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Anyone want to sanity check my loose plan (which will probably have to change due to injury/spudding it up) for this week and the next couple? A little windy, but think it gets me where I want to go.

Current Context:
118k banked, 21 green dots this week pre-trades (Atkins included)
Post bye best 22 weak links:
D5: Himmelberg, D6: Atkins (Wilmot D7)
M7: Ashcroft, M8: Wardlaw (Johnson M8)
F6: Keays (Humphrey F7)

This weeks trades: (leaves 224k for next week)
T1: Cincotta -> Robertson (+92k)
T2: Uwland -> Sheldrick (+34k)
T3: JVR -> Fyfe (-20k)

Also giving serious consideration to Joel Jeffrey this week for a few reasons that are more mad professor stuff, but I reckon hold up.

Logic: Would leave me with 23 green dots this week (but a 0 in defence, only 21 onfield). Would loop Robertson & Sheldrick tomorrow night, and pending their results, 1-3 of Johnson, Fyfe, Humphrey on field. So don't feel at a disadvantage with the 21.

Next week: entering with 22 green dots (Chesser, Sheldrick, Atkins, Robertson included)
T1: Wardlaw -> Darcy Cameron with the banked cash,
T2: Atkins -> Yeo for about 65k, which I'd fund by going either
T3: Chesser to a basement or worst case Johnson/Fyfe/Dev/Ashcroft/Himmelberg/Humper down to someone who offered more value at the time. But ideally a defender

Would mean next week I'd be running with these weak links
D5: Yeo, D6: Himmelberg (D7: Wilmot, D8: Basement rook)
M8: Ashcroft (M9: Fyfe, M10: Johnson)
F5: Darcy Cameron, F6: Keays (F7: Humphrey, F8: Robertson, Utility: Sheldrick)

Round 16: Probably turn Ashcroft into Oliver for round 16 via one of the above bench guys down and then hopefully have so much cash/utility on the bench that incrementally turning weak links into premiums should be easy.

Concerns:
- Am I going too hard on 'mid pricers' like Yeo, Darcy Cam, Fyfe, Robertson? Especially having HH, Ashcroft and Keays already? Does the 22 post-bye have too much cash on the bench with Fyfe, Humper, Johnson, Dev etc.? - should I just go and get a premium? This 'strategy' is motivated in part by not really liking any of the premiums available to me this week.

- I'm already thin in defence, and if I go Cincotta out, I'll only have 8 defender eligible players in the squad. So if I want to trade out (or downgrade) Wilmot/Atkins/Himmelberg types, I'll need to do it for a defender which might be a bit of a handicap.

Cheers guys, appreciate it if anyone gets through that. Any thoughts would be great.
 
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Skippos said:
Can't help but feel if a 22 year old, 199cm, well built KPF is good enough to get a contract extension within a couple of weeks of joining the club, and making his debut, it's absolute madness that every club passed on the opportunity to get him in the MSD.

He might have better J/S than Sheldrick, but surely as an inexperienced KPF you'd think he's both a sub risk and probably a 40ppg guy or so?
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absolute madness that every club passed

Insert Eagles here
Local boy + youth + Darling + injuries
Fork me backwards 😩
 

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Skippos said:
Anyone want to sanity check my loose plan (which will probably have to change due to injury/spudding it up) for this week and the next couple? A little windy, but think it gets me where I want to go.

Current Context:
118k banked, 21 green dots this week pre-trades (Atkins included)
Post bye best 22 weak links:
D5: Himmelberg, D6: Atkins (Wilmot D7)
M7: Ashcroft, M8: Wardlaw (Johnson M8)
F6: Keays (Humphrey F7)

This weeks trades: (leaves 224k for next week)
T1: Cincotta -> Robertson (+92k)
T2: Uwland -> Sheldrick (+34k)
T3: JVR -> Fyfe (-20k)

Logic: Would leave me with 23 green dots this week (but a 0 in defence, only 21 onfield). Would loop Robertson & Sheldrick tomorrow night, and pending their results, 1-3 of Johnson, Fyfe, Humphrey on field. So don't feel at a disadvantage with the 21.

Next week: entering with 22 green dots (Chesser, Sheldrick, Atkins, Robertson included)
T1: Wardlaw -> Darcy Cameron with the banked cash,
T2: Atkins -> Yeo for about 65k, which I'd fund by going either
T3: Chesser to a basement or worst case Johnson/Fyfe/Dev/Ashcroft/Himmelberg/Humper down to someone who offered more value at the time. But ideally a defender

Would mean next week I'd be running with these weak links
D5: Yeo, D6: Himmelberg (D7: Wilmot, D8: Basement rook)
M8: Ashcroft (M9: Fyfe, M10: Johnson)
F5: Darcy Cameron, F6: Keays (F7: Humphrey, F8: Robertson, Utility: Sheldrick)

Round 16: Probably turn Ashcroft into Oliver for round 16 via one of the above bench guys down and then hopefully have so much cash/utility on the bench that incrementally turning weak links into premiums should be easy.

Concerns:
- Am I going too hard on 'mid pricers' like Yeo, Darcy Cam, Fyfe, Robertson? Especially having HH, Ashcroft and Keays already? Does the 22 post-bye have too much cash on the bench with Fyfe, Humper, Johnson, Dev etc.? - should I just go and get a premium? This 'strategy' is motivated in part by not really liking any of the premiums available to me this week.

- I'm already thin in defence, and if I go Cincotta out, I'll only have 8 defender eligible players in the squad. So if I want to trade out (or downgrade) Wilmot/Atkins/Himmelberg types, I'll need to do it for a defender which might be a bit of a handicap.

Cheers guys, appreciate it if anyone gets through that. Any thoughts would be great.
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Like I see nothing wrong with your plan, not everyone is gonna have full premo teams come end of byes.
 
Exambolor said:
Another rookie for next week, Jaspa Fletcher to debut, $278k so does have the high draft pick tax however

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Can anyone sell me this bloke?

For some reason I like this kid a lot. Never seen him play, think I saw he was compared to Noah Anderson by someone and it’s stuck with me
 
RowellAnderson12 said:
Can anyone sell me this bloke?

For some reason I like this kid a lot. Never seen him play, think I saw he was compared to Noah Anderson by someone and it’s stuck with me
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Probably means curtains for Harry Sharp. Might be debuting as sub with Coleman into the 22 for Rich? Wilmot already moved back so not like that's the replacement.

Fantasy numbers haven't been great this year & think he'll be a wingman up front, which with how Brisbane have been playing is a pretty low scoring role. I'd want a look first.
 
Skippos said:
Probably means curtains for Harry Sharp. Might be debuting as sub with Coleman into the 22 for Rich? Wilmot already moved back so not like that's the replacement.

Fantasy numbers haven't been great this year & think he'll be a wingman up front, which with how Brisbane have been playing is a pretty low scoring role. I'd want a look first.
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Yeah my hopes of keeping Sharp after seeing the Rich news have been dashed in just a few hours.

Pending teams disasters, I'll be sticking with this. 3 people not playing this week for 3 people playing this week and ca$h to burn next week

Gives me 23 available this week, 17 next week pre-trades which I should be able to turn into 20. Will it be a good 20? Probably not but I decided to go with the strategy of not ditching any of my 8 round 15 premos to try and have a much more solid side coming out of the byes (19 premos) than I started it with (14 premos).

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Skippos said:
Probably means curtains for Harry Sharp. Might be debuting as sub with Coleman into the 22 for Rich? Wilmot already moved back so not like that's the replacement.

Fantasy numbers haven't been great this year & think he'll be a wingman up front, which with how Brisbane have been playing is a pretty low scoring role. I'd want a look first.
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I don’t own Sharp so don’t have that problem

Think Fletcher would go on the wing for Mccluggage

If he has has skipped Ah Chee, Prior and defs Sharp.

Dev Fletcher Berry wings
 
Skippos said:
Probably means curtains for Harry Sharp. Might be debuting as sub with Coleman into the 22 for Rich? Wilmot already moved back so not like that's the replacement.

Fantasy numbers haven't been great this year & think he'll be a wingman up front, which with how Brisbane have been playing is a pretty low scoring role. I'd want a look first.
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Fletcher is starting on the wing.
 
Currently
Seamus Mitchell > Dev Robertson
Will Day > Tom Stewart
Ben Hobbs > Lachie Neale

Can't decide between Stewart and Sinclair for that spot. Think I'll have 21 playing with Mullin out, possible outs would be Cincotta and maybe Sheldrick but rest are pretty safe.
 
Skippos said:
Concerns:
- Am I going too hard on 'mid pricers' like Yeo, Darcy Cam, Fyfe, Robertson? Especially having HH, Ashcroft and Keays already? Does the 22 post-bye have too much cash on the bench with Fyfe, Humper, Johnson, Dev etc.? - should I just go and get a premium? This 'strategy' is motivated in part by not really liking any of the premiums available to me this week.

- I'm already thin in defence, and if I go Cincotta out, I'll only have 8 defender eligible players in the squad. So if I want to trade out (or downgrade) Wilmot/Atkins/Himmelberg types, I'll need to do it for a defender which might be a bit of a handicap.

Cheers guys, appreciate it if anyone gets through that. Any thoughts would be great.
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It's always interesting .....does an average mid-pricer score better than a good rookie .....and does getting a mid-pricer, impact your ability / timing to get top 6-8 in each zone

Yes, I think post byes having too much cash on your bench is a negative .....you can trade to cover weekly outs

Darcy C, provides Ruck coverage :whitecheck:
Yeo, with another rest via the bye :whitecheck:
Keays, could hold the role, in which case he's a fwd hold :whitecheck: .....I'd put him in the same role query as Himmelberg

Fyfe is a risky pick
Himmelberg is a risky pick, because the Coach won't commit to his DEF role
Cincotta is an easy out ....Dev has dubious JS

My strategy is to have my final zone picks ....Cameron, Yeo @ F6 and D6
 

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RowellAnderson12 said:
I don’t own Sharp so don’t have that problem

Think Fletcher would go on the wing for Mccluggage

If he has has skipped Ah Chee, Prior and defs Sharp.

Dev Fletcher Berry wings
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As our Suns man, what do you think about Jeffrey?

I liked what I saw with the eye test, and while scores haven't been amazing, the failed forward turned defender is a pretty common recipe for improvement both IRL & in fantasy.

Given you guys averaged 110 less fantasy points in Darwin than outside of it, and 32 less marks (so nearly all of the lost points were lower mark counts), and he's playing as a marking type behind the ball, you reckon he could be a little better than the 61/75 he's put up?
 
Exambolor said:
Like I see nothing wrong with your plan, not everyone is gonna have full premo teams come end of byes.
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I've just done my round 16 team projection ... somehow have the exact same number of rookies left on field. THREE!
lol
I'll post it now ...
 
Farout .... after all the wheeling and dealing and planning and crying ... I started R12 with 3 onfield rookies (4 incl. sheez) and looks like I finish R15 bye with THREE. Treading water for 4 weeks apparently! Man i'm tired!

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WaynesWorld19 said:
It's always interesting .....does an average mid-pricer score better than a good rookie .....and does getting a mid-pricer, impact your ability / timing to get top 6-8 in each zone

Yes, I think post byes having too much cash on your bench is a negative .....you can trade to cover weekly outs

Darcy C, provides Ruck coverage :whitecheck:
Yeo, with another rest via the bye :whitecheck:
Keays, could hold the role, in which case he's a fwd hold :whitecheck: .....I'd put him in the same role query as Himmelberg

Fyfe is a risky pick
Himmelberg is a risky pick, because the Coach won't commit to his DEF role
Cincotta is an easy out ....Dev has dubious JS

My strategy is to have my final zone picks ....Cameron, Yeo @ F6 and D6
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Yeah, I think Cameron F6 Yeo D6 is the play, just for me the concern is that at least temporarily I'd be having Himmelberg/Keays too. Which may not be the right play.

That said, not sure how I'd modify my intended trades to avoid having cash on the bench.

Maybe instead Dev Rob go to Buller/Fahey, then put that cash along with the banked cash on Fyfe to get someone 783k or less? Best options there are Danger, Nasiah, Luke Jackson, Jeremy Cameron, Duncan, Heeney - none of which appeal. Or lose Chesser instead of Uwland to get Lloyd, Ryan or Young. Or lose Atkins instead of Cincotta to get to Serong or Crouch. That might be the play, which makes holding Atkins very silly.

So options are really

Sheldrick, Fahey, NWM & 31k
or
Sheldrick, Robertson, Fyfe & 224k
or
Sheldrick, Robertson, Serong & 1k (lose Atkins, keep Cincotta)
 
Skippos said:
Or lose Chesser instead of Uwland to get Lloyd, Ryan or Young. Or lose Atkins instead of Cincotta to get to Serong or Crouch. That might be the play, which makes holding Atkins very silly.
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Or lose Chesser instead of Uwland to get Lloyd ....don't think holding Chesser is an advantage, if it stops you trading in your preferred player

I'm only holding Atkins one more week, due to the Byes ......then he gets upgraded
My other rookies, apart from Wardlaw, have to go first .....it was Bergman this week ....Cincotta next week, to fund the Atkins upgrade
 
Skippos said:
As our Suns man, what do you think about Jeffrey?

I liked what I saw with the eye test, and while scores haven't been amazing, the failed forward turned defender is a pretty common recipe for improvement both IRL & in fantasy.

Given you guys averaged 110 less fantasy points in Darwin than outside of it, and 32 less marks (so nearly all of the lost points were lower mark counts), and he's playing as a marking type behind the ball, you reckon he could be a little better than the 61/75 he's put up?
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I suggested Jeffrey earlier this week, i would love to get him in but i need to field defenders so Jeffrey would be my F7 kind of a wasted trade there.

He's a super talent, wouldn't call him a failed forward he's just basically swapped ends with Lukosius.

I reckon he can score 60-80 which is good enough for a cash cow. Only danger is Mac Andrew comes in this week so he'll take his fair share of marks/switches.

Job security is pretty good for the next 2 weeks, Weller won't be back till Pies game. Farrar and Atkins would go before Jeffrey.
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
Or lose Chesser instead of Uwland to get Lloyd ....don't think holding Chesser is an advantage, if it stops you trading in your preferred player

I'm only holding Atkins one more week, due to the Byes ......then he gets upgraded
My other rookies, apart from Wardlaw, have to go first .....it was Bergman this week ....Cincotta next week, to fund the Atkins upgrade
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The extra green dot next week (or chance of it) has some value in retaining if possible, before considering that he might get us another 30-40k.
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
It's always interesting .....does an average mid-pricer score better than a good rookie .....and does getting a mid-pricer, impact your ability / timing to get top 6-8 in each zone

Yes, I think post byes having too much cash on your bench is a negative .....you can trade to cover weekly outs

Darcy C, provides Ruck coverage :whitecheck:
Yeo, with another rest via the bye :whitecheck:
Keays, could hold the role, in which case he's a fwd hold :whitecheck: .....I'd put him in the same role query as Himmelberg

Fyfe is a risky pick
Himmelberg is a risky pick, because the Coach won't commit to his DEF role
Cincotta is an easy out ....Dev has dubious JS

My strategy is to have my final zone picks ....Cameron, Yeo @ F6 and D6
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Counterpoint though is that it has been hard to pin down good targets for these spots.

I’d have thought Steele and Walsh would have been the absolute epitome of consistency, both with role and scoring (hence why both are in my side), but here we are.

Went hard on midfield upgrades because that’s where the ceiling and consistency usually is and it’s backfired.

Down back is a similar problem. You’re better off taking a gamble on Yeo for 200k less than Sinclair, Ryan, Lloyd etc because there doesn’t seem to be any clear cut targets
 
Coasters7 said:
I’d have thought Steele and Walsh would have been the absolute epitome of consistency, both with role and scoring (hence why both are in my side), but here we are.

Went hard on midfield upgrades because that’s where the ceiling and consistency usually is and it’s backfired.
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Same here .....my names in the midfield are impressive, but they consistently fail to deliver against their price ....so my side is losing value, only because of the MIDS

Those who upgraded DEF & FWD first have, IMO, been better off .....plus all the injuries have been predominantly to the MIDS ....that, and MID role changes
 
WaynesWorld19 said:
Those who upgraded DEF & FWD first have, IMO, been better off .....plus all the injuries have been predominantly to the MIDS ....that, and MID role changes
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Depends on your luck still. There have been many injuries/suspensions to the likes of Doch, Day, Sic, Stewart, etc etc
I focused on def and fwd first and my M4 this week is Ashcroft haha. My team is like a sandwich with great bread and no fillings
 
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