2023/2024 Gold Coast Draft & Trade periods

[Southern Sun]

Wingman weighing up Western Bulldogs future

The 27-year-old is pondering what is ahead.

www.sen.com.au

Lachie hunter anyone?

No

 

[MarcLocksCrustySock]

Hunter is a squib.

 

[Southern Sun]

By all reports massive off field issues also

 

[OB11]

Trade radio discussing something I that 100% agree with.

They say that a player (known quantity) is usually worth more than a pick (speculative talent).

They used Stanley to Geelong for pick 21 from the Saints as an example. Overall, worth more to Geelong than the pick, even if everyone thought that Geelong payed “overs” for him at the time. He was a ready named player who filled a key need.

This is why I was fine with the Weller trade. Weller was worth more to us at the time than a pick could have been worth in the future. We needed a player like him and needed the story. They also discussed that it’s irrelevant who the pick was and what player they become, as nobody knows what player would actually be taken at that spot.

As a more recent example I’ll use, Rankine is worth more to us than Pick 5, and should be worth far more to the Crows than that same pick. A player with 2-4 years of experience and proven talent should be worth more than a pick that could be an absolute bust. You know what you will get with Rankine with far more certainty than you would with a pick 5.

Obviously a first round pick just increases the odds of a good player. That’s all.

Disagree with the Weller trade.

We've passed on LDU or Brayshaw to bring Weller back so he could come back to his family and get wildly overpaid to do so.

Weller wasn't a missing piece and was never going to be the difference between contending or not.

If we had not made that deal we probably play finals this year with the quality of midfielder we would have drafted, and potentially be in a better position with our salary cap, given how much he got and the message it sent in that anyone who comes or stays at the club is required to be paid significantly more than market value.

 

[Stroppy]

Disagree with the Weller trade.

We've passed on LDU or Brayshaw to bring Weller back so he could come back to his family and get wildly overpaid to do so.

Weller wasn't a missing piece and was never going to be the difference between contending or not.

If we had not made that deal we probably play finals this year with the quality of midfielder we would have drafted, and potentially be in a better position with our salary cap, given how much he got and the message it sent in that anyone who comes or stays at the club is required to be paid significantly more than market value.

Always wondered how much the Weller trade factored into the priority pick 1 presentation.

"Not only did we lose Prestia, O'Meara, Lynch and May, but look at how much we had to pay to get an OK player in Weller to come join us...we are a laughing stock!"

Then the head honchos and the AFL go "sheeeeeit, can't argue with that. Here is pick 1, plus a bunch of other stuff you probably would have got anyway, but that Weller rubbish is too much".

So if it makes anyone feel better, it was LDU/Brayshaw for Weller + the pick that turned into Ballard + Ando.
Every day of the Week!!!!!!!

 

[OB11]

Always wondered how much the Weller trade factored into the priority pick 1 presentation.

"Not only did we lose Prestia, O'Meara, Lynch and May, but look at how much we had to pay to get an OK player in Weller to come join us...we are a laughing stock!"

Then the head honchos and the AFL go "sheeeeeit, can't argue with that. Here is pick 1, plus a bunch of other stuff you probably would have got anyway, but that Weller rubbish is too much".

So if it makes anyone feel better, it was LDU/Brayshaw for Weller + the pick that turned into Ballard + Ando.
Every day of the Week!!!!!!!

I thought of that as well and figured that neither one of those kids we draft in year 1 or 2 are making us any better or worse than Weller in her year 3/4 season.

Plus the Ballard stuff is bulldust as we had 3 second rounders we gave to WCE so any of those could have got us Ballard.

 

[NOBBYS]

How we got to this diabolical list and trade mess in a professional organization is beyond me.
Craig Cameron needs to explain how we trade in high draft picks ,then give them to other clubs for next to nothing plus give away good picks.
Really concerned where we are at for season 2023.
Rankin gone , three best 22 out for large part of season , number of fringe players moved on ,we will need alot of luck with injuries
to compete with the best teams.
Cannot see to many miracles happening during this trade period.
Time to take the dog for a walk.

 

[The Gotham Penguin]

Wingman weighing up Western Bulldogs future

The 27-year-old is pondering what is ahead.

www.sen.com.au

Lachie hunter anyone?

If any Dog other than Dunkley was on the market - Toby McClean for mine. I know he has had knee issues,but at his best was a real A-Grader
Hunter - hard pass,along with JJ

 

[kreglze]

Just as an experiment I thought I'd put together a best 22 for round 1 next year missing all the players we are moving on, or will be injured to see how we look. Have added Long in assuming we pick him up.

So I have excluded:

Rankine
Bowes
Fiorini
Sharp
Corbett
Powell
Weller
Budarick
Sexton

Lemmens - Collins - Long
Farrar - Ballard - Lukosius
Ellis - Swallow - Anderson
Ainsworth - Chol - Hollands
Rosas - King - Jeffrey

Witts - Rowell - Miller

Flanders - Holman - Davies - Moyle/Andrew
​

This is even before we bring anyone else in, it doesn't look awful. Improvements to be made for sure as the bench is a little thin. That is also assuming all those players I have excluded leave or are out for most of the next year, Powell should be back first half of next season and someone like Sharp might end up sticking around as he is still contracted.

I wouldn't assume we don't bring anyone else in though as well. I will wait until the end of the trade period before I lose my head.

 

[Supersuns]

Put King back in that forward line and we play finals this year.
The overreacting on here is unreal, people acting like we won 4 games this year.

 

[Southern Sun]

Never been much of a mitch Robinson

5

Mitch Robinson

Age

35

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

8.7

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

15.8

4star

K

11.3

4star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.9

3star

CL

1.8

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.6

5star

fan but maybe he's a player along with connor blakely

26

Connor Blakely

Age

28

Ht

189cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

2.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

14.4

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.4

5star

M

0.8

1star

T

3.4

5star

CL

3.2

5star

that plays for minimum salary and gives good experience and depth. Those 2 replace bowes and fiorini and there's 1 million + saved.

 

[Supersuns]

Never been much of a mitch Robinson fan but maybe he's a player along with connor blakely that plays for minimum salary and gives good experience and depth. Those 2 replace bowes and fiorini and there's 1 million + saved.

Robbo is utterly cooked. Not worth it at all. I'd let Blakely play VFL all season though.

 

[TheGoldPersons]

Johannisen turns back on rival interest to sign multi-year deal at Bulldogs

Jason Johannisen will remain at Whittten Oval.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Supersuns]

Johannisen turns back on rival interest to sign multi-year deal at Bulldogs

Jason Johannisen will remain at Whittten Oval.

www.sen.com.au

Good.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Johannisen turns back on rival interest to sign multi-year deal at Bulldogs

Jason Johannisen will remain at Whittten Oval.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Ben Drever]

I like how they making out it was his decision.
Pretty sure the Suns cooled on him and he had nothing else left.

 

[exile]

Rule change talks over ‘disappointing’ exit; Hill WILL join Pies: Giants Trade Whispers

Rule change talks over ‘disappointing’ exit; gun WILL join Pies: Giants Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

McCartney described it as a “disappointing” outcome confirmed he’s held talks over the league extending the standard length of rookie contracts beyond two seasons.

“It is disappointing, it’s a reality, we just have to work with it now. It looks like it’s leaning that way with Geelong and we’ll sit down with Andrew Mackie

Andrew Mackie

Age

40

Ht

193cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

346.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.2

4star

and thrash out what we can get done there,” he said.

“Two years, that is really disappointing. No doubt there has been conversations had for a while and the AFLPA is involved, but our conversations with the AFLPA are around that fact. Those first-year draftees, the two-year standard contract needs to be longer, that’s for sure.

“What we’re getting also is there’s an explosion in player salaries third year when they become open market. You look at ourselves and Gold Coast and maybe some other clubs who’ve had multiple early picks, what happens is you do have to pay a premium in that third year to retain the player.

“That’s fine when the players are performing and you’re paying for production, but players develop at different rates.

“The challenge is you’re in a position where generally you’re having to pay top dollar just to retain the players. Ultimately that puts pressure on your salary cap as well.”

 

[Southern Sun]

Could it be possible we are clearing enough space for a de goey?

 

[Ben Drever]

Jeez, Rankine was just in the news.
As he arrived back from S.A reporters everywhere at the airport all asking him about if he saw the Crows etc few other questions..
Rankine looked like he was about to cry.
Didn’t say a word.

 

[Jirik13]

How we got to this diabolical list

It looks exciting best 22 to me. Pretty much the opposite of diabolical.

Lemmens Collins, Farrar
Long Ballard Andrew
Hollands Anderson Ellis
Witts Miller Rowell
Ainsworth Chol Luko
Jeffrey King Rosas

Davies, Holman, Swallow, Flanders

Except Rankine, we are cleaning up players who are not in the best 22 and are on good money and could have interest from other teams and would leave probably anyway looking for opportunity.

List size is important. If we will have 44 like rest of competition, suggested players leaving will do.

Depth - Ace, Day, Burgess (seems no interest yet), Graham, Thompson, Casboult, Atkins, Macpherson, Constable, from middle of season Weller, Powell and hopefully Budarick too

Sharp, Sexton, Markov could still stay

Rookies Moyle, Brock, (both can play AFL), Uwland, Faulkhead

That's 41 plus 2 draftees (1 top 10), one upgrade to senior list (Moyle) plus 1-2 academy (Johnston for me),

We would have to get some players for VFL only.

 

[KaySwizzle]

Jeez, Rankine was just in the news.
As he arrived back from S.A reporters everywhere at the airport all asking him about if he saw the Crows etc few other questions..
Rankine looked like he was about to cry.
Didn’t say a word.

Well, he better get used to it. He will be under the media microscope from now on.

 

[Jirik13]

“What we’re getting also is there’s an explosion in player salaries third year when they become open market. You look at ourselves and Gold Coast and maybe some other clubs who’ve had multiple early picks, what happens is you do have to pay a premium in that third year to retain the player.

“That’s fine when the players are performing and you’re paying for production, but players develop at different rates.

“The challenge is you’re in a position where generally you’re having to pay top dollar just to retain the players. Ultimately that puts pressure on your salary cap as well.”

A lot of fans ignore this fact. We got 9 first round picks in the last 4 years with this 3rd year jump. To bring another let's say 3-4 this year is not a solution, just asking for trouble down the track.

 

[Jirik13]

Jeez, Rankine was just in the news.
As he arrived back from S.A reporters everywhere at the airport all asking him about if he saw the Crows etc few other questions..
Rankine looked like he was about to cry.
Didn’t say a word.

Stay in SA, Rankine. I don't want you here.

 

[Choppers]

Could it be possible we are clearing enough space for a de goey?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/afl-trade-news-2022-jordan-de-goey-rejects-collingwood-contract-offer-behaviour-clauses-st-kilda-interest-free-agent/news-story/586

 

[The Kings Ransom]

De Goey rejects Collingwood contract offer over behavioural clauses

Collingwood’s Jordan De Goey has rejected a contract offer from the Magpies, saying he will not sign a new deal with the behaviour clauses the club is demanding.

www.theage.com.au

Lol,
What a dickhead.

Edit: already linked.