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I’m willing to give Kosi some slack as he only moved to the forward line in Feb 2021 with no real preseason as a forward since his junior years. He’d been training as a defender, so his output was pretty decent considering.He's had 2 poor seasons, one good game. Take the 5 goal game out of 2021 and it's pretty much identical to 2022. Below average across the board.
I'd love to be proven wrong but he's poor as a first option tall, worse as a second and would need to somehow develop a tonne of forward nous to change that.
A whipping boy would be like Harry Morrison, someone who cops the blame despite playing well. Not someone who has ardent defenders despite the opposite.
I’m surprised people are talking up Lynch.
Reeves and Meek are both clearly superior ruckman and should start in round 1.
And I can’t believe Sam would consider playing Lynch at full forward in the absence of Lewis.
Playing 3 ruckman (one out of position) won’t work.
Are they really “much superior”? Given the injury interruptions it’s hard to compare recent output, and track watchers have largely said they’re all performing really well at training.
I think it might be closer than people think.
Here what you are saying, my main gripe is that many have already relegated ML to third string ruckman based off a handful of injury interrupted games in 22. Re height difference, it’s is basically negligible when comparing ML, Ramsden and MeekThis isn’t a knock on Lynch - I just think Reeves and Meek will serve the club bettter.
It helps that they’re also taller than Lynch, especially when their opponents are giants like Gawn, English, Witts and Lobb.
Reeves, Meek and Lynch are all 24 years old. Don‘t overlook the other Max who’s only 19 and also has other advantages over Lynch - he’s taller, far more athletic and has terrific ball skills. Potentially I think he’ll be the best of the 4 and that Sam will be keen to give him some game time this year.
I’d say that Meek and Reeves have the edge, but given Sams recent comments about Max‘a forward craft, we might see him get a look in. In any case I think we’ll get to see plenty of all three of them in different configurations this year.This isn’t a knock on Lynch - I just think Reeves and Meek will serve the club bettter.
It helps that they’re also taller than Lynch, especially when their opponents are giants like Gawn, English, Witts and Lobb.
Reeves, Meek and Lynch are all 24 years old. Don‘t overlook the other Max who’s only 19 and also has other advantages over Lynch - he’s taller, far more athletic and has terrific ball skills. Potentially I think he’ll be the best of the 4 and that Sam will be keen to give him some game time this year.
He's had 2 poor seasons, one good game. Take the 5 goal game out of 2021 and it's pretty much identical to 2022. Below average across the board.
I'd love to be proven wrong but he's poor as a first option tall, worse as a second and would need to somehow develop a tonne of forward nous to change that.
A whipping boy would be like Harry Morrison, someone who cops the blame despite playing well. Not someone who has ardent defenders despite the opposite.
I’m surprised people are talking up Lynch.
Reeves and Meek are both clearly superior ruckman and should start in round 1.
And I can’t believe Sam would consider playing Lynch at full forward in the absence of Lewis.
Playing 3 ruckman (one out of position) won’t work.
Reeves can give us first use, which is a huge advantage at the stoppages. I couldn't care what else he brings. We haven't had first use for a very long time.They aren't clearly superior at all.
Reeves offers no physicality and is poor around the ground. Lynch and Meek (based on limited viewing) offer much more of a physical presence and are better around the ground.
Reeves can tap the ball and seems to be a nice set-shot on goal. But he only averaged 1.4 marks per game, and for such a tall player that is a poor return. He also has averaged the least possessions, despite spending more time in the middle than Lynch in particular.
Lynch as key fwd seems pretty unrealistic. He’s not even a great mark like BB was and has barely got on the park as a ruck as it is.Reeves and Meek are clearly the 2 we'll run with, injury permitting.
It's whether Sam wants to run with Lynch as a key fwd. Some say he won't run with 3 rucks. Problem we'll have is when the ball hits the deck, he'll offer nothing defensively.
Will be an interesting 7 weeks.
Reeves can give us first use, which is a huge advantage at the stoppages. I couldn't care what else he brings. We haven't had first use for a very long time.
As good as McEvoy was around the ground, his CB tap work was bog average.
I actually think Reeves has fwd craft and is a neat shot for goal. He can easily develop this when you consider he's only played circa 20 games.Reeves simply has to develop the other areas of his game, and I'm not saying he can't or won't, but you can't make it as a limit tap-only ruckman in today's game.
Gawn - wins taps and is great around the ground
Darcy - wins taps, physical beast, and great around the ground
Grundy - wins taps and great around the ground
Goldy - wins taps and great around the ground
Nic Nat - wins taps, physical beast
Who is the last tap-only ruckman that's become one of the best in the competition? Witts? He has averages over 13 touches several times since moving to the Suns and has been dominant with winning taps.
O'Brien? He's been dominant in taps for years, but Adelaide fans have questioned his place in the side the last two seasons, and he's been dropped.
Witts is the right comparison.Reeves simply has to develop the other areas of his game, and I'm not saying he can't or won't, but you can't make it as a limit tap-only ruckman in today's game.
Gawn - wins taps and is great around the ground
Darcy - wins taps, physical beast, and great around the ground
Grundy - wins taps and great around the ground
Goldy - wins taps and great around the ground
Nic Nat - wins taps, physical beast
Who is the last tap-only ruckman that's become one of the best in the competition? Witts? He has averages over 13 touches several times since moving to the Suns and has been dominant with winning taps.
O'Brien? He's been dominant in taps for years, but Adelaide fans have questioned his place in the side the last two seasons, and he's been dropped.
As good as that Geelong quarter was he had a similar one in the first Bulldogs game. Eventually they start reading him and the Dogs dominated after half time.Injuries are never timely, but the shoulder injury that Reeves sustained against Geelong was incredibly bad timing. If he hadn’t have gone down I very much doubt we’d be having this debate over preferred ruckman. Alas, we are.
Amazing what COLA doesThat's a bloody good season!
fifyIt looks like Kosi has some issues with hiseyesconfidence as he drops way to many easy balls, especially out in front. If he can fix that up I think we have a very good player in the making.
His hands are like concrete bands. Cannot do his confidence any good, but that said, fails to get into the right spots, like good forwards do.It looks like Kosi has some issues with his eyes as he drops way to many easy balls, especially out in front. If he can fix that up I think we have a very good player in the making.
My view on this is that Reeves is still a project that is in progress. Its just that we have lacked depth in the ruck department for so long that he is having to step up to the plate sooner, and before he has properly grown into his body and developed his all round game. Ill be watching him from a young developing players perspective this season in the same way that I will be watching our other young developing mids.Reeves can give us first use, which is a huge advantage at the stoppages. I couldn't care what else he brings. We haven't had first use for a very long time.
As good as McEvoy was around the ground, his CB tap work was bog average.
Fair enough too. He's played 17 games.My view on this is that Reeves is still a project that is in progress. Its just that we have lacked depth in the ruck department for so long that he is having to step up to the plate sooner, and before he has properly grown into his body and developed his all round game. Ill be watching him from a young developing players perspective this season in the same way that I will be watching our other young developing mids.
Here what you are saying, my main gripe is that many have already relegated ML to third string ruckman based off a handful of injury inter8games in 22. Re height difference, it’s is basically negligible when comparing ML, Ramsden and Meek
There is no way in hell that at this stage you can say that Meek and Reeves are “ clearly superior “ to Lynch
Personally I rate them higher than ML ATM, but who knows what transpires this year. If he has a full preseason and good run with injuries, his ceiling could be significantly higher than we all originally thought
Same with Kozi, can’t believe how many posters have written him off. I’m guessing it’s probably the same posters who wrote off Dylan Moore early days because “he’s too slow “ to be a small forward- you know who you are.