CarmenSandiego
All Australian
- Apr 23, 2024
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As a forward, averages:
Less goals
Less score involvements
Less score assists
Less inside 50s
Less tackles inside 50
Less contested marks
Have I missed something?
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re: Daniher vs Cameron. Firstly I don't think Cameron should have made the final 22, in the end he got 9 goals vs an easybeat and the selectors couldn't look past it. However I don't think Daniher would be a better option because of the ruck thing, he averaged 2 hitouts per game. Personally would have put Curnow in Camerons spot and f****d Waterman off for StengleTurned out pretty close. 18/22.
- Swap Whitfield with Blakey on the bench and it was the exact back 6.
- Missed on Serong - I stand by JHF. I think he provides the team more flexibility as he can go forward and beast. As good a season as Serong had, the selectors need to be bolder in leaving out some gun mids. They put Daicos on the wing to accomodate Serong and Daicos would barley have played there all year if at all.
- Missed on Treloar - I went with the extra small in Stengle. Once again when you’ve already got Bontempelli, Cripps, Daicos, Gulden, Serong, Butters, Neale, Warner, Heeney- why do they select another mid? Great season by Treloar but surely for balance they go the small.
- Missed on Waterman - I stand by Curnow being the better option. Feel like his late season form carrying the injury stuck in selectors heads. He still kicked more goals despite being a little down and getting double teamed each week. Every club in the comp would choose Curnow over Waterman and that’s no knock on him as he’s also a great player.
- Missed on J. Cameron - I stand by Daniher as the better choice to be the chop out ruck. Who gives Gawn a chop out in the AA team? Cripps?
Honestly I like my team better than what was selected.
I’d have Dale and Whitfield on the hbfs …. **** Zorko off tooIsn't Blakey notorious for having bags kicked on him? I would take him out.
Hard to argue with the rest of the team. Would've liked to see Dale in there but getting dropped to sub at one point probably cost him (despite it being the rocket for the rest of his seasons form).
Curnow probably finds his way onto a bench too.
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Sheezel was rated ahead of Whitfield at the halfway point of the season AND lead the league in disposals.
Poor reasoning.
Being a small forward is a specialised role, same as being an inside mid or winger.Realistically, if we're chosing the BEST possible team then Moore doesn't make the side as we'd just pick the best available midfielder who can also kick goals.
I don't agree with that for the purposes of the AA side, but if you're picking the best possible team to play then I'd almost certainly pick A midfielder who can also kick goals. Same goes for the wing. Daicos is better than Massimo. For defenders it might be different at least for Houston who could easily be a midfielder but with elite kicking he's suited to the half back.
I'd like to see the AFL do a second AA Side because we're always fighting about the guys who missed out.
Really weird option to bring upDaicos is like Adam Gilchrist in the Australian side before Ian Healy retired.
They already do. They name a squad of 44. The other 22 are your second team.I'd like to see the AFL do a second AA Side because we're always fighting about the guys who missed out.
When you have a FT job as an alleged analyst it's not that much of an askI remember hearing Dwayne Russell talk about this at some point in the year. Someone was criticising him for wasting time watching every game and telling him to get a life. He was saying its literally my job to watch every game every week. How else can you be be paid to talk about football if you dont watch it. Even if he is working or out over a game he has to find the time before the start of the week to finish every game
Sadly its clear that a few watch only the few games they care about and then spend more time focused on the drama
Realistically, if we're chosing the BEST possible team then Moore doesn't make the side as we'd just pick the best available midfielder who can also kick goals.
I don't agree with that for the purposes of the AA side, but if you're picking the best possible team to play then I'd almost certainly pick A midfielder who can also kick goals. Same goes for the wing. Daicos is better than Massimo. For defenders it might be different at least for Houston who could easily be a midfielder but with elite kicking he's suited to the half back.
I'd like to see the AFL do a second AA Side because we're always fighting about the guys who missed out.
Realistically, if we're chosing the BEST possible team then Moore doesn't make the side as we'd just pick the best available midfielder who can also kick goals.
I don't agree with that for the purposes of the AA side, but if you're picking the best possible team to play then I'd almost certainly pick A midfielder who can also kick goals. Same goes for the wing. Daicos is better than Massimo. For defenders it might be different at least for Houston who could easily be a midfielder but with elite kicking he's suited to the half back.
I'd like to see the AFL do a second AA Side because we're always fighting about the guys who missed out.
Ben Keays! Sort of joking but he actually was close to elite this year as a forward. What was Nathan Browns transition like? was it forward to mid to forward, I can not remember? Ryan Okeefe?Just to further my above point with some examples...
Here are some players in the 2000's that began as great midfielders that were also dominant when transitioned to a half back flank: Andrew McLeod, Nigel Lappin, Matthew Boyd, Luke Hodge, Sam Mitchell (1 season on a half back flank in his 30's when he injured his shoulder and was AA), Scott Pendlebury, now Dayne Zorko and heaps more. If you were to pick the team of the 2000's, you might have 2 former midfielders sitting on the halfback flanks (McLeod and Hodge).
Now try and make a list of all the players in the 2000's that started as out and out mids and transitioned to be elite forwards. THe list is very short - Toby Greene is one (though he moved very young) - who else? Not Dusty (he was always a mid/fwd that maintained the same approximate ratio throughout - never permanently moving forward or kicking 40 goals in a year). Not Robbie Gray who started as a fwd. You'd probably have to go back to Jarman in the 90's to find another good example.
On the evidence, you'd be confident picking the gun mids at half back and assuming an upgrade. Not so much for a forward pocket.
Odd comment mate. Given these guys commentate footy through out the weekend which would result in a lot of commute time, flights, hotels. Then add in panel shows and instances where games overlap each other I don't think there'd be a single AA selector that would watch every game.When I heard Bucks and conesy say one morning they don’t watch every game I was shocked.
- Missed on J. Cameron - I stand by Daniher as the better choice to be the chop out ruck. Who gives Gawn a chop out in the AA team? Cripps?
People that it’s their profession shouldOdd comment mate. Given these guys commentate footy through out the weekend which would result in a lot of commute time, flights, hotels. Then add in panel shows and instances where games overlap each other I don't think there'd be a single AA selector that would watch every game.
If you are working for Fox there aren't in flights. I can understand not watching all games by Monday but if you want to be a selector by the end of the week they should have watched at least 7 if not all of them. Should never go 2 weeks in a row without watching a teamOdd comment mate. Given these guys commentate footy through out the weekend which would result in a lot of commute time, flights, hotels. Then add in panel shows and instances where games overlap each other I don't think there'd be a single AA selector that would watch every game.
Do NBA analysts watch all 81 games for 30 teams? What about MLB and 30 X 161 games?If you are working for Fox there aren't in flights. I can understand not watching all games by Monday but if you want to be a selector by the end of the week they should have watched at least 7 if not all of them. Should never go 2 weeks in a row without watching a team
Rozee and Butters would be 40 goal forwards if they played exclusively in fwd 50Just to further my above point with some examples...
Here are some players in the 2000's that began as great midfielders that were also dominant when transitioned to a half back flank: Andrew McLeod, Nigel Lappin, Matthew Boyd, Luke Hodge, Sam Mitchell (1 season on a half back flank in his 30's when he injured his shoulder and was AA), Scott Pendlebury, now Dayne Zorko and heaps more. If you were to pick the team of the 2000's, you might have 2 former midfielders sitting on the halfback flanks (McLeod and Hodge).
Now try and make a list of all the players in the 2000's that started as out and out mids and transitioned to be elite forwards. THe list is very short - Toby Greene is one (though he moved very young) - who else? Not Dusty (he was always a mid/fwd that maintained the same approximate ratio throughout - never permanently moving forward or kicking 40 goals in a year). Not Robbie Gray who started as a fwd. You'd probably have to go back to Jarman in the 90's to find another good example.
On the evidence, you'd be confident picking the gun mids at half back and assuming an upgrade. Not so much for a forward pocket.
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Glad he made it, so I'm nitpicking, but Dylan Moore being named in a forward pocket due to being the only small selected doesn't really make sense either.
He's the best high half forward flanker in the game. Should have been reflected by being chosen there.
That’s 2xAA 1xBNFAgree, Moore half forward, Stengle forward pocket is what I think they should have done.
But picking Ryan was worse.
Is Zorko the oldest player to have been selected?