Play Nice 2022 AFL/AFLW Crowds/TV Ratings/Stream thread

[Mick 77]

AFLW crowds are up on last season (yes, I know, a few factors at play there), so the doom and gloom is a bit over the top IMO.

I saw a few comparisons to A-League Womens crowds as well. AFLW is well ahead, around double on average.

A-League woman’s is not costing $60 mill to put on though

 

[Teen Wolf]

A-League woman’s is not costing $60 mill to put on though

Also not bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars, unlike AFLW.

 

[Mick 77]

Also not bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars, unlike AFLW.

Seriously hundreds of millions Afl should be able to pay that $600 m loan back next year !
$30 mill in wages superannuation,coaches trainers, uniforms ,flights accommodation,ground hire security,
Aflw is a financial bust funded purely funded by the soft cap money removed from coaches in the men’s game.
Wait till the men’s game come for a slice they are livid woman are earning $40000 for zero return.
Great they have free air now for crowds looks like WA have given up on it!!
Teen Wolf hundreds of millions from where please?
Also your $75 per membership is garbage!! Melbourne selling $33 membership Hawks $50 including scarf so no $5 mill in the coffers as you ridiculous suggested!!

 

[The_Wookie]

Also not bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars, unlike AFLW.

AFLW isnt earning hundreds of millions. Not even close.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Seriously hundreds of millions Afl should be able to pay that $600 m loan back next year !
$30 mill in wages superannuation,coaches trainers, uniforms ,flights accommodation,ground hire security,
Aflw is a financial bust funded purely funded by the soft cap money removed from coaches in the men’s game.
Wait till the men’s game come for a slice they are livid woman are earning $40000 for zero return.
Great they have free air now for crowds looks like WA have given up on it!!
Teen Wolf hundreds of millions from where please?
Also your $75 per membership is garbage!! Melbourne selling $33 membership Hawks $50 including scarf so no $5 mill in the coffers as you ridiculous suggested!!

It's 5:10pm local on a Friday
WTF do you expect.

 

[Teen Wolf]

Seriously hundreds of millions Afl should be able to pay that $600 m loan back next year !
$30 mill in wages superannuation,coaches trainers, uniforms ,flights accommodation,ground hire security,
Aflw is a financial bust funded purely funded by the soft cap money removed from coaches in the men’s game.
Wait till the men’s game come for a slice they are livid woman are earning $40000 for zero return.
Great they have free air now for crowds looks like WA have given up on it!!
Teen Wolf hundreds of millions from where please?
Also your $75 per membership is garbage!! Melbourne selling $33 membership Hawks $50 including scarf so no $5 mill in the coffers as you ridiculous suggested!!

Hmm maybe pay your club a visit and you'll see 40 million dollars in brand new facilities--product of the women, being used by the men. I already mentioned funding, so you shouldn't still be struggling with this.

There are also more expensive membership options than $75 btw. But it's what the vast majority sell for, and that is a definite fact (not a figure based on guesses like, say, TV ratings).

AFLW isnt earning hundreds of millions. Not even close.

It has brought in hundreds of millions of dollars, not even debatable.

 

[Mick 77]

It's 5:10pm local on a Friday
WTF do you expect.

Stop the excuses early,cold wet wrong time of year blah blah blah!!
The product is garbage have 36 M Contis playing you might have remotely something watchable !!

 

[The_Wookie]

Hmm maybe pay your club a visit and you'll see 40 million dollars in brand new facilities--product of the women, being used by the men. I already mentioned funding, so you shouldn't still be struggling with this.

There are also more expensive membership options than $75 btw. But it's what the vast majority sell for, and that is a definite fact (not a figure based on guesses like, say, TV ratings).


It has brought in hundreds of millions of dollars, not even debatable.

Its very much debatable. The entire league wont be making more than a max $50m a year in any given year - and even then thats a very generous guess.

Those Carlton facilities were never just for the women, were never just a "product of the women" and to claim otherwise is highly ingenuous.

 

[RedV3x]

The product is garbage

Just like your comments.
If something doesn't appeal to you simply don't watch it.
There are many sports that don't appeal to me but other people watch them in sufficient numbers.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Bjo187]

Was it the highest rating show of the year like last year?

 

[Teen Wolf]

Its very much debatable. The entire league wont be making more than a max $50m a year in any given year - and even then thats a very generous guess.

Those Carlton facilities were never just for the women, were never just a "product of the women" and to claim otherwise is highly ingenuous.

Of course the facilities aren't just for the women (I already said they're being used by the men), that's why football has benefitted so much from AFLW.

And I didn't say they were "just" a product of the women. But we all know why the funding has come flooding in, just as we all know why a guy like Jeff Kennett did a sudden backflip on women's football ~4 years ago.

 

[Rob]

It's 5:10pm local on a Friday
WTF do you expect.

The times they put the games on is ridiculous. They shouldn't be scared to have multiple games on at the same time. It's not like they're getting huge TV audiences, nor are TV paying anything for the rights that they can demand the whole comp revolve around them.

 

[The_Wookie]

AFL

AFL Preseason 1.089m
AFL H&A Season 106.265m
AFL Finals 19.169m
Total TV 126.524m
Total Attendance 6.752m
Attendance + TV 133.276m
Total TV Viewing Hours 316.310m

NRL

NRL Preseason 2.89m
NRL H&A Season 118.895
NRL Finals 15.552m
Total Season TV 137.338m
Total Attendace 3.441m
Total TV + Attenmdance 140.779m
Total TV Viewing hours 206.833m

Origin Series 9.393m
Rep Fixtures 2.619m
Total Rep TV 12.012m
Attendance 263,799
Attendance + TV 12.276m
Total TV Viewing Hours 18.018m

Total NRL 2022 TV 149.35m
Total NRL Attendance 3.705m
Total NRL TV & Attendance 153.055m
Total TV Viewing Hours 224.025m

 

[weewilly]

A very good summing up of the AFL V NRL GF ratings and the methodology used to collect the numbers.

Dropping the ball? What to make of the TV ratings for footy grand finals

Numbers were down for the two biggest games in Australian sport. But the picture is more complicated than that suggests.

www.theage.com.au

 

[The_Wookie]

The AFL held attention longer, with more than 2.1 million viewers sticking with the one-sided game for an hour and 40 minutes. It dropped below 2 million metro viewers only in the final quarter.

But just as Brisbane viewers had abandoned the league, so did Perth viewers bail on the AFL. From 308,000 watching in the first quarter, the audience dropped below 200,000 around half-time and below 100,000 in the final quarter.

 

[Rob]

But just as Brisbane viewers had abandoned the league, so did Perth viewers bail on the AFL. From 308,000 watching in the first quarter, the audience dropped below 200,000 around half-time and below 100,000 in the final quarter.

I did laugh at this and it doesn't surprise me....it was a genuinely nice day and people generally aren't watching TV on Saturday afternoons. So once the result was a foregone conclusion it looks like everyone switched off to do something else. Probably whatever they do normally on Saturday arvos.

 

[czns]

But just as Brisbane viewers had abandoned the league, so did Perth viewers bail on the AFL. From 308,000 watching in the first quarter, the audience dropped below 200,000 around half-time and below 100,000 in the final quarter.

Can confirm, after quarter time everyone was down at Claremont Quarter

 

[The_Wookie]

Code	Round	Date	Day	Time	Home	Away	Venue	Attendance	Capacity	%Capacity
AFLW	7	7/10	Fri	1810	St Kilda	Carlton	RSEA Park	1,234	8,000	15.43%
AFLW	7	7/10	Fri	1910	West Coast	Richmond	Mineral Resources Park	1,259	6,500	19.37%
AFLW	7	8/10	Sat	1310	Sydney	Gold Coast	Henson Park	N/A
AFLW	7	8/10	Sat	1510	Adelaide	Fremantle	Wigan Oval	2,800	10,000	28.00%
AFLW	7	8/10	Sat	1710	North Melbourne	Brisbane	Arden Street	1,644	4,000	41.10%
AFLW	7	9/10	Sat	1910	Hawthorn	Port Adelaide	Skybus Stadium	2,029	6,000	33.82%
AFLW	7	9/10	Sun	1310	Essendon	Geelong	Reid Oval	3,808	5,000	76.16%
AFLW	7	9/10	Sun	1510	Melbourne	Western Bulldogs	Casey fields	2,154	9,000	23.93%
AFLW	7	9/10	Sun	1710	Collingwood	GWS	Victoria Park	1,663	10,000	16.63%
							Total	16,591	58,500	28.36%
							Average	2,074	9,750
							Season Total	182,835	956,221	19.12%
							Season Average	2,949	15,423

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Kwality]

AFLW isnt earning hundreds of millions. Not even close.

When such claims arent supported, bin it.

 

[Kwality]

AFL

AFL Preseason 1.089m
AFL H&A Season 106.265m
AFL Finals 19.169m
Total TV 126.524m
Total Attendance 6.752m
Attendance + TV 133.276m
Total TV Viewing Hours 316.310m

NRL

NRL Preseason 2.89m
NRL H&A Season 118.895
NRL Finals 15.552m
Total Season TV 137.338m
Total Attendace 3.441m
Total TV + Attenmdance 140.779m
Total TV Viewing hours 206.833m

Origin Series 9.393m
Rep Fixtures 2.619m
Total Rep TV 12.012m
Attendance 263,799
Attendance + TV 12.276m
Total TV Viewing Hours 18.018m

Total NRL 2022 TV 149.35m
Total NRL Attendance 3.705m
Total NRL TV & Attendance 153.055m
Total TV Viewing Hours 224.025m

FTA only ?

 

[Cuzz09]

That's surprising. AFL feels on a big decline

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[le dominateur]

That's surprising. AFL feels on a big decline

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No, that’s how you feel when your team is rubbish.


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[weewilly]

Interesting development!

Sports TV rights review to put streaming services under microscope​

By James Massola​

October 11, 2022 — 5.00am

The future of sports broadcasting in Australia is under review, with laws that keep major events on free to air TV likely to be expanded to capture streaming giants such as Kayo, Stan and Amazon Prime.

Communications Minister Michelle Rowland promised before the election to review the anti-siphoning laws, which give free to air TV stations such Seven, Ten and Nine (the owner of this masthead) first option to buy the broadcast rights for major sporting events including the AFL and NRL, the summer and winter Olympics, Ashes cricket and World Cup football.

Communications Minister Michelle Rowland has begun consultations on Australia’s anti-siphoning laws, which keep culturally significant sports on free to air TV.CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES
The current anti-siphoning list is due to expire in April 2023. The sports industry, clubs and Australians have until December 6 to make submissions to the inquiry into the future of sport on TV.
The review could lead to the list of sports offered to free to air stations before some paid services being tweaked or expanded, and is likely to put streaming services into the same category as pay TV network Foxtel.

Unlike Foxtel, streaming services such as Paramount Plus and Stan (owned by Nine) are not covered by the anti-siphoning legislation, which came into force in 1994 before they existed. Seven West Media boss James Warburton recently called for legal changes to make the laws fit for purpose.

Full story here.​

Sports TV rights review to put streaming services under microscope

How and where Australians can watch major sporting events is being reviewed by the federal government.

www.smh.com.au