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83,578 for Melbourne vs Collingwood

Who would’ve picked Essendon-Carlton outdrawing the Big Freeze game? Certainly not me.

Not many people but never underestimate the drawing power of Carlton & Essendon. Kings Birthday Eve has officially arrived ladies & gentlemen! Let the fun begin!


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Round 13 #AFLCrowds totalled 347,643 at an average of 43,445 per match (up 7.28% on R13 2022) an an average capacity of 65% This season crowds have reached 4.203m at an average of 36,871 per game (up 19% YoY) and an average capacity of 63%

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Moving from Friday night to Sunday night was the difference between drawing 83,000 and 65,000 in Round 13 despite terrible Blues form and being a Carlton home game.

Todays Dees/Pies crowd of 83,578 is the 8th #AFLcrowd this seasonto reach over 80,000 - a new record, beating 2011 & 2013 - and the 10th crowd this season over 70,000 (rec is 12 in 2011) - and its only round 13. In 2022, only 3 matches in the H&A season had 80k+, and 9 over 70k.

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The fully ticketed events are not as full as games with GA seats for ga members. They are the people who bring the massive crowds. There would be thousands of Melbourne GA members who would normally have gone and sat GA. It’s why Anzac Eve was bigger than today. Collingwoods reserved seats in the Ponsford also never seem to be full especially on level 4.

Our reserved seats areas were full again, would have been over a 90% turn up.
 
Not many people but never underestimate the drawing power of Carlton & Essendon. Kings Birthday Eve has officially arrived ladies & gentlemen! Let the fun begin!

If this Kings Birthday Eve game becomes regular, it should on average be the 2nd biggest game of the year behind Anzac Day. Anzac Day is the first and second biggest Victorian clubs, while Ess v Carl is the 2nd and 3rd biggest clubs, so it should outdraw everything bar Anzac Day, on average.

Coll-Melb is the biggest and 2nd-smallest vic clubs, so it will generally only get over 80,000 when the Demons are in the top 4.

Ess-Carl on a public holiday (or eve) is quite capable of drawing 90,000+ given the right circumstances.
 
When gws were top of the ladder the bad fixture excuse was still being rolled out. They have also had the Demons down there when they were dominating the competition still no one showed.
The demons game you are thinking of was only announced a week in advance so that is why it only got 8,700, but the times Melbourne played there it got around 13,000.
 
If this Kings Birthday Eve game becomes regular, it should on average be the 2nd biggest game of the year behind Anzac Day. Anzac Day is the first and second biggest Victorian clubs, while Ess v Carl is the 2nd and 3rd biggest clubs, so it should outdraw everything bar Anzac Day, on average.

Coll-Melb is the biggest and 2nd-smallest vic clubs, so it will generally only get over 80,000 when the Demons are in the top 4.

Ess-Carl on a public holiday (or eve) is quite capable of drawing 90,000+ given the right circumstances.
Generally agree,couple things I would challenge I would have Melb above dogs into 8th biggest vic club, I hope we do,but Rich Carlton round one COULD be second highest ave with kings eve third, I think Carlton, rich are pretty close for 3rd spot vic☺️ plus being first game takes form out of it a bit.
 
Generally agree,couple things I would challenge I would have Melb above dogs into 8th biggest vic club, I hope we do,but Rich Carlton round one COULD be second highest ave with kings eve third, I think Carlton, rich are pretty close for 3rd spot vic☺️ plus being first game takes form out of it a bit.
Biggest Vic clubs
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2. Preston Makedonia
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4. Heidelberg United Alexander
Let's end it there.
 
If this Kings Birthday Eve game becomes regular, it should on average be the 2nd biggest game of the year behind Anzac Day. Anzac Day is the first and second biggest Victorian clubs, while Ess v Carl is the 2nd and 3rd biggest clubs, so it should outdraw everything bar Anzac Day, on average.

Coll-Melb is the biggest and 2nd-smallest vic clubs, so it will generally only get over 80,000 when the Demons are in the top 4.

Ess-Carl on a public holiday (or eve) is quite capable of drawing 90,000+ given the right circumstances.

Dreamtime.
 
I'd back Round 1 vs Richmond over Kings Eve due to possible bad weather and ladder position.

Exactly!

More likely the top 3 crowds would be in this order.
1) Anzac Day - Pies V Bombers
2) RD 1 - Rich V Carl
3) Dreamtime Rich V Ess

And throw a blanket on the below 3 games which could be 4th highest depending on ladder position, weather, etc
Anzac Day Eve - Melb V Rich, Kings Birthday Pies V Dees, and Kings Birthday Eve Carl V Ess
 

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Generally agree,couple things I would challenge I would have Melb above dogs into 8th biggest vic club, I hope we do,but Rich Carlton round one COULD be second highest ave with kings eve third, I think Carlton, rich are pretty close for 3rd spot vic☺️ plus being first game takes form out of it a bit.

I would have Melbourne a head of st.kilda. They have more members and draw bigger crowds. Melbourne have drawn over 80,000 during the home and away season on 10 occasions in their history. The saints on the other hand have only done it twice in 1992 and 2010 against collingwood with there biggest home and away attendance being 81,000 in 2010!

In terms of big 4;

Collingwood have achieved over 80,000 during the home and away season 68 times

Essendon 36

Carlton 23

Richmond 20
 
Dreamtime is just on a regular Saturday night. It’s not on a public holiday.

A public holiday (or eve) match between Essendon and Carlton is clearly a bigger potential draw. A public holiday adds 15-20% to the crowd. The match on Sunday drew more than the Dreamtime game despite Carlton having had 5 consecutive losses.

Essendon vs Carlton, all things being equal should theoretically be the 2nd biggest crowd drawing game, because the two clubs are 2nd and 3rd in supporter base size. Add in a public holiday and that is accentuated even further. It drew more than the top-of-the-table Melb-Coll match despite being 6th vs 15th!
 
The crowd at the G for Melbourne v Collingwood seemed quite strange for a ‘sellout’. The MCC areas of level 4 was only around 75% full, the top of the Shane Warne, Ponsford and Olympic Stands the same. The Melbourne home members on Level 1 Olympic stand was quite sparse as well (from the naked eye, the Carlton members areas were utilised more on Sunday night). I’d love a solution to solve this issue, because we all want crowds of 90+ to be the norm when a game is deemed a sellout.
 
I’d love a solution to solve this issue, because we all want crowds of 90+ to be the norm when a game is deemed a sellout.

How do you do that though?

Give more seats to general public and cut club/afl members allocations a fraction and they have to sign up- certain amount and first in first served.
 
How do you do that though?

Give more seats to general public and cut club/afl members allocations a fraction and they have to sign up- certain amount and first in first served.
In todays technological world, clubs membership departments could send out emails to club members a week before a match and members need to tick a box whether they would be attending or not. If no box is ticked by say 2/3 days before the match, then those seats will be given to the general public. It’s not something they will ever do, but just a thought.
 
In todays technological world, clubs membership departments could send out emails to club members a week before a match and members need to tick a box whether they would be attending or not. If no box is ticked by say 2/3 days before the match, then those seats will be given to the general public. It’s not something they will ever do, but just a thought.

Like it. Should be done.
 
In todays technological world, clubs membership departments could send out emails to club members a week before a match and members need to tick a box whether they would be attending or not. If no box is ticked by say 2/3 days before the match, then those seats will be given to the general public. It’s not something they will ever do, but just a thought.
Maybe when we get to the point all games are sold out in Melbourne that will be something that can be done
 
In todays technological world, clubs membership departments could send out emails to club members a week before a match and members need to tick a box whether they would be attending or not. If no box is ticked by say 2/3 days before the match, then those seats will be given to the general public. It’s not something they will ever do, but just a thought.

I like this idea, but Essendon did it a few years back and you ended up sitting in the members reserved seat area which you pay about $800 per season for, next to some opposition supporting scumbag as a one off.

Some of the appeal of the reserved seat is you are in an 'Essendon section' for example and know the people around you. The opposition club intruders was why most clubs stopped it, because members were getting annoyed.

You could maybe reserve the buy back seats for only lower level members of the same club, that might be more well recieved.
 
Generally agree,couple things I would challenge I would have Melb above dogs into 8th biggest vic club, I hope we do,but Rich Carlton round one COULD be second highest ave with kings eve third, I think Carlton, rich are pretty close for 3rd spot vic☺️ plus being first game takes form out of it a bit.
I would have Melbourne a head of st.kilda. They have more members and draw bigger crowds. Melbourne have drawn over 80,000 during the home and away season on 10 occasions in their history. The saints on the other hand have only done it twice in 1992 and 2010 against collingwood with there biggest home and away attendance being 81,000 in 2010!

In terms of big 4;

Collingwood have achieved over 80,000 during the home and away season 68 times

Essendon 36

Carlton 23

Richmond 20
Maybe we're about even idk, but insults me if anyone says that the doggies are bigger than the dees lol

Im probanly biased, but I'd have us bigger than the saints too. I get that the MCG helps our crowd average, but just in general we've been apart of some huge crowds that the Saints have never had.
But it's even games against the smaller interstate clubs (Freo, Port , GWS, GC ) where we've outdrawn them. For example, this year the Saints got a record crowd of 25k against Port, whereas we've beaten that multiple times with our best being 38k in 2019.
 
Some intriguing fixtures this week at the home of football. Blues fans definitely are not happy and that will affect the crowd number. Tigers have won a couple games in a row and Saints are up and bout in 2023. Could be a 50,000 crowd possibly!

Carlton v Gold Coast @ MCG = 27-30 k

Richmond v St Kilda @ MCG = 47-50 k
 
The crowd at the G for Melbourne v Collingwood seemed quite strange for a ‘sellout’. The MCC areas of level 4 was only around 75% full, the top of the Shane Warne, Ponsford and Olympic Stands the same. The Melbourne home members on Level 1 Olympic stand was quite sparse as well (from the naked eye, the Carlton members areas were utilised more on Sunday night). I’d love a solution to solve this issue, because we all want crowds of 90+ to be the norm when a game is deemed a sellout.
Remember it was a Melbourne home game and that would cost at least 5000 compared to it being a Collingwood home match!
 
Some intriguing fixtures this week at the home of football. Blues fans definitely are not happy and that will affect the crowd number. Tigers have won a couple games in a row and Saints are up and bout in 2023. Could be a 50,000 crowd possibly!

Carlton v Gold Coast @ MCG = 27-30 k

Richmond v St Kilda @ MCG = 47-50 k
Then again the Blues fans might think they have a chance against the GC = hope springs eternal!
 

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