MRP / Trib. 2023 MRP Lotto

[giantroo]

AFL: Do you agree you could've opened your arms rather than raising them in the manner you did?

McKay: No ... my only real option was to stretch my arms to hit his body and using my forearm gives me more surface area to hit his body.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

".1" of a second is Mckay's equivalent of Harvey's "300 times"

 

[DarkPhoenix]

AFL: Do you agree you could've opened your arms rather than raising them in the manner you did?

McKay: No ... my only real option was to stretch my arms to hit his body and using my forearm gives me more surface area to hit his body.

Wait what.
That literally does the opposite of what he's claiming, it's less surface area lmao.

 

[giantroo]

McKay speaks​

McKay watches the incident in slow motion and talks us through it.

"I recall the ball leaving his hand and going towards his foot … my intention was to apply pressure and affect the kick," McKay said.

"My right arm, I'm trying to hit Sheezel's left arm to impact the direction of his kick.

"Impact to his arm or body will affect his balance and potentially turn the ball over for our team.

"I recall making initial contact with his left shoulder.

"I'm putting my hands up because I'm a little disappointed in myself for giving away what turned out to be a free kick. No intention to hit him high, so I'm remorseful for that."

McKay says he can't smother because he's not sure Sheezel will kick the ball until the last second.

He says he's not close enough to tackle and that the Blues are trained to use a forearm rather than a push because there's greater surface area to affect the kick.

 

[giantroo]

AFL: Do you accept a combination of the momentum and raising of your arms risked forceful contact with his head?

McKay: When I was chasing and applying pressure there was never any intention to hit him anywhere else than the arm.

 

[giantroo]

AFL: Do you agree you put your arms in the air because you realised you'd been careless and could've really hurt the player?

McKay: I was remorseful about giving away a potential free kick, which would hurt our team and which ended up happening.

 

[Devington]

AFL: Do you accept a combination of the momentum and raising of your arms risked forceful contact with his head?

McKay: When I was chasing and applying pressure there was never any intention to hit him anywhere else than the arm.

Answer the question harry.

 

[tales129]

AFL: Do you agree you could've opened your arms rather than raising them in the manner you did?

McKay: No ... my only real option was to stretch my arms to hit his body and using my forearm gives me more surface area to hit his body.

This should be case closed. He had another option and it was to tackle.

Not lead with a forearm to a blokes neck/head

 

[roomagic1984]

This should be case closed. He had another option and it was to tackle.

Not lead with a forearm to a blokes neck/head

still waiting to understand what Logue's other option was!

 

[Ashley B]

Harry asking the other Harry if he was fine after belting him

 

[Roosurgence]

This charade should be over and the ban upheld based on this evidence.

The AFL’s own rules state that there must be no other alternative and in this case the alternative was to tackle. He chose to bump, push, whatever you want to call it and got it wrong, so bad luck.

Also there should be the magic phrase of you must go lower.

This will be in direct contradiction of everything they have preached in the past if they let him off.

Using the Ballard incident is also a joke. He was downgraded based on evidence that Essendon players came into block him. Sheezel had disposed of the ball, two very different incidents.

Also according to McKays evidence this should have been graded as a bump and not a strike. He tells them his aim was to bump Sheezel off his kick.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Regardless of result, Mckay is coming out of this looking pretty dumb imho

 

[SMaturin]

Mate, a push is with both arms fully extended.

Which coincidentally would have reduced the space and time needed to make contact with Sheezel - your main defence for elbowing him in the first place

 

[Ashley B]

There were plenty of alternatives and what he did had the potential to hurt his unprotected opponent. Maybe one of us here can try it on our good friend Whately and we can then see if McKay had an alternative.

 

[giantroo]

 

[tales129]

So he’s a recidivist. This is laughable defence

 

[Farthers]

Would be funny if they dobbed on themselves with another head high hit.

 

[Ashley B]

Here is another example of Harry trying it on the local green grocer with similar effect . Gotta give Carlton credit for trying

 

[giantroo]

Woods (AFL): It's the action of his arms combined with his momentum that wasn't reasonable in the circumstances.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Whats funnier, is everyone can see how absurd the argument is, people literally laughing at it.

And he's still probably going to be let off because the AFL knows how to secure an outcome

 

[giantroo]

 

[tazaa]

Cause, y'know, past incidents are supposed to be taken into account at the tribunal....


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Past incidents under different guidelines lmao.

The AFL making things up as they go is AFL 101

Honestly it’s WWE levels isn’t it.

 

[muttley45]

I thought Jeff Gleeson was their no 1 prosecutor, does he prefer to do Nth cases ?

 

[Ashley B]

Harry definitely taking the Carlton KAI Technique to the extreme. Here he is with his better half

 

[giantroo]