Trades 2021 Round 3 Fantasy Trades

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Damn, thanks for your insight, its annoying because I need a forward less than 400k to get Hardwick in and Stepho out in the same week, and he is the clear winner in terms of average in that group. Good thing I asked
Yeah look, lots on the freo board rate him as best 22, so he may hold his spot. I'm not as sold on him though.

I just think we're going to see pretty significant changes to the freo forward line over the next month. You might be better served grabbing a rookie and pocketing the cash?
 
So Treloar attended 8/8 CBA in the 4th quarter whilst Dunkley only went to 1. Is that cause for concern?

Dusty v Dunkley?

Short term no, long term maybe. As Treloar builds fitness he's going to attend more CBA's. Probably at the expense of Bont/Dunks who both might rotate forward.
 
I'm no punting expert but it seems like some curses just never end. Here are some of my highlights from last weekend....

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I ******* already had Cripps 20+ as a leg but obviously forgot about that and added him again for 25+. Of course he doesn't get that.


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GWS just suck I guess.

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Worpel spontaneously turns into a potato. Seriously what happened to him?

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Caldwell and Shiel get injured during the game.

Too ashamed to reveal my stake amounts....

Will try your idea though, single bets on over/under fantasy points markets. Will take unders on who I trade in and overs on who I trade out.
 
Couple of forced trades over the last few weeks have left me in a hole. Looking for advice on best moves.

Im thinking one of the below but open to other options.

1) Caldwel and D Butler out for Dusty and Jordon - this gives me Jordon in Mid and Dusty up front - considering that Mid spot has been Rowell and a Caldwell the last 2 weeks I’ve been getting nothing from it anyway.

2) Caldwell and Taranto to One of Macrae, Merrett, Oliver or Bont and Jordon, but that leaves me with no real options for changes for FWD.

3) Caldwell and D Butler out for Dunkley and Jordon - this solves an issue up front but also leaves mid a bit heavy with rookies

4) Caldwell and Rankine out for Hind and Markov (via J Clark to MID) - this doesn’t get a premo but adds another piece in DEF

5) others I’ve been looking at are Serong, Laird, Fantasia, Butters (paired with a trade to add Jordon) and Highmore

current team
Def - H Young, C Daniel, L Duggan, J Clark, N Cox, Aliir

MID - Neale, Caldwel (INJ), Taranto, T Miller, R Sloane, B Smith, E Gulden, B Campbell

R - Witts, O McInerney, M Flynn (will be on field this week)

FWD - D Butler, T Hawkins, I Rankine, T Lynch, J Daniher, J Rowe

INT - Koschitzke, Cumming, collier-Dawkins, McNeil, H Jones, A Scott, C Downie
 
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To me this 'hold underperforming premos' just buys into the sunk cost fallacy. The truth is, you can still move Gaffy sideways to a premo like Dunks, Dusty, Brayshaw or Crisp (heck you could take a punt on Mcgrath or Parish with all their outs) and make some modest money.

Even if Gaff performs well, you lose money, his break even is 159. Most of those other options are making money and are all likely to churn out consistent tons. Some may not have the ceiling of Gaff but they'll make you money in the short term.

Yeah, a sideways trade may well be a 'wasted trade' but if it makes you $60k as opposed to losing $60k, I know I'd do it. Just move him on and if he performs later you can get him cheap like everyone else.

Gaff hasn't even looked capable of scoring 80.
But you don't lose the 60k unless you trade. It comes down to the ultimate question of "what is the value of a trade" which I've thought about in the past but haven't nailed it down. If you take the price of the winning team at the end of the season, minus the starting price and divide the remainder by 30, you will get a sort of "value" of a what a trade should be worth on average. The probelm is that is hindsight only, but it could be a guide by taking a look at other season. I haven't done it myself but it might be something people should consider looking back at.
 
But you don't lose the 60k unless you trade. It comes down to the ultimate question of "what is the value of a trade" which I've thought about in the past but haven't nailed it down. If you take the price of the winning team at the end of the season, minus the starting price and divide the remainder by 30, you will get a sort of "value" of a what a trade should be worth on average. The problem is that is hindsight only, but it could be a guide by taking a look at other season. I haven't done it myself but it might be something people should consider looking back at.
That's like saying you don't gain money unless you sell the player.

What you should do though is look at the 2 scenarios, where you trade Gaff and when you don't and see how they compare.

Look at what you are not losing and what you are not gaining in each scenario.
 
Surely Coll ain't that dumb surely .... oh wait its Coll oh sh*t :eek: ;)

Elliot injured injured does open a spot up but i doubt they replace a small with a tall

Yeah.. Playing all 3 of Grundy/Cameron/Cox never works... but maybe it'll work if they try once more??

It wouldn't at all surprise me, but if they do it they'll lose.
 

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But you don't lose the 60k unless you trade. It comes down to the ultimate question of "what is the value of a trade" which I've thought about in the past but haven't nailed it down. If you take the price of the winning team at the end of the season, minus the starting price and divide the remainder by 30, you will get a sort of "value" of a what a trade should be worth on average. The probelm is that is hindsight only, but it could be a guide by taking a look at other season. I haven't done it myself but it might be something people should consider looking back at.

That's actually a great idea.

It seems fantasy is quite variable looking back though.

My results:
2018 I was +$6.86M; Rank low 400's.
2019 I was + $5.06M; Rank Mid 3000's
2020 I was + $4.75M. Rank Mid 3000's

If we were to take the average high and low of that our range is ~ = $160,300 - $228,600 per trade.
However we probably make a lot of trades that are 50% higher or lower than those averages to then even out over the year.

So ~ $80k - $310k trades are happening and that evens out to be a touch under $190k per trade.

That actually really helps me on my Gaff decision. At $750k at this stage I would think a total disaster for Gaff might see him dropping down another $150k to $600k. At which point, if he turns his form around I'll want him back. So thats 2x trades for potentially $80k each and not really worth those trades.

Versus Tyson -> Lazzarro. Make $200k (tick). Plus Lazarro will make some money also (double tick).
 
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That's actually a great idea.

It seems fantasy is quite variable looking back though.

My results:
2018 I was +$6.86M; Rank low 400's.
2019 I was + $5.06M; Rank Mid 3000's
2020 I was + $4.75M. Rank Mid 3000's

If we were to take the average high and low of that our range is ~ = $160,300 - $228,600 per trade.
However we probably make a lot of trades that are 50% higher or lower than those averages to then even out over the year.

So ~ $80k - $310k trades are happening and that evens out to be a touch under $190k per trade.

That actually really helps me on my Gaff decision. At $750k at this stage I would think a total disaster for Gaff might see him dropping down another $150k to $600k. At which point, if he turns his form around I'll want him back. So thats 2x trades for potentially $80k each and not really worth those trades.

Versus Tyson -> Lazzarro. Make $200k (tick). Plus Lazarro will make some money also (double tick).
Most trades in the first 2-5 rounds are to fix mistakes and probably bring the average down e.g. Danger to Dunkley
 
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Most trades in the first 2-5 rounds are to fix mistakes and probably bring the average down e.g. Danger to Dunkley

True but wherever possible we want to maximise our cash gen early too. Sideway trading Gaff probably doesnt do that (under the assumption he does in fact return to some 100+ scores... which who knows at this point...)
 
True but wherever possible we want to maximise our cash gen early too. Sideway trading Gaff probably doesnt do that (under the assumption he does in fact return to some 100+ scores... which who knows at this point...)
Gaff will be lucky to get 90 this season. Its not a form issue with him, its a new gameplan issue. He no longer gets those easy marks out of D50. They now going to the centre square and he is no where to be seen. I think he I gonna have to change to his way before he gets anywhere close again
 
Gaff will be lucky to get 90 this season. Its not a form issue with him, its a new gameplan issue. He no longer gets those easy marks out of D50. They now going to the centre square and he is no where to be seen. I think he I gonna have to change to his way before he gets anywhere close again

Yeah the "heart to heart" between Simpson and Gaff was likely along the lines of.. you're not getting 30+ possessions a game anymore mate.. learn to live with it.
 
Or they could throw Cameron in thinking it's a cake walk and share the Grundy load.....

Mmm I doubt it, given they showed their hand last week by throwing De Goey forward to cover Elliot. My guess is, given their good win, they bring in Greenwood or Mayne to run with Neale, throw JDG forward, and keep the rest of the side pretty settled
 
How will Fullarton go solo rucking? Could we see a decent points increase?

He can't do any less than he is doing now right ? So have to be a slight increase.

His my last rookie i need to fix tempted to give it another week
 
Gaff will be lucky to get 90 this season. Its not a form issue with him, its a new gameplan issue. He no longer gets those easy marks out of D50. They now going to the centre square and he is no where to be seen. I think he I gonna have to change to his way before he gets anywhere close again
I think Stewart is losing out from this as well.
 
I think Stewart is losing out from this as well.

Alot seem to be losing out but there doesn't really appear a clear pattern of position.

More just all the players that are a bit of a seagull can't seagull as well.

Players who know how to get the footy are ok.

Lloyd/Neale/Gaff/Stewart/Haynes.. they're all that sort of player that links up in the crossover. The crossover is dead. These players are dead.
I think they'll all adapt and be ok though. Well maybe except haynes.
 
Will Phillips is finally making his debut this week. Gonna wait a week and then jump right on if he scores over a 70. Anything less, and it's not worth it at a starting price of 266K IMO

Not sure even a 70 would have me jumping on board. 80+ yep. 70 I'd wait another week and see how he goes in game 2.
$266k is so steep.
 
Will Phillips is finally making his debut this week. Gonna wait a week and then jump right on if he scores over a 70. Anything less, and it's not worth it at a starting price of 266K IMO
Hopefully this doesn't impact Lazarro's place in the side
 
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