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2023 Crowds and TV/Streaming
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Bjo187
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I think I am starting to agree with this now. I always thought the saints were slightly bigger but Melbourne are beating them comfortably.
And it was St Kilda Home game.
I’d be thinking 60K.
We bring 40K, they bring 20K and let’s see what the neutrals can provide.
Providing weather, should be a ripper.
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Worst crowd of the season imo.
Melbourne winning the premiership in 2021 and being contenders for the last three years have made then bigger then saint kilda. Also Melbourne have played in front over 80,000 people 10 times in their history to saint kilda only twice in 1992 and 2010 against collingwood. Western bulldogs and north Melbourne have never played in front of 80,000 people during the home and away season. Norths biggest crowds were against Collingwood in 1994 as both games that year drew 72,000 and the bulldog’s biggest home and away crowd was 68,000 v Richmond in 1967 and also another 68,000 in 1998 v north Melbourne as they were 1st v 2nd in round 22. Good crowd tho for the 2 smallest Victorian clubs
Melbourne are not as big as hawthorn and Geelong. Peak hawthorn and Geelong can draw around 40,000 of the own fans to the mcg. Melbourne are about 10,000 behind the cats and hawks.
Melbourne will Ave around 30,000 when in the top 4.
Bulldogs and saints 25,000
And north 20,000.
This is just my opinion
Also in membership as well. Melbourne have 67k members to saint kilda 62k.
If Melbourne make the gf they will break 70k next year.
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It's a bit rough that our drought breaking year was during Covid, we'll never know what number we could've had.
And then on top of that, our reigning premier year still having that lingering covid effect (which was affecting the whole league). 2022 didn't start feeling right until the end of the year
This year and 2018 are really the only years where we've been a top 8 side with non covid affected crowds since the mid 2000s. And the crowds have been fairly solid imo
And then on top of that, our reigning premier year still having that lingering covid effect (which was affecting the whole league). 2022 didn't start feeling right until the end of the year
This year and 2018 are really the only years where we've been a top 8 side with non covid affected crowds since the mid 2000s. And the crowds have been fairly solid imo
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I think a minimum of 25,000 is an overestimation.
The same fixture in Round 8 (with North being the home team) got 22,065. I think a crowd similar to this would have been reasonable.
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After Round 19 (excluding Gather Round).
Home Crowd Average:
H&A Crowd Average
Home Crowd Average:
- Collingwood = 64,599
- Richmond = 50,419
- Carlton = 50,300
- Essendon = 46,284
- Fremantle = 45,429
- Melbourne = 44,114
- West Coast = 41,041
- Port Adelaide = 37,582
- Adelaide = 36,813
- Geelong = 35,212
- Hawthorn = 34,425
- Sydney = 31,711
- St Kilda = 31,202
- Western Bulldogs = 30,143
- Brisbane Lions = 28,926
- North Melbourne = 22,346
- Gold Coast = 13,079
- GWS = 9,251
H&A Crowd Average
- Collingwood = 58,852
- Richmond = 50,993
- Essendon = 50,623
- Carlton = 49,967
- Geelong = 39,120
- Melbourne = 38,402
- Fremantle = 37,931
- West Coast = 35,610
- Hawthorn = 35,177
- Port Adelaide = 34,679
- Sydney = 33,912
- Western Bulldogs = 32,294
- Adelaide = 31,924
- St Kilda = 31,380
- Brisbane Lions = 30,044
- North Melbourne = 24,936
- Gold Coast = 19,148
- GWS = 17,202
Fair enough. I'm thinking more along the lines of 45-50K tigers and 20K dees and a few thousand neutrals.
This has a lot more riding on it than yesterday's crowd v Hawks of 58K which I thought was pretty good for 12th v 16th.
When we played the Saints on the Sat night in pouring rain it was 5th v 12th and we got about 63K, it's just a gut feeling but I think it'll be around 70K
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Melbourne’s were boosted relative to the smaller Victorian clubs, by the Anzac Eve and King’s Birthday matches?
Membership is influenced by on field form. It’s not a reliable indicator, especially in this instance. Melbourne won the flag in 2021, its membership lifted from ~54,000 to ~67,000. St Kilda, no in field success trailing just (62,000). Membership isn’t reliable.
It’s difficult to compare supporter base size for clubs in a similar zone, membership and crowds comparisons for these two clubs in particular can’t should be compared with great caution. More interesting and reliable would’ve been to compare these two clubs across a decade as an average perhaps, pre 2021. However, Melbourne unlike St Kilda get the lift in crowds by playing Collingwood / Richmond in public holiday prime slots. And they play games at the MCG.
FWIW, gut feel with the eye test, these clubs would be almost identical, I’d have the Saints possibly just in front.
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Home and Away attendance for the 2023 Toyota AFL Premiership Season continues to be on record pace as 5,811,157 fans have attended the opening 19 rounds.
This is the highest attended AFL Rounds 1 –19 on record, 96,922 attendees more than previous record (5,714,235 in 2008).
Source: AFL PR
And completely offset by a 3,000 crowd in Alice springs.
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I tried to get a ticket over a week ago. Gonski.
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Really dubious that Melbourne are any bigger than St Kilda or the Dogs.
You really can't draw conclusions from a period where a team has spent 3 years in the top 4.
St Kilda had one year averaging below 35K at the Docklands between 2004 and 2011
You really can't draw conclusions from a period where a team has spent 3 years in the top 4.
St Kilda had one year averaging below 35K at the Docklands between 2004 and 2011
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Attendance averages and memberships
for saints and Dees
for saints and Dees2014-2017 is the best comparison because the clubs were at exactly the same spot after painful rebuilds. They were both 10-12 sides in 2016 and 7th and 8th going into a round 21 clash in 2017 which drew 53K. So no surprises that the crowd sizes are neck and neck at that point. Its equally no surprise that when one side is shit and the other fighting for flags the large differences appear.
Could argue either way which club is bigger but can safely say that both fanbases are some of the most loyal given the horrible 5 decades they have had.
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Not really. St Kilda were in the doldrums off the back of an ultimately premiershipless era of contending. Melbourne were emerging from a decade in the doldrums.
And also the Dee’s play a couple of their bigger games at a stadium that holds much more than Marvel, the Kings Bday game being the public holiday. Given the Saints are constrained by Marvel, these little subtle variations prove to be decisive factors in explaining the gap between these sides imo.
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Yep, the Saints (and the dogs and north) play all their games against the big Melbourne clubs at the MCG (unlike Essendon and Carlton). This puts them at significant disadvantage in comparisons to Melbourne.
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Pleasing to see that as of the end of this upcoming weekend around two thirds of all clubs will have already passed their total attendance from last year.
Essendon, Geelong, Gold Coast and Port Adelaide have already done so and this week Adelaide, Collingwood, Hawthorn (maybe), North, Richmond, St Kilda, West Coast and the Bulldogs should all join them.
The remaining teams should get there over the next couple of weeks, with only GWS taking until the final game.
I know 2022 was very much a down year for crowds with the Covid hangover, but it is notable that the 1944 season is so far the only one in history where every single team increased their crowds from the year before. We're almost certain to add 2023 to that.
Essendon, Geelong, Gold Coast and Port Adelaide have already done so and this week Adelaide, Collingwood, Hawthorn (maybe), North, Richmond, St Kilda, West Coast and the Bulldogs should all join them.
The remaining teams should get there over the next couple of weeks, with only GWS taking until the final game.
I know 2022 was very much a down year for crowds with the Covid hangover, but it is notable that the 1944 season is so far the only one in history where every single team increased their crowds from the year before. We're almost certain to add 2023 to that.
Richmond going hard on Sunday.
100K members recognition round.
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-GA members bring a mate for free.
Probably helps that Collingwood and Carlton is a sell out too and will push the neutrals to this game.
Has a bit of a blockbuster feel to it.
Maybe it is a 70K roll out.
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100K members recognition round.
-20% off Level 1 seats for members.
-GA members bring a mate for free.
Probably helps that Collingwood and Carlton is a sell out too and will push the neutrals to this game.
Has a bit of a blockbuster feel to it.
Maybe it is a 70K roll out.
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