.
Generally one of the better scorers.

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