No Oppo Supporters 2022 General AFL Discussion

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No Oppo Supporters - 2023 General AFLW Discussion

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[LukeParkerno1]

Because I believe in a fair hearing for both sides. Haven't heard Fagan's & co's side yet.
I want the full story from all so I can complete the picture. I haven't taken a side for this reason.
Lot's seems to have been left out. It's always so touchy but I don't care for that. Fair has to be fair.

Same. I'm staying out of it won't comment till after everything has come out, and that means both sides not one side and Caro chiming in with her 2 cents as per usual.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

It's hard not to speculate and try to figure out what might have gone on given the amount of media attention it's receiving, and the serious nature of the accusations.

In saying that, I'm also conscious that those who stand accused have not had their say, but are facing public scrutiny and the potential loss of their livelihoods. Whether they're eventually found innocent or guilty, this information should not have leaked until they had an opportunity to officially respond to the claims.

However, it's hard not to think that at least some of the claims are true, and while there may be reasons for why some of that action was taken (in the minds of the accused), that in no way excuses what they've done, even if only a portion of those claims are true, it's unacceptable imo.

There's a quote by Alan Watts that has always resonated with me. He was using it in reference to the aboriginal people of Australia and the impact of white settlement in Australia.

He starts off by quoting that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". And goes on to say: "Kindly let me help you or you will drown said the monkey putting the fish safely up a tree."

It speaks to the arrogance of one person, or group of people, thinking they know what's best for another regardless of whether or not it was well-intentioned.

 

[Punts]

Scott to coach the dons

 

[SM]

Scott to coach the dons

Brad Scott, not Chris Scott.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

I think it's a great fit tbh, Essendon are looking to turn over a new leaf and develop a new culture and move away from the whole drugs saga into a period of success, Scott would be looking to show he can lead a team to success. I see a fair bit of synergy in where they want to go into the future, both want success after previous disappointment.

 

[Punts]

Brad Scott, not Chris Scott.

Really

Cheers

 

[Deccas]

I get the "it shouldn't have been made public" thing but does anyone seriously think the AFL wouldn't have tried to sweep it under the rug without this public pressure? The journo caught wind of the report, asked the young men what happened and asked Clarkson and Fagan for comment.

 

[SM]

Really

Cheers

No problem. As there's another coach with the same name thought it worth clarifying.

 

[sataris]

No problem. As there's another coach with the same name thought it worth clarifying.

I thought it was Ridley.

 

[Punts]

No problem. As there's another coach with the same name thought it worth clarifying.

Or just being a smartsrse

 

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[Bloods86]

I thought it was Ridley.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Is coaching like some sort of addiction? i recall Brad Scott was absolutely abhorrent of coaching and said he wouldnt put himself and his family through the pressure and scrutiny again.

 

[Kolah]

Fair enough, I just think the way the ABC approached this was very poor. It appears as though the ABC and the journalist involved were fine for those involved (and their families) to become collateral damage in the pursuit of breaking the story, which in itself is an insensitive and heartless act. Regardless of their actions, those accused, as Damo stated, deserve due process and natural justice to play out.

I would have had more respect for the ABC if they had advised the accused of the contents of their story, and provided more time for them to seek their own answers (i.e. request a copy of the actual report) and respond to those claims within a reasonable timeframe (particularly given the serious nature of the accusations). Sending a request via email, and giving them 24 hrs to respond reeks of selfishness. It appears as though they conducted the interviews and rushed to put the story together in order to give 24 hrs notice in time to break the story ahead of the grand final to gain maximum exposure. They're no better than those they're seeking to expose. Shame on the ABC.

Those about whom allegations were made could have been given a month and would sensibly only have given a general response of denial, sadness for those former players and their families, and nothing more to say as it was under investigation.

The ABC, in turn, was in a bind. To reject hearing the former players or to appear to sit on the story would have left the journalist and the organisation open to an accusation of cover up.

It’s a terrible situation in so many ways. Betts’ suggestion that a clubs-wide inquiry be undertaken is probably one part of a positive way forward.


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[The King!]

Yep just grab the premiership coaches brother that will work

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Those about whom allegations were made could have been given a month and would sensibly only have given a general response of denial, sadness for those former players and their families, and nothing more to say as it was under investigation.

The ABC, in turn, was in a bind. To reject hearing the former players or to appear to sit on the story would have left the journalist and the organisation open to an accusation of cover up.

It’s a terrible situation in so many ways. Betts’ suggestion that a clubs-wide inquiry be undertaken is probably one part of a positive way forward.


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I'm not suggesting they should have given them an eternity, but they should have allowed a more reasonable timeframe given how serious the matter is. I don't think ABC we're in a bind, they were serving their own agenda in getting the story out on grand final week.

I do think the ABC has prevented this from being swept under the carpet, which would have been the likely result.

 

[Millky95]

Yep just grab the premiership coaches brother that will work

Tbf B Scott got a medicore North team to 2 prelims so if anyone can get the most out of shit lists, it's him

 

[Punts]

Imo it’s a good signing

 

[Millky95]

Imo it’s a good signing

Better than Hird

 

[Punts]

Better than Hird

He has plenty of experience

I’m pretty sure he would still talk to his brother how the game is changing and bounce of him abit

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Better than Hird

Just surprised he put himself in that position again given he had a comfy job in the AFL

 

[BloodySwan]

Better than Hird

I had really hoped they would appoint Hird. Very disappointed it didn't happen

 

[SM]

Or just being a smartsrse

Nah just clarifying. No need to be such a grump.

 

[Millky95]

I had really hoped they would appoint Hird. Very disappointed it didn't happen

Why? He has no right to be involved in football

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Why? He has no right to be involved in football

That's why he wants him appointed.