List Mgmt. 2023 GWS Giants List Management - Academy, Free Agent, Trade, Draft

[Giant Strides]

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Here's the list of GWS players who are out of contract in 2023 (I'll progressively cross them out as they re-sign):

• Lachie ASH
• Callan WARD (Free Agent)
• Brayden PREUSS
• Tom GREEN
• Finn CALLAGHAN
• Lachlan KEEFFE (Free Agent)
• Jake RICCARDI
• Harry HIMMELBERG (Free Agent)
• Cam FLEETON - delisted (25/9/23)
• Matt FLYNN (Free Agent) - signed by West Coast as an Unrestricted Free Agent
• Xavier O'HALLORAN
• Jack BUCKLEY
• Callum BROWN

Rookie lists:

• Phil DAVIS (Free Agent) - retiring at end of 2023 season
• Jacob WEHR (Free agent)
• Dan LLOYD (Free Agent) - retiring at end of 2023 season
• Cooper HAMILTON
• Wade DERKSEN
• Nick MADDEN (Cat B) - assumed re-signed due to 2 sources of info
• Jason GILBEE (Cat B) - delisted (25/9/23)

Current list sizes (for when we get to list/draft/trade speculation):

• main list = 36 minus 3 (Fleeton, Flynn + Kennedy delisted with a view to be re-selected in the rookie draft)
• rookie A = 6 minus 2 (Davis, Lloyd)
• rookie B = 2 minus 1 (Gilbee)
• total = 44 minus 5

This is the future pick spreadsheet that comes into play only at trade time, as future picks are used in end of season (2023) trading:


Here's the 2023 AFL Academy Squad, so these (roughly) represent the best players for next year as they stand now:

2023 NAB AFL ACADEMY​

NAME	SURNAME	STATE	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
Lachlan	Cabor	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Shellharbour
Nate	Caddy	VIC M	Northern Knights	Yarrambat
Jack	Callinan	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Clarence
Caiden	Cleary	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Sydney University
Daniel	Curtin	WA	Claremont	West Coast
Jack	Delean	SA	South Adelaide	Reynella
Zane	Duursma	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Foster
Mitchell	Edwards	WA	Peel Thunder	South Mandurah
William	Green	VIC M	Northern Knights	Northcote
Riley	Hardeman	WA	Swan Districts	Caversham
William	Lorenz	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Boroondara Hawks
Kane	McAuliffe	SA	North Adelaide	Central Augusta
Colby	McKercher	TAS	Tasmania Devils	Launceston
Ashton	Moir	SA	Glenelg	Plympton
Connor	O'Sullivan	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Albury
William	Patton	SA	West Adelaide	Mitcham
Nathan	Philactides	VIC M	Oakleigh Chargers	Blackburn
Ethan	Read	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
Archer	Reid	VIC C	Gippsland Power	Inverloch-Kongwak
Harley	Reid	VIC C	Bendigo Pioneers	Tongala
Archie	Roberts	VIC M	Sandringham Dragons	Hampton Rovers
Jake	Rogers	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Broadbeach
Ryley	Sanders	TAS	Sandringham Dragons	North Launceston
Cooper	Simpson	VIC C	Dandenong Stingrays	Mount Martha
George	Stevens	VIC C	GWV Rebels	South Warrnambool
Koltyn	Tholstrup	WA	Subiaco	Newtown-Condingup
Orlando	Turner	NT	West Adelaide	South Alice Springs
Jed	Walter	QLD	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
Nick	Watson	VIC M	Eastern Ranges	East Ringwood
Darcy	Wilson	VIC C	Murray Bushrangers	Wangaratta Rovers

Happy speculating for 2023!

EDIT: 11/12/22 - Added Free Agent status to OOC player list
EDIT: 24/2/23 - Crossed out Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

from OOC player list! (Woo Hoo!!) & Added 2023 Coates Talent League Fixture Link
EDIT: 27/2/23 - Crossed out Finn Callaghan from OOC player list! (Woo Hoo Hoo!!!)
EDIT: 27/4/23 - Crossed out Jacob Wehr from OOC player list
EDIT: 10/5/23 - Crossed out Jack Buckley from OOC player list
EDIT: 9/7/23 - Crossed out Callum Brown from OOC player list
EDIT: 18/7/23 - Crossed out Lachie Ash from OOC player list
EDIT: 20/7/23 - Crossed out Xavier O'Halloran from OOC player list
EDIT: 3/8/23 - Crossed out Harry Himmelberg from OOC player list
EDIT: 9/8/23 - Crossed out Wade Derksen from OOC player list
EDIT: 17/8/23 - Noted Dan Lloyd retiring at end of season
EDIT: 19/8/23 - Crossed out Jake Riccardi from OOC player list
EDIT: 28/8/23 - Noted Phil Davis

1

Phil Davis

Age

34

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.7

4star

MG

55.5

1star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

55.5

1star

D

14.0

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

retiring at end of season
EDIT: 25/9/23 - Noted Cam Fleeton & Jason Gilbee delisted
EDIT: 4/10/23 - Noted Flynn, Preuss & Keeffe situations
EDIT: 9/10/23 - Updated Flynn to WCE, removed Preuss from OOC player list
EDIT: 12/10/23 - Updated Madden with 2 sources of information
EDIT: 19/10/23 - Updated Keeffe & Hamilton re-signed
EDIT: 31/10/23 - adjusted main list numbers with Adam Kennedy

40

Adam Kennedy

Age

32

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

245.6

4star

D

1.0

1star

K

1.0

1star

HB

0.0

1star

M

0.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

10.0

1star

D

18.6

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.4

4star

delisting (with a view to be re-selected in rookie draft)

 

[PMBangers]

O'Sullivan's proven versatility is a strength it'd worth noting, his marking would make him a dangerous forward and give us a proper Hogan heir if we trained him as such

 

[captainMyCaptain]

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Assuming if the swans sounded us out about a swap our reply would have been something like this

 

[Giant Strides]

Reporting indicates Norths firming on keeping their picks at #2 & #3. Ball is really in Eagles' court now; go all in on Harley Reid (which is what I expect), or blink and accept a trade for #2 and later first round picks.

AFL Draft: Roos make draft plans 'very loud and clear' with Eagles a step closer to Reid call

The chances of a trade atop the draft board have taken a hit.

www.zerohanger.com

While North Melbourne could still make a move for Pick 1, Kangaroos president Sonja Hood informed members on Friday that list manager Brady Rawlings

Brady Rawlings

Age

43

Ht

184cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.8

3star

has been backed to hold onto both early selections. A "very loud and very clear" message from Hood suggests a trade for Pick 1 is now unlikely.

"On November 20, we'll take five first-round selections into the AFL National Draft to add further weight to our existing raft of recent early draft talent," Hood wrote. "Of those five picks, we'll start with two of the first three selections. So the message to Brady is very loud and very clear – you got us Harry and George last year, and we'd like another couple of those, please."

 

[Orange crush]

Reporting indicates Norths firming on keeping their picks at #2 & #3. Ball is really in Eagles' court now; go all in on Harley Reid (which is what I expect), or blink and accept a trade for #2 and later first round picks.

AFL Draft: Roos make draft plans 'very loud and clear' with Eagles a step closer to Reid call

The chances of a trade atop the draft board have taken a hit.

www.zerohanger.com

While North Melbourne could still make a move for Pick 1, Kangaroos president Sonja Hood informed members on Friday that list manager Brady Rawlings has been backed to hold onto both early selections. A "very loud and very clear" message from Hood suggests a trade for Pick 1 is now unlikely.

"On November 20, we'll take five first-round selections into the AFL National Draft to add further weight to our existing raft of recent early draft talent," Hood wrote. "Of those five picks, we'll start with two of the first three selections. So the message to Brady is very loud and very clear – you got us Harry and George last year, and we'd like another couple of those, please."

I doubt the eagles blink on this one …. And reckon north will end up losing half these guys they’ve drafted over the last few years ….. there’s only so much money to pay them

 

[PaythePerryman]

I doubt the eagles blink on this one …. And reckon north will end up losing half these guys they’ve drafted over the last few years ….. there’s only so much money to pay them

We know it well

 

[Orange crush]

We know it well

Exactly my point …. Especially as they seem focused on mids, mids and more mids

 

[PaythePerryman]

Exactly my point …. Especially as they seem focused on mids, mids and more mids

That's why they should take Curtin. Gotta commit to those key position players first in my opinion.

 

[Orange crush]

That's why they should take Curtin. Gotta commit to those key position players first in my opinion.

They won’t …. They’ll take a couple in the 20s …. Not saying they don’t be good, but not Curtin level

 

[Giant Strides]

Yep, I don't get it. Their backline looks like it could be a shambles next year, but seemingly doing not much about it. A draftee won't help that much in their first year ... but taking a highly rated draftee would certainly help in the long run. They have so many holes it really wouldn't matter what role Curtain ends up excelling at, he would fill a hole for Norths!

 

[Hendo_21]

Fox Footy draft power rankings: The best 2023 AFL draft prospects ranked 1-50... and the clubs linked to them

Tassie’s third top-10 bolter as top 50 AFL Draft prospects revealed — plus who your club’s keen on

www.foxsports.com.au

Once again linked to Leake and Windsor as well as a couple other names.

 

[Cameron_Jezza]

Fox Footy draft power rankings: The best 2023 AFL draft prospects ranked 1-50... and the clubs linked to them

Tassie’s third top-10 bolter as top 50 AFL Draft prospects revealed — plus who your club’s keen on

www.foxsports.com.au

Once again linked to Leake and Windsor as well as a couple other names.

I wonder if you could shift 16 back.
Say 16,43 for 18 , North 2024r2.
I only say that if the best 2 prospects at 16 are talls, and you have taken Leake already,the player you want at 16 could be there 2 picks later.

 

[Orange crush]

I wonder if you could shift 16 back.
Say 16,43 for 18 , North 2024r2.
I only say that if the best 2 prospects at 16 are talls, and you have taken Leake already,the player you want at 16 could be there 2 picks later.

I think there's a good chance we move a little up or back on the night depending on who's available

 

[dlanod]

I wonder if you could shift 16 back.
Say 16,43 for 18 , North 2024r2.
I only say that if the best 2 prospects at 16 are talls, and you have taken Leake already,the player you want at 16 could be there 2 picks later.

I can't see why North would give up a pick in the 20s to go up two picks.

 

[sydney_gws]

I can't see why North would give up a pick in the 20s to go up two picks.

Teams seem to give up alot on live trades to move up. North might think they can get a sliding ruckman at pick 40 or so. I think this would only happen if we rate 3 players the same, and are happy to move back 2 spots.

 

[Andre the Giant]

I’ve trawled through some highlights videos and with my very limited knowledge can understand why we are comfortable where our first pick sits, we should have a decent one drop for us there. If one of the elite ones drops great otherwise a Windsor, Leake or Caddy would work.

With the second pick could be a bit controversial as it’s probably not a need but gee I like the look of Riley Hardeman from WA. Looks like he has good spring for a mark, decent speed, booming left boot that seems accurate.

Our defence looks pretty stacked but it would be hard to ignore his talent, looks a nice prospect.

 

[GWS Goose]

I’ve trawled through some highlights videos and with my very limited knowledge can understand why we are comfortable where our first pick sits, we should have a decent one drop for us there. If one of the elite ones drops great otherwise a Windsor, Leake or Caddy would work.

With the second pick could be a bit controversial as it’s probably not a need but gee I like the look of Riley Hardeman from WA. Looks like he has good spring for a mark, decent speed, booming left boot that seems accurate.

Our defence looks pretty stacked but it would be hard to ignore his talent, looks a nice prospect.

very nice highlight reel

 

[captainMyCaptain]

 

[fridgeman]

Not that I think it will happen but a trade could be a good option for the club looking at where the picks will fall for the suitable players, that is if the club is not keen on Caddy as I think he would fit the needs and is a high end talent but
Giants
#7 + #16 out
Crows
#10 + #14 in

#10 Select Leake or Wilson
#14 Windsor or Hardeman (Collard another option and if they are keen they could sub #14 for #20 + 2024 #2nd rd + extra)

#40 Should come in and I cant see any way the club moves up but the pick should come into the learly 30's with all the academy picks but see which of the rucks is leftover and pick 1

GC have 6 picks before #40, Dogs and Hawks are all after #40m not sure on others who may get early bids apart from Suns x 4, McCabe and Croft

 

[Giant Pete]

This is interesting… every chance North take McKercher and Dursma, Hawks take Curtin, Bulldogs take Watson and Melbourne take OSullivan.
Leaving us with Sanders.

 

[sydney_gws]

This is interesting… every chance North take McKercher and Dursma, Hawks take Curtin, Bulldogs take Watson and Melbourne take OSullivan.
Leaving us with Sanders.

Maybe we can get one of Sanders Allies or Tasmanian team mates in future.

 

[PMBangers]

Crows keen to move up as Dons, Cats ponder shuffles down order: when first-round bids could come: AFL Draft Watch

Star could spark Dons trade as Crows eye bold move; ‘bid frenzy’ looms: Draft Watch

www.foxsports.com.au

– Exciting medium defender and Bulldogs NGA prospect Luamon Lual looms as a possible first-round chance. Lual, who was runner-up in the GWV Rebels’ best and fairest and earned selection in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year, has been linked to the Giants’ second first-round pick, but also has interest from clubs with early second-round picks.

Have I yet mentioned how much I love Lual?

 

[Orange crush]

Crows keen to move up as Dons, Cats ponder shuffles down order: when first-round bids could come: AFL Draft Watch

Star could spark Dons trade as Crows eye bold move; ‘bid frenzy’ looms: Draft Watch

www.foxsports.com.au

Have I yet mentioned how much I love Lual?

Yes, yes you have

 

[Maximus 2011]

Crows keen to move up as Dons, Cats ponder shuffles down order: when first-round bids could come: AFL Draft Watch

Star could spark Dons trade as Crows eye bold move; ‘bid frenzy’ looms: Draft Watch

www.foxsports.com.au

Have I yet mentioned how much I love Lual?

You can mention it tonight in our podcast mate

 

[Giant Strides]

As another option - I would still not be surprised if Watson made his way to our pick. Clearly, still a lot of options in play with just a week to go. Twomey's late, late mail Phantom Draft will be interesting.

The variety of types available in this draft means that whichever way we are forced to jump with our pick, I would expect there will be viable options of the alternate types of players we want at our later picks.