Preview 2023 National Draft Preview Thread [currently: #2, #14 (PA), #19 (PP) #40, #52, #60]

[PokerRoo]

If WCE finish last, we finish 27 and HAW 18. Then I think there is a possibility of some sort of trade to happen, and all 3 will be involved. The way I read it, WCE would want Curtin, HAW are gagging for Reid, and we would be more than happy for Watson. How it could happen I don't know, and would probably need other parties involved. If Big Ben takes a big offer elsewhere and we end up with compo after our first, then we hold all the cards and will make an interesting trade period.

 

[Makeshift Park]

If WCE finish last, we finish 27 and HAW 18. Then I think there is a possibility of some sort of trade to happen, and all 3 will be involved. The way I read it, WCE would want Curtin, HAW are gagging for Reid, and we would be more than happy for Watson. How it could happen I don't know, and would probably need other parties involved. If Big Ben takes a big offer elsewhere and we end up with compo after our first, then we hold all the cards and will make an interesting trade period.

There's a lot of water to go under the bridge, but...

As things stand, if the ladder were to stay the same and if we're happy with Watson, then I don't see what role we'd have in the deal?

It's GWS's first two rounders that become critical.

With 3 and 5 WCE could get Curtin and Edwards.

 

[JGreezy]

There's a lot of water to go under the bridge, but...

As things stand, if the ladder were to stay the same and if we're happy with Watson, then I don't see what role we'd have in the deal?

It's GWS's first two rounders that become critical.

With 3 and 5 WCE could get Curtin and Edwards.

We did GWS a favour and helped them jump WCE for Cadman at only the cost of pick 12.

They can send up Whitfield at the cost of a pick.

 

[Makeshift Park]

We did GWS a favour and helped them jump WCE for Cadman at only the cost of pick 12.

They can send up Whitfield at the cost of a pick.

But what are you suggesting we'd be giving up to be part of that mega-deal?

If we want Watson, and GWS want a salary dump, doesn't the latter just get negotiated separately to any megadeal for Reid, since we need 2 for Watson?

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

If WCE finish last, we finish 27 and HAW 18. Then I think there is a possibility of some sort of trade to happen, and all 3 will be involved. The way I read it, WCE would want Curtin, HAW are gagging for Reid, and we would be more than happy for Watson. How it could happen I don't know, and would probably need other parties involved. If Big Ben takes a big offer elsewhere and we end up with compo after our first, then we hold all the cards and will make an interesting trade period.

I know we’re fairly atrocious at the moment, but finishing 27th is out of the question in my view.

 

[LB2Snake]

I know we’re fairly atrocious at the moment, but finishing 27th is out of the question in my view.

Mathematical chance?

 

[ohmygewd]

What's the rules on trading future 1sts? Could we do this the next couple of drafts to get a kid in earlier?
I'm pretty sure you have to trade back in a 1st at some point right after a certain number of years of trading future 1sts?
I'm warming to the idea that we draft a Caddy or Wilson/Freijah and get them in a year early.
Obviously if McKay goes that reduces the need to do that if we get a top 4 compo pick (might end up being end of 1st based on his performances).

Stupidly complicated under the guise of the AFL trying to protect clubs from trading their futures away hence "Clubs must make a minimum of two first-round draft selections in a rolling four-year period. Eg. 2019-22 is the period for this year, then 2019 drops off next year, when it will become 2020-23"...as always with the AFL, there can be exceptions.

 

[Gasometer]

So who is this Watson I googled and aside the sensational Goal kicking I saw I found this disturbing piece of news..

BFCAAK

Just need to change the colour of the stripes…same diff

 

[R00StaR]

There's a lot of water to go under the bridge, but...

As things stand, if the ladder were to stay the same and if we're happy with Watson, then I don't see what role we'd have in the deal?

It's GWS's first two rounders that become critical.

With 3 and 5 WCE could get Curtin and Edwards.

BIG IF..... We get round 1 compo for McKay and finish 2nd last it could get interesting. Anything short of that we match and force a trade.

If we have picks 2 and 3 then we could pick up Watson and Curtin. If Curtin is a flight risk we have bargaining power for Reid down the track. Given Reid has stated he'd prefer to stay in Vic, then in this scenario perhaps WC might consider trading pick 1 for pick 2 with a sweetener to avoid potentially missing out on both if Reid really wants home.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Stupidly complicated under the guise of the AFL trying to protect clubs from trading their futures away hence "Clubs must make a minimum of two first-round draft selections in a rolling four-year period. Eg. 2019-22 is the period for this year, then 2019 drops off next year, when it will become 2020-23"...as always with the AFL, there can be exceptions.

Mainly for any team starting with G and end in G…

 

[marklovesbeer]

 

[Sphynx]

BIG IF..... We get round 1 compo for McKay and finish 2nd last it could get interesting. Anything short of that we match and force a trade.

If we have picks 2 and 3 then we could pick up Watson and Curtin. If Curtin is a flight risk we have bargaining power for Reid down the track. Given Reid has stated he'd prefer to stay in Vic, then in this scenario perhaps WC might consider trading pick 1 for pick 2 with a sweetener to avoid potentially missing out on both if Reid really wants home.

In the rare scenario we had 2 and 3.

I'd probably try the trade with West Coast, we take Reid and Watson and they still get Curtin at #3.

It might cost us the Port pick and then some change back to us, but that would be a game changing return imo.

It's the only scenario in which I'd trade up for Reid, if it still meant we could get Watson.

Something like

Pick #1 and WCE F2

for Pick #3 and Port R1

and the gentleman's agreement that Curtin or Edwards go to #3.

 

[The acurate one]

Was just chatting to a fellow worker and her son who just turned 18. Played seniors last week and had a lazy 97 hit outs, 20 touches 8 tackles etc.

Is 202cm and bloody solid The Pie and Poort are both sniffing around . Good kid doesn’t drink and is very focused

 

[giantroo]

 

[the big lebowski]

Want

 

[chubbspeterson]

Stupidly complicated under the guise of the AFL trying to protect clubs from trading their futures away hence "Clubs must make a minimum of two first-round draft selections in a rolling four-year period. Eg. 2019-22 is the period for this year, then 2019 drops off next year, when it will become 2020-23"...as always with the AFL, there can be exceptions.

Ok so trading into this year in the 1st round wouldn't matter then. Could be an option to get a young kid in 12 mths earlier I guess.
I'm not sure I'm sold on doing it this year as we're likely to be bottom 4 next year so it'd have to be a top 5 pick at least this year or a top 10 this year and early 2nd this year or next year perhaps, depending if we have somebody we want like a Caddy or Wilson and want to get them badly.
Might depend on McKay compo as well. Not much point doing it if we have another top 10 pick or can force a trade to get better than an end of 1st.

 

[Supreme_Chancellor]

Any relation to Josh?

 

[Philosophical Grendel]

Any relation to Josh?

Nephew, according to that clip.

 

[Lomas]

Was just chatting to a fellow worker and her son who just turned 18. Played seniors last week and had a lazy 97 hit outs, 20 touches 8 tackles etc.

Is 202cm and bloody solid The Pie and Poort are both sniffing around . Good kid doesn’t drink and is very focused

97 hitouts? Must have been a stoppage fest.

 

[Sphynx]

Any relation to Josh?

Yes.

Son of Saul (Josh's brother and a bit of a local footy legend in the North)

Saul is good mates with Boomer and the Caddy's are big North supporters as most on here would know (never helped us with Josh though...)

 

[krakouers]

I was the North recruiter for the Bigfooty Trial Phantom Draft. See below North’s picks. If you are interested to see what players are available there are some really good write ups in that thread.

We ended up with:
3: Nick Watson - Small Fwd/mid
15: Connor O’Sullivan - Key defender
40: Logan Morris - Key forward
53: Lance Collard - Half forward/Wing
54: Riley Weatherill - Key forward

Pick 53 - North Melbourne - Lance Collard - Subiaco - 185cm & 68kg

If you are looking for X-factor Collard has it in spades. He has speed, agility and a whole bag of tricks when playing close to goal.

He is capable of rolling through the midfield, playing on a wing or playing a crumbing small forward. He is a nice kick of the footy and has really good vision that allows him to create scoring opportunities when kicking the ball inside 50.

Around goals, he can kick them from anywhere. Snaps, set shots and goals on the run all come very natural. He creates separation with good agility and a quick first few steps. While many opportunistic forwards tend to play a bit of a selfish game, Collard often brings his teammates into it with unselfish play.

While I really like him as a small forward, I project he has scope to play as a really damaging wingman due to his ability to run and carry and distribute inside 50. North are short on both creative wingers and goal kicking threats so Collard fits the bill for both. He’ll be a bit of a project players, but there is more than enough talent to work with.

Just on Collard:

 

[the big lebowski]

Yes.

Son of Saul (Josh's brother and a bit of a local footy legend in the North)

Saul is good mates with Boomer and the Caddy's are big North supporters as most on here would know (never helped us with Josh though...)

Any idea how tall Saul is?

 

[Shagga is all Class]

I'd hate to go early, but in my head, he's already a North player.

The only way we don't pick him is if his output drops off, particularly at the Champs and someone like Archer Reid or another Victorian is lights out for the rest of the year, and puts in a massive carnival.

Happy to cop the hate if we don't have him at year's end but it's a formality for us to select him if we don't finish last.

Well, if you concede we are bottom 3, then Watson is the most likely.

Watson, Brayden George and Cooper Harvey into our current forward line mix with Sheezel mid-forward would give the opposition plenty to think about.

 

[giantroo]

 

[The acurate one]

97 hitouts? Must have been a stoppage fest.

Yeah was a little surprised at the number, 23 to advantage. Anywho my point I suppose was the two clubs showing interest. And I hadn't heard of many tall Vic kids in the draft. Not suggesting he would be an early pick, would think a bit later.