Injury 2022 Injury Updates Thread

[Relativity]

Just thought I'd comment on Ollies condition based on my recent experiences here in Dubai.
Obviously I'm far away from being an elite athlete (more like an all-round non-athlete) but there are some similarities.

In late November i had a bit of a cough and cold with flu type symptoms.
Obviously got checked for Covid and was negative.
The cough was annoying and they prescribed a fairly strong suppressant.
Anyway few days later cough was gone, felt fine, back to normal.
Hopped out of bed on a Saturday morning, went to have a shower, I vaguely remember feeling a bit sleepy and thinking I should sit down.
Next thing I know my wife is yelling at me to wake up and screaming for my son to call the ambulance.
Apparently I had passed out, woke up and passed out again.
Anyway ambulance arrived, heart beat was erratic etc but settled as they monitored me.
Went for for a nice ride to ICU overnight.
Did all the tests as mentioned above - nothing abnormal.
Been prescribed with Beta Blockers and an Anti Coagulant. After further visits still no apparent issues.
Have another follow up next month and hopefully off meds.

I've had triple Pfizer, never had Covid, the checked for myocarditis etc but nothing there.
Basically just a super scary experience and no definite cause.

Doctors are saying most likely an effect from the virus I had or a reaction to the cough medication.

I suspect Ollie will be something similar and they may never really know for sure what caused it.

My son had a racing heart a couple of months ago which lasted 2 to 3 hours and disappeared when the ambulance arrived. He hasn't/didn't have covid and hadn't been vaxed. Seems like something else is doing the rounds.

 

[Saltiga]

Sinn's injury is a nuissance to his development.

Might explain his wayward kicking in his first couple of games if he was carrying it.

 

[Spencer22]

Sounds like Ollie had Atrial Fibrillation for a while. Very bewildering feeling of something not being right with dizziness and sometimes a feeling of dread. If it is they might put him on Xarelto or Warfarin to prevent strokes or maybe just a daily jab of blood thinners until things sort out [ can't remember the name]. He's a gig fella doing big Ks so his atrium might be enlarged. All the best to him.

 

[PowerLil]

Ken Hinkley in the press conference cited injuries as an excuse for our performances so far. Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, GWS, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs and West Coast have more.

 

[Capital Power]

Ken Hinkley in the press conference cited injuries as an excuse for our performances so far. Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, GWS, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs and West Coast have more.

It's a contact sport. Injuries are inevitable. How well Clubs deal with this is directly attributable to the coaching and the ability of replacements to fit into the system. Meanwhile, at Port, Sam Mayes slots in for Dixon...

 

[Mutha F]

How is Fantasia still 5-7 weeks away. weak as piss. Always will be

 

[RossFC]

How is Fantasia still 5-7 weeks away. weak as piss. Always will be

He's aiming for post-bye.

 

[Relativity]

How is Fantasia still 5-7 weeks away. weak as piss. Always will be

Wait till he gets to the 2 week away level. Man.

 

[Mutha F]

He's aiming for post-bye.

He'll be ready just in time for our finals campaign

 

[Mutha F]

Wait till he gets to the 2 week away level. Man.

I don't understand what you are saying. Man

 

[Expat power]

Ken Hinkley in the press conference cited injuries as an excuse for our performances so far. Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, GWS, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs and West Coast have more.

West coast have had the shittiest deal but there’s injuries and there’s injuries. Dixon, Alir, Gray, Fantasia are key players and losing Alir, Clurey and McKensie within round 1 was a fair hit to the backline. Losing Dixon Gray and Fantasia a fair whack to the forward structure. Ollies been underperforming and we now know why. Lycett played with one shoulder.
West coast will have Kelly, Shuey and Yeo back this week, they’ll be back on track by the time we see them even without Nic Nat.

 

[JUSTWORK]

West coast have had the shittiest deal but there’s injuries and there’s injuries. Dixon, Alir, Gray, Fantasia are key players and losing Alir, Clurey and McKensie within round 1 was a fair hit to the backline. Losing Dixon Gray and Fantasia a fair whack to the forward structure. Ollies been underperforming and we now know why. Lycett played with one shoulder.
West coast will have Kelly, Shuey and Yeo back this week, they’ll be back on track by the time we see them even without Nic Nat.

Rounds 1 & 3 were simply lost because of coaching. Hinkley reacts to the game and we win both regardless of injuries and are worst case 2-2.
If not for really poor selections and the worst game plan & strategy i can remember from a port side, we'd of been half a chance at pitching the Melb game.
Injuries are nothing more that a poor excuse for where we currently sit.

 

[Relativity]

I don't understand what you are saying. Man

You've been hanging around here for a couple of years and aren't familiar with the "2 weeks" Port meme?

 

[Mutha F]

You've been hanging around here for a couple of years and aren't familiar with the "2 weeks" Port meme?

nah I'm pretty thick. But i think i get the idea

edit - Portnight?

 

[AlecDuncan]

Sounds like Ollie had Atrial Fibrillation for a while. Very bewildering feeling of something not being right with dizziness and sometimes a feeling of dread. If it is they might put him on Xarelto or Warfarin to prevent strokes or maybe just a daily jab of blood thinners until things sort out [ can't remember the name]. He's a gig fella doing big Ks so his atrium might be enlarged. All the best to him.

Atrial Fibrillation is pretty damn serious. I wouldn't expect to see him even training for a while. Good luck to the guy.

 

[Mikey13G]

Trent McKenzie

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Trent Mckenzie

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

89kg

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Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

305.7

4star

D

12.1

3star

K

10.6

4star

HB

1.6

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.1

2star

MG

290.6

4star

D

16.8

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.8

5star

won't play this week after having an arthroscopic clean out of his left knee yesterday.

 

[Expat power]

Rounds 1 & 3 were simply lost because of coaching. Hinkley reacts to the game and we win both regardless of injuries and are worst case 2-2.
If not for really poor selections and the worst game plan & strategy i can remember from a port side, we'd of been half a chance at pitching the Melb game.
Injuries are nothing more that a poor excuse for where we currently sit.

Okay, willing to take your word for it. I'm not a coach so would love to be educated on what you would have done in Round 1 after Alir broke his ankle, McKensie was stretchered off, Robbie Gray had done his knee and Duursma was off with a suspected collarbone? I remember Ollie took himself off the ground because he was struggling to breathe causing the commentators to ask what was wrong with him "he looks gassed" which we now know translates to he had a dicky ticker. So what do you do when youre down to zero rotations for the last 12 minutes and key players are injured. Not being a smart arse just want to hear how "simple" it was for Hinkley to react.

I didn't think we were a chance at all in the Melbourne game, I thought we'd be done by 10 goals so I genuinely would love to hear your strategy on how we would have won that game with the current personnel we have available.

 

[Saltiga]

I've always thought that perhaps AFL players are not as healthy as they look. The trauma they put their bodies through each and every game is mind boggling. The human body doesn't hold up so well to being constantly 'red lined'.

 

[Powerade 08]

I remember Ollie took himself off the ground because he was struggling to breathe causing the commentators to ask what was wrong with him "he looks gassed" which we now know translates to he had a dicky ticker.

Do you remember the commentators suggesting we move a tall forward behind the ball? Rather than sip Coke Zero and watch the other team overrun us?

 

[Expat power]

Do you remember the commentators suggesting we move a tall forward behind the ball? Rather than sip Coke Zero and watch the other team overrun us?

Brisbane game? Which tall forward?

 

[Tibbs]

Okay, willing to take your word for it. I'm not a coach so would love to be educated on what you would have done in Round 1 after Alir broke his ankle, McKensie was stretchered off, Robbie Gray had done his knee and Duursma was off with a suspected collarbone? I remember Ollie took himself off the ground because he was struggling to breathe causing the commentators to ask what was wrong with him "he looks gassed" which we now know translates to he had a dicky ticker. So what do you do when youre down to zero rotations for the last 12 minutes and key players are injured. Not being a smart arse just want to hear how "simple" it was for Hinkley to react.

I didn't think we were a chance at all in the Melbourne game, I thought we'd be done by 10 goals so I genuinely would love to hear your strategy on how we would have won that game with the current personnel we have available.

C'mon mate! You Shirley cant be serious?
The round 1 loss was winnable, despite the injures.
OK, even if we lose, we replace the injured, and come out breathing fire against Hawthorn in memorial match for the great man, right?.... NOT!!!
No worries ... We can turn this around for the showdown against the midget Crows, right? ... Not!!!
Against Melbourne you are 100% correct. The moment the team rolls out with one dinosaur ruck against the premier ruck duo of the comp, and Mayes walks up to full-forward - kenny's great master-plan ... Yep, 100% clear that we had zero chance of winning.

But hey ... injuries!

 

[PowerLil]

Trent McKenzie won't play this week after having an arthroscopic clean out of his left knee yesterday.

Should've had the procedure after round 1. Good ol' "I don't take any risks with our players" Hinkley always plays injured players and always has done.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Okay, willing to take your word for it. I'm not a coach so would love to be educated on what you would have done in Round 1 after Alir broke his ankle, McKensie was stretchered off, Robbie Gray had done his knee and Duursma was off with a suspected collarbone? I remember Ollie took himself off the ground because he was struggling to breathe causing the commentators to ask what was wrong with him "he looks gassed" which we now know translates to he had a dicky ticker. So what do you do when youre down to zero rotations for the last 12 minutes and key players are injured. Not being a smart arse just want to hear how "simple" it was for Hinkley to react.

I didn't think we were a chance at all in the Melbourne game, I thought we'd be done by 10 goals so I genuinely would love to hear your strategy on how we would have won that game with the current personnel we have available.

It's not about the current game.

It's about the last 10 years and about the future.

Do we go back to the well of the old shit that doesn't work (which we did) or do we start planning for the future.

We weren't winning anyway.

Why not lose with Hayes getting a game as a 2nd ruck/3rd forward?

Why not give Marshall a chance to learn from playing on May and being targeted inside 50?

Why not give the players the chance to learn a more direct game plan?

 

[Expat power]

C'mon mate! You Shirley cant be serious?
The round 1 loss was winnable, despite the injures.
OK, even if we lose, we replace the injured, and come out breathing fire against Hawthorn in memorial match for the great man, right?.... NOT!!!
No worries ... We can turn this around for the showdown against the midget Crows, right? ... Not!!!
Against Melbourne you are 100% correct. The moment the team rolls out with one dinosaur ruck against the premier ruck duo of the comp, and Mayes walks up to full-forward - kenny's great master-plan ... Yep, 100% clear that we had zero chance of winning.

But hey ... injuries!

I’m not disagreeing. I was genuinely asking about this “Rounds 1 & 3 were simply lost because of coaching. Hinkley reacts to the game and we win both regardless of injuries and are worst case 2-2.”

I totally agree the Hawthorn game was unforgivable under the circumstances and we wobbled at the end of the crows game - but my question was to JUSTWORK who said “we lost round 1 due to coaching”. It was a genuine question - I’m not a coach, one of my best mates is a coach and has really good isights so I was genuinely asking how JUSTWORK wouled have coached us to a win in round 1. This is a football forum right?

 

[JUSTWORK]

I’m not disagreeing. I was genuinely asking about this “Rounds 1 & 3 were simply lost because of coaching. Hinkley reacts to the game and we win both regardless of injuries and are worst case 2-2.”

I totally agree the Hawthorn game was unforgivable under the circumstances and we wobbled at the end of the crows game - but my question was to JUSTWORK who said “we lost round 1 due to coaching”. It was a genuine question - I’m not a coach, one of my best mates is a coach and has really good isights so I was genuinely asking how JUSTWORK wouled have coached us to a win in round 1. This is a football forum right?

We were 4 goals up late in the third, Duursma out injured. Aliir, Gray and Rozee all carying injury. You dont need to be an expert to realise running out the game would be a challenge. Marshall hadn't done a whole lot for the game (with a total of 4 disposals for the game), he should have been put loose in defence o carry our 4 goal lead into 3 quarter time and if not Marshall than Finlayson.

As usual Hinkley does nothing to adress the way the game is unfolding resulting in Daniher kicking the next 3 goals, having brisbae within a kick 6 minutes into the last quarter and Brisbane kicking 5.4 to our 1.2. With one of Marhsall or Finlasyon loose in defence that doesn't happen, we cary our 4 goal lead into 3 quarter time and Daniher doesn't kick another 2 inside the first 6 minutes.

Players just needed to work harder, obviously. What kind of crazy person would think the coach might react to having 4 injuries whilst 4 goals up late in the third ?