2023 Membership Talk

[PonsfordMagpie]

Hawthorn and Melbourne shouldn't bite the hand that feeds them.

Our high away attendance rate has bolstered their gate receipts at the MCG.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

absolutely love my away seats in the ponsford, great spot, great crew around me. would be shattered to lose it.

Same here mate.

The one thing I'm unsure about is whether this applies to everyone at the Ponny, or just level 2?

 

[Tippy78]

Has anyone overseas purchased the International Digital membership?

How does the login work? Did you receive the voucher to use at the club store?

Purchased mine a week ago and apart from a confirmation email haven't heard anything.

I have it this year aswell and got a login code and a voucher from the club. Took about a month for me from when I bought the membership to when I received my details

 

[thebigsaveloy]

I have it this year aswell and got a login code and a voucher from the club. Took about a month for me from when I bought the membership to when I received my details

Thanks for letting me know!

I'll get in touch with them to make sure I've got everything before round 1 then. Cheers

 

[magpies42]

Honestly if we give an inch to anybody on anything, I don’t care how banal or irrelevant I will boycot every game and dump manure until
Eddy is installed as President again.

You give an inch and they will take a mile. As it stands at the moment we are the most mistreated club in the competition by a long way.

 

[barrackers]

While not directly said by Gale it seems the tuggers are wanting to increase their home allocation by decreasing our away allocation. No wonder these negotiations haven’t yet finalised despite the MCC flagging it 5 years ago.

Also explains why Collingwood Richmond finals sell out so quickly.

With every club increasing their membership it’s a risky precedent to decrease away club allocations. I’d hate to get to a situation like we can see interstate where there’s limited seats available for opposition supporters.

there are thousands of them who have to vacate their seats and find another seat somewhere, if they can, when we play Collingwood as the home team

some of Collingwood’s members including Legends and Club 5 members, could see their ability to lock in reserved seats for all MCG games limited

‘It’s not fair’: Collingwood, MCG talks continue over away game Ponsford Stand seats

How Collingwood has had a long-time deal to seat members in the Ponsford Stand at the MCG during away games and how it could end this season.

www.theage.com.au

 

[nick1408]

Great post, agree with you here. Its about loss minimisation for the Pies.

The only potential area for a 'win' is the number of home games at the G. Currently Pies are contracted to play two Marvel home games. 95% of our fans hate those, especially since one every year is a home game against a Marvel tenants. Jeff Browne and Craig Kelly could sell a win to members if they are able to get an extra home game at the G.

The best case scenario I can see is getting 10th home game at the MCG, and keeping Ponsford for away games against Essendon, Carlton, other Marvel tenants, and Geelong (until they inevitably get to play 11 home games at their shithole).

In any case, the value proposition of a Collingwood membership is going to dive next year, and I don't trust the club to adjust the prices to reflect that. If there isn't a membership that provides a guaranteed reserved seat for Anzac Day and Queens Birthday in the years those are our away games, I'll definitely be switching to just an 11 game home membership.

I don't think you'll get another home game at the MCG. If that happened someone needs to pick up your Docklands game and no MCG tenant will do that.

 

[nick1408]

Thanks for your input. I assume that other MCG teams currently have a home allocation elsewhere for Collingwood games. I gather from the public info the push from other clubs is maintain a consistent home game experience rather than increasing their home allocation. If that is the case it might a matter of swapping seating areas, however I assume we’d want a sweater of some sort; 1-2 more MCG home games, a bigger slice of $, retaining home change rooms or a refurb of the another area…?

We get general admission for the Collingwood games (level 4 above row L-ish).

On the last point perhaps the pending contract expiry is part of the reason why McGuire was publicly pushing for an update to the Warne Stand in recent years? I could see an angle of us locking in the new Warne Stand under a similar contract and abandoning the Ponsfold for other MCG teams had this scenario played out.

Maybe? Although, I think the current tenant clubs will want those seats for themselves to make money off.

 

[barrackers]

We get general admission for the Collingwood games (level 4 above row L-ish).

Cheers. Certainly makes sense why Richmond are wanting to change. Better seats and potentially more seats for their fans and more membership dollars as a result.

Conversely the pies potentially make more membership dollars off the current arrangement.

 

[pz5151]

I don't think you'll get another home game at the MCG. If that happened someone needs to pick up your Docklands game and no MCG tenant will do that.

I’ve never understood why the AFL needs to stick to that Docklands contract now that they own the ground. Who is going to sue them if they breach it?

 

[nick1408]

Cheers. Certainly makes sense why Richmond are wanting to change. Better seats and potentially more seats for their fans and more membership dollars as a result.

Conversely the pies potentially make more membership dollars off the current arrangement.

Yeah, whatever happens if you lose seats the affected members will need to get a discount. Same as the affected Richmond members currently getting a discount on not having access to the seats.

 

[Jen2310]

Well said eddie.

Eddie McGuire has broken his silence on moves by rival clubs to unpick a longstanding deal allowing Collingwood members exclusive reserved seating at the MCG.
The former Magpies president, speaking exclusively to the Sunday Herald Sun, fired up and called for Richmond and Hawthorn to back off from trying to steal the club’s seats.

He said it was insulting the MCG and AFL were considering reneging on its agreement that gives Collingwood members rights to the Ponsford Stand for both home and away games.

The pact means Richmond and Hawthorn have to relocate their reserved seat members when playing home games against the Pies at the G.

Brendon Gale, the Richmond CEO, has claimed it was “unfair” and “prejudicial” to the Tigers, and failed to reflect his club’s contribution to the “status of the MCG”.

McGuire said it was the Collingwood Football Club who has stood by the MCG from the beginning, when other clubs left.

“I don’t have any problem with Brendon Gale doing it, but I am actually insulted to be honest on behalf of all Collingwood people that the MCG and the AFL would even contemplate it,” McGuire said.

“All these clubs had the chance to do a deal with the MCG and all of them ran out the door.

“When they started what is now Marvel Stadium it was going to be called Victoria Stadium to get Collingwood from Victoria Park.

“It was all offered to Collingwood, then Essendon went and eventually Carlton went, and St Kilda, and all these teams signed up.

“In the end Collingwood stayed and did the ripping deal at the MCG.

“When the new Northern Stand was opened, I invited all the Collingwood members to turn up, I showed them where their seats were and stood with MCC boss Stephen Gough and told our supporters ‘that is your seat for life’.

“That was the deal in word and spirit.”

McGuire said it was Collingwood’s support of the MCG, the money its games and members funnelled into the ground and the deals the club was a part of with the AFL that helped the venue reach its world-class status.

“I’d remind the MCC and the AFL who built the MCG and who financed it and the deals that were done and why they were done,” he said.

“They should never underestimate the Collingwood members and what they have done for this game. They built that ground, the Southern Stand and the Northern Stand.”

He said $50 million also went into the AFL members stand because of a deal the Collingwood Football Club made with Andrew Demetriou.

A further $250 million was invested into rebuilding Marvel stadium and the MCG received 25 new grand finals off the back of Collingwood’s negotiating skills, McGuire said.

“So they want to not have short memories,” he said.
“When suddenly Brendon Gale goes this is not fair to Richmond, I remind him that he sold their games to Cairns and Melbourne sold their games too, and Essendon left and Carlton left and when no one was there and it was a building site, one team was there, the Collingwood

Football Club, and we did the deals and that is why we are here (Olympic Park) and that is why we are there (MCG) and that is why they are tenants and we are partners.”

While McGuire is no longer officially involved with the Collingwood Football Club he was president of the Magpies when the deals were hatched between 1998 and 2004.

“I hope the clubs instead of trying to take away from good ideas and long traditions and deals that have been done which built great facilities actually come up with their own ideas rather than trying to take off the table what has already been done,” he said.

“Brendon Gale, he is trying to get one game from Collingwood, but if this goes through that affects Collingwood in about five or six games.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/fiona-byrne/never-underestimate-collingwood-members-and-what-they-have-done-for-this-game/news-story/d445ec972dcb0c95cc5c65fc920a6225

 

[The Phantom]

Good on you, Eddie.
Love your passion for the club.

 

[magpies42]

Good on you, Eddie.
Love your passion for the club.

Many in his situation would have been bitter and twisted, he bleeds black and white. Legend!

 

[Lensen]

this is the sort of pathetic arrogant shit we should have left behind when Ed left. Complaining because the home team want to control ticketing for their members. Honestly

 

[domus]

this is the sort of pathetic arrogant s**t we should have left behind when Ed left. Complaining because the home team want to control ticketing for their members. Honestly

Eddie made some good points. We were there for the long haul. Richmond couldn't get a big crowd at the G for years. Now the bandwagon is rocking they come knocking. We helped the Tigers out with their SOS campaign. They should show a little gratitude.

 

[magpies42]

this is the sort of pathetic arrogant s**t we should have left behind when Ed left. Complaining because the home team want to control ticketing for their members. Honestly

It’s not arrogant, it’s business. We shouldn’t be funding the afl and the other clubs and get no benefit in return.

 

[The Phantom]

this is the sort of pathetic arrogant s**t we should have left behind when Ed left. Complaining because the home team want to control ticketing for their members. Honestly

Who do you barrack for?
Are you even a member?

He’s sticking up for Collingwood members keeping their seats, that they have enjoyed with their families in some cases for many many years.
They’ve invested the best part of $1000 /year.
Built friendships and more with those around them.
And you’d kick it to the curb because you don’t like Eddie.

 

[Lensen]

Who do you barrack for?
Are you even a member?

He’s sticking up for Collingwood members keeping their seats, that they have enjoyed with their families in some cases for many many years.
They’ve invested the best part of $1000 /year.
Built friendships and more with those around them.
And you’d kick it to the curb because you don’t like Eddie.

Friendships that can continue on for the nine* home games. Like every other club. To insist on rights to seats at away games is arrogance.

You reckon other clubs with members that sit in those areas don't have friendships?

*Edited from 11 as yeah the Etihad thing. That's the deal that needs arguing against.

 

[Mkcaptain]

Friendships that can continue on for the nine* home games. Like every other club. To insist on rights to seats at away games is arrogance.

You reckon other clubs with members that sit in those areas don't have friendships?

*Edited from 11 as yeah the Etihad thing. That's the deal that needs arguing against.

At the end of the day its the MCC's decision, not the other clubs'. If the MCC wants to give us rights to seats at away games that is its call to make.

It sounds like the MCC does want to modernise the deal to some extent and take away some if not all away reserved Ponsford seating from us. However, until that decision is made, its the job of our CEO and President to negotiate the most favourable deal for Collingwood members.

 

[Lensen]

At the end of the day its the MCC's decision, not the other clubs'. If the MCC wants to give us rights to seats at away games that is its call to make.

It sounds like the MCC does want to modernise the deal to some extent and take away some if not all away reserved Ponsford seating from us. However, until that decision is made, its the job of our CEO and President to negotiate the most favourable deal for Collingwood members.

I agree. No issue with them doing so, either.

The bluff and bluster of "we built this MCG stand and they are insulting us to take this away from us"? Embarassing and over the top. Seems not many agree.

 

[The Phantom]

I agree. No issue with them doing so, either.

The bluff and bluster of "we built this MCG stand and they are insulting us to take this away from us"? Embarassing and over the top. Seems not many agree.

I notice you’re from Brisbane.
You’ve got no skin in this game. No seat. Probably no membership.
And you’re speaking against the interests of your fellow supporters.
Side by side?

 

[magpies42]

Friendships that can continue on for the nine* home games. Like every other club. To insist on rights to seats at away games is arrogance.

You reckon other clubs with members that sit in those areas don't have friendships?

*Edited from 11 as yeah the Etihad thing. That's the deal that needs arguing against.

Who gives a rats about other clubs members. Do they care when they take our revenue and distribute it elsewhere?

 

[stormskye]

After the practice game loss I’ve returned mine.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Herald Sun saying we’re going to lose our seats, but the article is paywalled.