You could make an argument to include both of them and exclude Moore. Moore the best defender offensively but been exposed a fair few times defensively. Doubt that happens though given the year Collingwood have had.
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You could make an argument to include both of them and exclude Moore. Moore the best defender offensively but been exposed a fair few times defensively. Doubt that happens though given the year Collingwood have had.
Didn't play on him
- Jan 23, 2007
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Moore had the AA Captaincy sewn up after his, umm, lengthy Anzac Day talk.
- Mar 25, 2019
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Weitering v Andrews to me is decided on 6 simple metrics.
5.8 - Spoils - 9.5
1.8 - Contested Marks - 1.5
3.7 - Intercept Marks - 3.4
7.5 - Intercepts - 7.6
11.4% - One on One DL% - 14.8
4.8 - Rebound 50's - 3.5
Imo the 6 criteria you need to judge a KPD on. The rest of the stats tend to just be stat padding trash - DE, Uncontested Marks, Metres gained... Couldn't care less about them as half of them get blown up in Luke Ryan esq kick to kick parties in the backline that lead to SFA.
5.8 - Spoils - 9.5
1.8 - Contested Marks - 1.5
3.7 - Intercept Marks - 3.4
7.5 - Intercepts - 7.6
11.4% - One on One DL% - 14.8
4.8 - Rebound 50's - 3.5
Imo the 6 criteria you need to judge a KPD on. The rest of the stats tend to just be stat padding trash - DE, Uncontested Marks, Metres gained... Couldn't care less about them as half of them get blown up in Luke Ryan esq kick to kick parties in the backline that lead to SFA.
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AAAAAAAAAAARGH!
AA SQUAD REVEALED: Five Pies in, stars miss, young guns named
Tim Taranto, Sam Taylor and Max Gawn are the notable absentees from the 2023 AFL All-Australian squad of 44
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44 man squad out now.
fpm84
Brownlow Medallist
No Miers in the squad, LOL.
Navy blue whale
Team Captain
No Nic Newman in the AA squad but they’ve got Crippa… wowsers
Sanity prevails
- Jan 23, 2007
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Hopefully the judges judge on actually watching games. Stats like this is classic BigFooty and provides nothing.
- Aug 20, 2010
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- Fremantle
Whately in shambles
Jeremy Cameron was the best player in the league after the first 3-4 rounds and can’t make the AA squad.
But Daniher and Allen do….
Also Cerra can’t make the squad either…
But Daniher and Allen do….
Also Cerra can’t make the squad either…
- May 24, 2011
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Did not have Luke Jackson in my squad
- Jan 23, 2007
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What are his “vision around the corner to spot up a free player stats?”
Kings of Lygon
All Australian
- Aug 31, 2021
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- Carlton
- Banned
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Jeez, few headscratchers this year... More so than usual me thinks.
Not sure De Goey, Newcombe, Allen, Jackson or Quaynor have any real place in this squad looking at who missed out.
Shocked by Taranto's omission.
If you're going to give Jackson a nod, Gawn is stiff. Newman I feel is pretty stiff too, especially with Quaynor getting a look in. Sam Taylor hasn't played enough games, but I thought for sure they'd pick him.
Not sure De Goey, Newcombe, Allen, Jackson or Quaynor have any real place in this squad looking at who missed out.
Shocked by Taranto's omission.
If you're going to give Jackson a nod, Gawn is stiff. Newman I feel is pretty stiff too, especially with Quaynor getting a look in. Sam Taylor hasn't played enough games, but I thought for sure they'd pick him.
- Aug 20, 2010
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Jackson has the most coaches votes of any ruck
Jackson over Gawn seems very strange
De Goey has been very good, but AA squad good? Not sure about that
De Goey has been very good, but AA squad good? Not sure about that
- May 24, 2011
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Doesn’t help having Kane cornes on the panel re taranto
eth-dog
Tier 1 WW Player
Let's look at Martin's score involvements per touch compared to other forwards in the top 50 of SI:
Hawkins 66.4%
Walker 60.5%
Larkey 58.8%
C Cameron 58.5%
Curnow 57.7%
Naughton 53.9%
Ugle-Hagan 53.6%
Finlayson 50.5%
Langford 48.4%
J Cameron 47.9%
Greene 45.8%
Lukosius 44.8%
Papley 42.6%
Daniher 41.2%
Rankine 39.9%
Heeney 37.8%
Miers 37.7%
Schultz 34.8%
Martin 32.7%
Bolton 32.2%
Only 19th out of 20. Clearly deserving of AA.
Hawkins 66.4%
Walker 60.5%
Larkey 58.8%
C Cameron 58.5%
Curnow 57.7%
Naughton 53.9%
Ugle-Hagan 53.6%
Finlayson 50.5%
Langford 48.4%
J Cameron 47.9%
Greene 45.8%
Lukosius 44.8%
Papley 42.6%
Daniher 41.2%
Rankine 39.9%
Heeney 37.8%
Miers 37.7%
Schultz 34.8%
Martin 32.7%
Bolton 32.2%
Only 19th out of 20. Clearly deserving of AA.
- Mar 25, 2019
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- Carlton
I watch every game there is and I'd say those are the 6 most accurate reflectors on a KPD's impact on games. What do you disagree with about that?
Do you really give two shites if a KPD has 2% better DE if he can't defend your average local auskicker? Metres gained? Handballs? Just a bunch of rubbish the rest of it.
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I don't think Taranto should be in the 22 but missing the squad? lol
Kings of Lygon
All Australian
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It's subjective of course.
I just wouldn't have had him in the best 3 rucks for the year, doubt he makes the final team.
- May 24, 2011
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More hawthorn players in the squad than Melbourne players. Bizarre
Why not? He has the most coaches votes of all rucks and all key forwards.
