2023/2024 Gold Coast Draft & Trade periods

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Salary cap in 2022 was 13.5M. No number yet for 2023 (no CBA) but let's expect 10% increase. That would be 14.85M.

Just for fun, did somebody try to guess our players salaries next year and look at the total? I tried below. I did not put too much thought into salaries so some may be laughable. If you feel like give me some suggestions where I can save money to get us under cap with both Fiorini and Bowes staying :p

No players without contract at the moment or leaving are included (Rankine, Constable, Tsitas, Markov, Burgess, Corbett, Faulkhead). Rookies salaries are not included as they are not part of cap (Moyle, Ace, Uwland, Casboult, Brock).

I actually feel some of my guesses are conservative except back ended Fiorini and Bowes. If Rankine stayed I would be in trouble with my numbers.

I ended up with Total 15.47M (620K over cap). If Bowes is on 700K and Fiorini on 600K and both left that would be total 14.17M, 680K under cap (basically 95% of the cap).

Wil Powell450
Sam Collins650
Sean Lemmens350
Mac Andrew120
Charlie Ballard550
Jy Farrar300
Elijah Hollands400
Noah Anderson450
Brandon Ellis400
Ben Ainsworth550
Mabior Chol400
Jack Lukosius600
Nick Holman350
Ben King700
Malcolm Rosas300
Jarrod Witts700
Matthew Rowell450
Touk Miller800
Joel Jeffrey350
Sam Flanders400
David Swallow650
Alex Davies400
Darcy Macpherson350
Brayden Fiorini600
Caleb Graham350
Jeremy Sharp350
Alex Sexton500
Sam Day450
Jack Bowes700
Connor Budarick400
Rory Thompson500
Rory Atkins400
Lachie Weller550
Ben Long450
Total15470
 
Jirik13 said:
Salary cap in 2022 was 13.5M. No number yet for 2023 (no CBA) but let's expect 10% increase. That would be 14.85M.

Just for fun, did somebody try to guess our players salaries next year and look at the total? I tried below. I did not put too much thought into salaries so some may be laughable. If you feel like give me some suggestions where I can save money to get us under cap with both Fiorini and Bowes staying :p

No players without contract at the moment or leaving are included (Rankine, Constable, Tsitas, Markov, Burgess, Corbett, Faulkhead). Rookies salaries are not included as they are not part of cap (Moyle, Ace, Uwland, Casboult, Brock).

I actually feel some of my guesses are conservative except back ended Fiorini and Bowes. If Rankine stayed I would be in trouble with my numbers.

I ended up with Total 15.47M (620K over cap). If Bowes is on 700K and Fiorini on 600K and both left that would be total 14.17M, 680K under cap (basically 95% of the cap).

Wil Powell450
Sam Collins650
Sean Lemmens350
Mac Andrew120
Charlie Ballard550
Jy Farrar300
Elijah Hollands400
Noah Anderson450
Brandon Ellis400
Ben Ainsworth550
Mabior Chol400
Jack Lukosius600
Nick Holman350
Ben King700
Malcolm Rosas300
Jarrod Witts700
Matthew Rowell450
Touk Miller800
Joel Jeffrey350
Sam Flanders400
David Swallow650
Alex Davies400
Darcy Macpherson350
Brayden Fiorini600
Caleb Graham350
Jeremy Sharp350
Alex Sexton500
Sam Day450
Jack Bowes700
Connor Budarick400
Rory Thompson500
Rory Atkins400
Lachie Weller550
Ben Long450
Total15470
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Holman, Farrar, Day, McPherson and Davies would worry me at those prices. At any Melbourne club the role players would be lucky to see $300k. If you are paying those players those prices that's where we have ****ed up.
 

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OB11 said:
Holman, Farrar, Day, McPherson and Davies would worry me at those prices. At any Melbourne club the role players would be lucky to see $300k. If you are paying those players those prices that's where we have *ed up.
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300K it is for them. 15.12M now. Almost there. OK, I also lowered Thompson and Sexton salaries by 100K and I am there.

Davies was projected 1st round pick, even around pick 10. For those draftees, in 3rd year, 400K is common now according to Twomey.
 
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Ben Drever said:
Was an article out a couple weeks back Swallow in the top 20 odd players salaries. At over 800k :/

Anyways just not picking.

Thanks for the post.. it is insightful to say the least
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It's actually fun trying to asign value to players and stay within cap. Not easy and biased. I certainly recommend trying it.
 
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Ben Drever said:
Then over at the Cattery where the world is a happier place.
You got Hawkins who almost wins the Coleman medal playing for the same wage as Rosas.

Feck!
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What about 3rd parties deals :p There are a lot of jokes about Cats and their off-field magic.

OK, 200K for Rosa and if you want to leave, be my guest. Cochrane can also set you up with a fake job within his entertainment business.

My total is still probably too high. Still need some money for cheap (re)signings. Maybe Witts, Swallow and Thompson have front-loaded contracts and from next year their salaries start going down.
 
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I know some fiesty peeps in here don’t like talking about other clubs.. but looking at the cats gf team list you prob have
Miers , Close , De Koning , T Atkins , Z. Guthrie , O’Connor , Parfitt, Stengle and possibly Bews

all $300k max approx 9 players

And I’m aware everyone takes less down there.. compared to the northern states.
Just showing how hard it must be to put a premiership list together and were prob still got a couple years of messing around with the list to be in the peak zone.

Feel free to come at me if u think I'm
Incorrect.
 
Ben Drever said:
I know some fiesty peeps in here don’t like talking about other clubs.. but looking at the cats gf team list you prob have
Miers , Close , De Koning , T Atkins , Z. Guthrie , O’Connor , Parfitt, Stengle and possibly Bews

all $300k max approx 9 players

Feel free to come at me if u think I'm
Incorrect.

So Suns have plenty of work still to do, one would think.
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Don't rely on my list. It's probably non-sense :)
 
exile said:
wouldn't guys like dave be under veterans salary and only 50% contributing to the cap?

regardless, i hate these stabs in the dark at salaries. it's so pointless haha
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Never heard of veterans salary. I searched, and it looks like it was removed in 2017.

Yes, it's pointless exercise but I enjoyed it. Just ignore it :)
 
Jirik13 said:
Never heard of veterans salary. I searched, and it looks like it was removed in 2017.

Yes, it's pointless exercise but I enjoyed it. Just ignore it :)
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Spot on! it's a pointless exercise, but I would imagine, it does help to fill in time, when there's no decent footy games to watch.....;)

I play Sudoku instead, to help pass the time....
 
Jirik13 said:
Salary cap in 2022 was 13.5M. No number yet for 2023 (no CBA) but let's expect 10% increase. That would be 14.85M.

Just for fun, did somebody try to guess our players salaries next year and look at the total? I tried below. I did not put too much thought into salaries so some may be laughable. If you feel like give me some suggestions where I can save money to get us under cap with both Fiorini and Bowes staying :p

No players without contract at the moment or leaving are included (Rankine, Constable, Tsitas, Markov, Burgess, Corbett, Faulkhead). Rookies salaries are not included as they are not part of cap (Moyle, Ace, Uwland, Casboult, Brock).

I actually feel some of my guesses are conservative except back ended Fiorini and Bowes. If Rankine stayed I would be in trouble with my numbers.

I ended up with Total 15.47M (620K over cap). If Bowes is on 700K and Fiorini on 600K and both left that would be total 14.17M, 680K under cap (basically 95% of the cap).

Wil Powell450
Sam Collins650
Sean Lemmens350
Mac Andrew120
Charlie Ballard550
Jy Farrar300
Elijah Hollands400
Noah Anderson450
Brandon Ellis400
Ben Ainsworth550
Mabior Chol400
Jack Lukosius600
Nick Holman350
Ben King700
Malcolm Rosas300
Jarrod Witts700
Matthew Rowell450
Touk Miller800
Joel Jeffrey350
Sam Flanders400
David Swallow650
Alex Davies400
Darcy Macpherson350
Brayden Fiorini600
Caleb Graham350
Jeremy Sharp350
Alex Sexton500
Sam Day450
Jack Bowes700
Connor Budarick400
Rory Thompson500
Rory Atkins400
Lachie Weller550
Ben Long450
Total15470
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I would say that Davies, farrar, budarick and rosas would be on less than you’ve listed.

Sharp had played 2 career games at the time his contract extension was announced so probably on less as well.

Jeffrey and Graham probably a little less.

Same with Ainsworth and Ballard IMO.

I would say most of those are close. Maybe 10-15% difference.

Not sure how many might have performance bonus factored in.

Probably around the mark with Day but never performed at this level.

My thoughts.
 

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Ben Drever said:
Then over at the Cattery where the world is a happier place.
You got Hawkins who almost wins the Coleman medal playing for the same wage as Rosas.

Feck!
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Plus Hawkins gets super cheap house extensions and doesnt need to pay for anything at Dangerfields pub he purchased for $1.

Geelong know how to look after its players.

Will be not happy if Bowes and pick 7 ends up at Geelong. Hopefully the Suns dont make the best side even better and remember they will likely be playing them in finals in the next few years.
 
“Gold Coast could shed as much as $2 million in salary cap room in the next 15 days in an aggressive bid to overhaul its total player payments.
The Suns will be the first club in modern history to make dramatic use of the salary dump mechanism which allows clubs to move on highly paid players for little or no draft return.

It will give Victorian clubs the chance to add quality Suns players and draft picks to their lists with very little downside or risk”.

“Running defender Jack Bowes has interest from multiple clubs who would secure the Suns pick seven to accept the last two-years of back-ended highly paid deal”.

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The Herald Sun understands that deal is worth over $500,000 in each of the next two seasons, with Essendon, Hawthorn, St Kilda and Geelong among the interested parties.

Essendon has vast cap space, St Kilda wants to get back into the draft, and Hawthorn has already thrived by securing Jack Scrimshaw as a fellow Suns top 10 pick from the same draft.

The Suns would have paid Izak Rankine around $650,000 a season over a long-term deal but will not replace him as a small forward given their confidence in Malcolm Rosas and Ben Ainsworth.

Brayden Fiorini will also be involved in a salary dump, most likely to Collingwood, which could see the Pies absorb his $600,000 salary next year and improve their draft hand.

Alex Sexton is also due over $500,000 on the last year of a back ended deal but if there is little interest from rivals the club and his management might consider restructuring his deal.

The Suns are investigating restructuring some existing contracts after smoothing out Darcy Macpherson’s contract last year over an additional year.
Jeremy Sharp is not well paid but could head to Fremantle, while versatile tall Josh Corbett is also linked to the Dockers”.

 
If the Suns can move on those players or restructure their contracts it will realign their salary cap and give them opportunities to be aggressive in free agency or the trade period in coming years.

After nine first-round picks in the past four years the Suns have judged that having cap space is more critical to their fortunes in coming years than stockpiling more early picks.

The Suns will secure Ben Long on a four-year deal and has some interest in Western Bulldogs defender Jason Johannisen but is not prepared to offer him the three-year deal he has requested.
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Corkie said:
“Gold Coast could shed as much as $2 million in salary cap room in the next 15 days in an aggressive bid to overhaul its total player payments.
The Suns will be the first club in modern history to make dramatic use of the salary dump mechanism which allows clubs to move on highly paid players for little or no draft return.

It will give Victorian clubs the chance to add quality Suns players and draft picks to their lists with very little downside or risk”.

“Running defender Jack Bowes has interest from multiple clubs who would secure the Suns pick seven to accept the last two-years of back-ended highly paid deal”.

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The Herald Sun understands that deal is worth over $500,000 in each of the next two seasons, with Essendon, Hawthorn, St Kilda and Geelong among the interested parties.

Essendon has vast cap space, St Kilda wants to get back into the draft, and Hawthorn has already thrived by securing Jack Scrimshaw as a fellow Suns top 10 pick from the same draft.

The Suns would have paid Izak Rankine around $650,000 a season over a long-term deal but will not replace him as a small forward given their confidence in Malcolm Rosas and Ben Ainsworth.

Brayden Fiorini will also be involved in a salary dump, most likely to Collingwood, which could see the Pies absorb his $600,000 salary next year and improve their draft hand.

Alex Sexton is also due over $500,000 on the last year of a back ended deal but if there is little interest from rivals the club and his management might consider restructuring his deal.

The Suns are investigating restructuring some existing contracts after smoothing out Darcy Macpherson’s contract last year over an additional year.
Jeremy Sharp is not well paid but could head to Fremantle, while versatile tall Josh Corbett is also linked to the Dockers”.

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Ralph reporting Bowes salary over 500K does not make too much sense if Bowes contract is heavily back ended (according to Twomey). Unless over 500K means 700-800K.
 
The Gotham Penguin said:
If we have Ben Long over the line,I would hope that Bowes + 1 other salary dump player + Pick #7 and pick #43 would land us Hunter Clark as well.

I know Cameron is a moron but seeing as we are already dealing with Saint Kilda, then how hard would it be to land Long AND Clark.
Bowes + Sharp + pick #7 and pick #43 for Ben Long and Hunter Clark.

Offload Fiorini ,Corbett + Burgess as well and that gets us two player upgrades and some salary cap wriggle room.

But this is Cameron we are talking about.

So we won't even consider it.
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Like the idea of that deal. That'd be interesting. Not down with the bagging of Cameron though.
 
Trade radio discussing something I that 100% agree with.

They say that a player (known quantity) is usually worth more than a pick (speculative talent).

They used Stanley to Geelong for pick 21 from the Saints as an example. Overall, worth more to Geelong than the pick, even if everyone thought that Geelong payed “overs” for him at the time. He was a ready named player who filled a key need.

This is why I was fine with the Weller trade. Weller was worth more to us at the time than a pick could have been worth in the future. We needed a player like him and needed the story. They also discussed that it’s irrelevant who the pick was and what player they become, as nobody knows what player would actually be taken at that spot.

As a more recent example I’ll use, Rankine is worth more to us than Pick 5, and should be worth far more to the Crows than that same pick. A player with 2-4 years of experience and proven talent should be worth more than a pick that could be an absolute bust. You know what you will get with Rankine with far more certainty than you would with a pick 5.

Obviously a first round pick just increases the odds of a good player. That’s all.
 
Ben Drever said:

Wingman weighing up Western Bulldogs future

The 27-year-old is pondering what is ahead.
www.sen.com.au www.sen.com.au

Lachie hunter anyone?
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I can’t see anyone of note wanting to come to us, we are once again flushing our reputation down the toilet with never before seen deals to off load talent, think about that, they have never been seen before and their is a reason for that
 
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