Position 2023 Fantasy Rucks

[Barrybran]

They just borrowed Caleb Daniel and were throwing him in the air

Surely they could have just done the same with Jack Ginnivan?

 

[tigs2010]

Surely they could have just done the same with Jack Ginnivan?

They were but the little weasel got himself hurt

 

[11kgm]

Surely they could have just done the same with Jack Ginnivan?

Maybe that's how he fainted got altitude sickness

 

[Phar Ace]

Begg didn’t play either so Cox was against no one lol

That's his best role then the big pelican!

 

[Wrenny]

Marshall and ROB for me with Heath on bench. Thoughts?

 

[Shadow89]

They were but the little weasel got himself hurt

I'm surprised he'd be able to feel any pain, with all those nose beers he's been having

 

[Phar Ace]

Begg didn’t play either so Cox was against no one lol

Just watched the 8-10 minutes match sim highlights - fair dinkum that Cox is some sort of wally. he ought to have carved it up. He had nothing to compete against, and often it was no one quite literally. We he took a contested mark he was in front - say no more. When beside someone he was often out positioned. Not the slightest bit worried Cox is going to steal anything from Cameron, as long as Cameron is fit.

One thing stood out, Bobby Hill is going to be running flank to flank - his link up work was very good and looked alright if named at $374 FWD option

 

[staffa002]

Damm bobby hill is cheap as chips but how much do you think he will average. 65-70 at best. At that point is it better to go with a rook sub 300k who can average close to that. Genuinely curious where people draw the line and would rather take a chance on a rook.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Damm bobby hill is cheap as chips but how much do you think he will average. 65-70 at best. At that point is it better to go with a rook sub 300k who can average close to that. Genuinely curious where people draw the line and would rather take a chance on a rook.

Personally for myself, my line is that when picking anyone in that 350-450k range its that I have to see them having the potential to go at an 80ave. If they are only likely to go 65/70, then I think they may as well just be a rookie and save the cash.

That’s why I currently don’t have Hunt or McKenna as I only see them going at 65-70 and not worth the extra money. Same with Bobby, I don’t see any world where he goes at 70 so he’s not worth the pick IMO.

 

[Barrybran]

Personally for myself, my line is that when picking anyone in that 350-450k range its that I have to see them having the potential to go at an 80ave. If they are only likely to go 65/70, then I think they may as well just be a rookie and save the cash.

That’s why I currently don’t have Hunt or McKenna as I only see them going at 65-70 and not worth the extra money. Same with Bobby, I don’t see any world where he goes at 70 so he’s not worth the pick IMO.

Who under $300k outside of Ginbey and Weddle is going at an average of 65/70 though?

Edit: that should read 45/50 given the price difference. That's a low bar but how many rookie defenders are clearing that regularly?

 

[tigs2010]

Who under $300k outside of Ginbey and Weddle is going at an average of 65/70 though?

Ashcroft and Phillips I’d hope. Few others should go 60 I’d imagine.

 

[11kgm]

Ashcroft and Phillips I’d hope. Few others should go 60 I’d imagine.

I have hopes for Sheezel especially if he plays HBF

 

[staffa002]

Personally for myself, my line is that when picking anyone in that 350-450k range its that I have to see them having the potential to go at an 80ave. If they are only likely to go 65/70, then I think they may as well just be a rookie and save the cash.

That’s why I currently don’t have Hunt or McKenna as I only see them going at 65-70 and not worth the extra money. Same with Bobby, I don’t see any world where he goes at 70 so he’s not worth the pick IMO.

Wow thats a pretty high bar. So in your maths horne francis $550 would have to average 90+ to be worth it. If he went 80 which is like 15 point upside isnt that substantial. Personally i think that 15 points upside is huuge value.

 

[staffa002]

I have hopes for Sheezel especially if he plays HBF

I have found rookies in forward positions do well if they are in strong teams that see the ball up there alot. Like a miers/stengle etc. north wont be getting the ball up there much so i dont see how sheezel averages 60+. Powell and horne francis played forward for north and arguably as good or better players and they barely averaged more.

 

[doubleparked]

Preuss has never played more than 5 consecutive games in his career.

I think when looking at some one like Preuss it comes with the assumption he likely won’t play the full season.

However I would hope he could start strong for 7/8 weeks minimum (coinciding with the Giants great early fixture) and if he goes down, he’s an easy switch to whoever the clear top 2 rucks are at that stage. After all, we have plenty of trades available.

Probably won’t have the stomach to pull the trigger but I think a few risks and PODs are needed.

Between Cameron and Preuss, I see Preuss out scoring him and relatively easily as well. Just have to weight that up with the risk of him potentially going down in the first month if the benefit outweighs the cost. Of course, he could actually get an injury free run and be in the top handful of ruckman for the year.

Currently have English/Marshall. However if I cool on English and think he will have a slower start to the year (still going at 90) and Preuss goes at 100, then it won’t take long for their price to even out and can be a direct trade back.

Or I’ve now completely lost my mind.

The extra money allows me to have 0 onfield defensive rookies (assuming Constable is an option for D6) and move Weddle to the bench as cover which I do like

I think when looking at some one like Preuss it comes with the assumption he likely won’t play the full season.

However I would hope he could start strong for 7/8 weeks minimum (coinciding with the Giants great early fixture) and if he goes down, he’s an easy switch to whoever the clear top 2 rucks are at that stage. After all, we have plenty of trades available.

Probably won’t have the stomach to pull the trigger but I think a few risks and PODs are needed.

Between Cameron and Preuss, I see Preuss out scoring him and relatively easily as well. Just have to weight that up with the risk of him potentially going down in the first month if the benefit outweighs the cost. Of course, he could actually get an injury free run and be in the top handful of ruckman for the year.

Currently have English/Marshall. However if I cool on English and think he will have a slower start to the year (still going at 90) and Preuss goes at 100, then it won’t take long for their price to even out and can be a direct trade back.

Or I’ve now completely lost my mind.

The extra money allows me to have 0 onfield defensive rookies (assuming Constable is an option for D6) and move Weddle to the bench as cover which I do like.

Preuss has never played 5 consecutive games in his career. Big ask to expect him to get to 7-8 imo. Also, if he gets injured/dropped/suspended at the 7-8 week period you’re stuffed because that’s upgrade season and it’ll put you a week behind the rest of the comp

 

[11kgm]

I have found rookies in forward positions do well if they are in strong teams that see the ball up there alot. Like a miers/stengle etc. north wont be getting the ball up there much so i dont see how sheezel averages 60+. Powell and horne francis played forward for north and arguably as good or better players and they barely averaged more.

Most forward rookies are crap apart from Nic Martin

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Preuss has never played more than 5 consecutive games in his career.


Preuss has never played 5 consecutive games in his career. Big ask to expect him to get to 7-8 imo. Also, if he gets injured/dropped/suspended at the 7-8 week period you’re stuffed because that’s upgrade season and it’ll put you a week behind the rest of the comp

Yeah I’ve cooled on Preuss after my moment of madness. I still think he could be a top 3-4 ruckman this year but that’s all dependant on playing more often than not. For those who are braver than me, I think he could be a big win over Cameron if he played the first half of the season straight. I’m sticking with Marshall/English and will do unless we get any further injury updates on either.

Who under $300k outside of Ginbey and Weddle is going at an average of 65/70 though?

Edit: that should read 45/50 given the price difference. That's a low bar but how many rookie defenders are clearing that regularly?

I don’t think any other defensive rookies will really offer much outside of those 2 mentioned. That’s why this year I’m going strong down back with only 1 on field rookie (weddle), with Ginbey in the mids as insurance. Then leaving the safety of Wilmot on the bench and then whoever else is selected for round 1. I’d rather pay up in defence then watch regular 50s and 60s from the likes of Hunt or McKenna when there is plenty of value else where to make that an option.

Wow thats a pretty high bar. So in your maths horne francis $550 would have to average 90+ to be worth it. If he went 80 which is like 15 point upside isnt that substantial. Personally i think that 15 points upside is huuge value.

I don’t think JHF is worth his price this year in fantasy as I don’t see him going 85+. He’s an impact player and still building his tank and craft at a new club now. It took Danger until his 5th season to ave above 70 and for the short term, similarly I don’t see JHF as being on my fantasy radar for another year or two. Especially when someone like Sheed who’s a proven 90 player is only 40k more. This is where I feel that if I’ve saved money by not selecting those other under performing mid pricers who chug along at 65-70, I have options when deciding between these sort of players who may have a points differential of 20-25 points which is an overall win.

 

[11kgm]

 

[Barrybran]

That's not a bold prediction. A bold prediction would be to say they will EXCEED 185 or fall below 160 combined.

My BOLD prediction for this season is that the winner of AFL Fantasy will have the highest score this season.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Collingwood ruckman Darcy Cameron

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Darcy Cameron

Age

29

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

3.5

5star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.7

3star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

is on track to face Carlton on Friday after sitting out last week’s intra-club practice match.

Cameron completed an individual running program on the sidelines last Friday as teammates battled it out at Olympic Park, having been carefully managed in recent weeks following a slight hamstring issue earlier this month.

However, the 27-year-old trained fully on Monday morning as he ramps up his preparation for round 1

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-injury-selection-news-all-the-latest-from-preseason-training/news-story/da798fdbd606115116db30666a003bf8?amp

 

[Mezzoculo]

 

[Phar Ace]

Interesting

 

[Phar Ace]

That's not a bold prediction. A bold prediction would be to say they will EXCEED 185 or fall below 160 combined.

My BOLD prediction for this season is that the winner of AFL Fantasy will have the highest score this season.

I predict the winner of AFL Fantasy will have the highest accumulation or sum of scores, and not the highest score.

 

[Barrybran]

I predict the winner of AFL Fantasy will have the highest accumulation or sum of scores, and not the highest score.

You voted for rookies based on experience, not value, didn't you?

 

[Phar Ace]

You voted for rookies based on experience, not value, didn't you?

Nah, pretty sure i said I doubted it mattered at all in this GAME