NFL 2023 NFL - Week 16

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FRIDAY, DECEMBER 22 @ 12:15 PM
New Orleans at Los Angeles Rams LIVE

SUNDAY, DECEMBER 24 @ 8:30 AM
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh LIVE

SUNDAY, DECEMBER 24 @ 12:00 PM
Buffalo at Los Angeles Chargers LIVE

MONDAY, DECEMBER 25 @ 5:00 AM
Cleveland at Houston
Detroit at Minnesota
Green Bay at Carolina
Indianapolis at Atlanta
Seattle at Tennessee
Washington at New York Jets

MONDAY, DECEMBER 25 @ 8:05 AM
Jacksonville at Tampa Bay

MONDAY, DECEMBER 25 @ 8:25 AM
Arizona at Chicago LIVE
Dallas at Miami LIVE

MONDAY, DECEMBER 25 @ 12:15 PM
New England at Denver LIVE

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 26 @ 5:00 AM
Las Vegas at Kansas City

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 26 @ 8:30 AM
New York Giants at Philadelphia

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 26 @ 12:15 PM
Baltimore at San Francisco LIVE

AUSTRALIAN T.V. GAMES
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 12:15 PM ON 22/12: New Orleans at Los Angeles Rams
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 8.30 AM ON 24/12: Cincinnati at Pittsburgh
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 12.00 PM ON 24/12: Buffalo at Los Angeles Chargers
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 5.00 AM ON 25/12: Detroit at Minnesota
LIVE ON ESPN2/KAYO AT 5.00 AM ON 25/12: Seattle at Tennessee
LIVE ON 7MATE AT 5.00 AM ON 25/12: Cleveland at Houston
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 8.25 AM ON 25/12: Dallas at Miami
LIVE ON 7MATE AT 8.25 AM ON 25/12: Arizona at Chicago
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 12.15 PM ON 25/12: New England at Denver
LIVE ON ESPN2/KAYO AT 12.15 PM ON 26/12: Baltimore at San Francisco

LIVE ON watchESPN AT 5:00 AM on 25/12: NFL RedZone

NB: VIC, NSW, TAS times
less 30 mins SA
less 1 hour QLD
less 1.5 hours NT
less 3 hours WA

 

[STFU Donnie]

Based on Lincoln, Yoda is

Merry Christmas GG.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Merry Christmas GG.

And all the best for the new year to you too

 

[revo333]

How lucky can the Bills get...

 

[revo333]

I was going to say Eugenie said she would bang Mason if he won but it appears they broke up last year.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Interesting how the trade of Stafford and Goff turned out:

Rams: Stafford + Superbowl win
Lions: Goff + 2022 first (Jameson Williams) + 2023 first (traded back from pick 6 with the Cards for pick 12 Gibbs and 34 LaPorta)

Dont often get it but in this case a big win for both teams.

 

[drd23]

 

[aussiedude]

Interesting how the trade of Stafford and Goff turned out:

Rams: Stafford + Superbowl win
Lions: Goff + 2022 first (Jameson Williams) + 2023 first (traded back from pick 6 with the Cards for pick 12 Gibbs and 34 LaPorta)

Dont often get it but in this case a big win for both teams.

Lions might of won the trade since Goff hasn't really played worse than Stafford would of if he stayed in Detroit.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Lions might of won the trade since Goff hasn't really played worse than Stafford would of if he stayed in Detroit.

Lions would have taken Witherspoon at 6 if he was there but Seahawks took him the pick before so they traded back. Witherspoon has been great but I'd prefer Gibbs and LaPorta.

 

[aussiedude]

Also with the ages Stafford is near the end. Goff could still have another 1-2 contract if he plays at the level he has this season.

Sure neither were ever going to be the elite QBs that everyone is compared to. But both are good players and better than anyone you can get in the open market. Would say the same about Cousins, they are the new generations Eli Manning or Philip Rivers. It's hard to get better without a generational QB and half the league would love to have them

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Also with the ages Stafford is near the end. Goff could still have another 1-2 contract if he plays at the level he has this season.

Sure neither were ever going to be the elite QBs that everyone is compared to. But both are good players and better than anyone you can get in the open market. Would say the same about Cousins, they are the new generations Eli Manning or Philip Rivers. It's hard to get better without a generational QB and half the league would love to have them

Goff was meant to only last a season or two with the Lions, a bridge QB til they found a solution, they did that trade for the picks and the Rams had to pay extra to get off Goff's contract. His play has far exceeded for what was expected at the time.

Really ballsy trade by Holmes (Lions GM), trading away a QB all the Lions fans loved, pretty sure it was his first trade as GM. Could have blown up in his face but worked out beautifully.

 

[revo333]

Interesting how the trade of Stafford and Goff turned out:

Rams: Stafford + Superbowl win
Lions: Goff + 2022 first (Jameson Williams) + 2023 first (traded back from pick 6 with the Cards for pick 12 Gibbs and 34 LaPorta)

Dont often get it but in this case a big win for both teams.

I'm not surprised that he has been good for the Lions.

At the Rams it was super bowl or bust and I think it was too much pressure for him and he lost confidence.

 

[aussiedude]

Goff was meant to only last a season or two with the Lions, a bridge QB til they found a solution, they did that trade for the picks and the Rams had to pay extra to get off Goff's contract. His play has far exceeded for what was expected at the time.

Really ballsy trade by Holmes (Lions GM), trading away a QB all the Lions fans loved, pretty sure it was his first trade as GM. Could have blown up in his face but worked out beautifully.

I don't think it was a ballsy trade. More that they saw where the roster was knew they needed to make changes and Stafford could go somewhere to win.

I think there were a few other teams after him. I think k Washington and Cleveland had offers, but don't know if the Lions wanted to send hin to somewhere to win or if he had a no trade clause to waive on better options

 

[Constantgin]

Lions might of won the trade since Goff hasn't really played worse than Stafford would of if he stayed in Detroit.

Stafford got the rams a Super Bowl so until lions get one this is a clear win for Rams.
As a 49ers fans I would trade a heap of future pro bowlers for one vet if that one vet got us a Super Bowl win.

 

[revo333]

I guess ESPN got first pick in being able to show Miami v Cowboys and 7mate got stuck with Browns v Texans?

Thank God for Kayo.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I don't think it was a ballsy trade.

It is for a new GM imo. Get that wrong and you likely never get another job. Stafford was never the issue in Detroit, the safe play would have been to keep him and just draft talent to put around him.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Niners/Shamahan was also hot for Stafford.

Remember a story where McVay went to some beach venue where Stafford was at to convince him to be a Ram, and other coaches like Shamahan, Broncos etc heard about it and went there too to try to win him over instead but they were too late basically

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Niners/Shamahan was also hot for Stafford.

Remember a story where McVay went to some beach venue where Stafford was at to convince him to be a Ram, and other coaches like Shamahan, Broncos etc heard about it and went there too to try to win him over instead but they were too late basically

The Panthers actually had a trade in place with Detroit, agreed to (pick 8, a fifth and Bridgewater), was just up to Stafford. Stafford went away to think it over. The Rams won him over and the rest is history.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

At the end of last season, the major headlines surrounded Matthew Stafford after the Detroit Lions. The Los Angeles Rams put a package that brought the Georgia product to sunny L.A. and is now competing in Super Bowl, but that was almost not the case.

Recently, Detroit Lions GM Brad Holmes confirmed that the Carolina Panthers were a top suitor in Stafford’s franchise-altering trade. According to a recent article from Charlotte Observer reporter Jonathan Alexander, the Panthers thought they had everything secured. Still, they were shocked to find out Los Angeles swooped in and essentially stole Stafford from them.

At this same time last year, during the Senior Bowl, Panthers brass were in talks with the Lions concerning Stafford because it was clear the Panthers wanted to upgrade the quarterback position after another disappointing season. In addition, it was clear the Panthers were through with Teddy Bridgewater after his failure to come up big in the most crucial moments, something Stafford has in abundance.

Throughout the week of talks, the Lions and Panthers had agreed to the foundation of the trade, the eighth pick in the 2021 draft, and Bridgewater. The details have the potential trade had plenty of variation with some having an extra late pick in the mix, but knowing the details of the trade, the Panthers had to believe they were getting a steal.

Leaving last year’s Senior Bowl, the Panthers were supremely confident they just landed their franchise quarterback to help elevate the offense, but that was far from the truth after they made it back to Panther headquarters. They learned from a reporter that the Lions were close to pulling off a trade with the Rams, Stafford’s preferred destination, and later it confirmed after the Panthers spoke with Holmes.

The Panthers went from believing they had landed Stafford to learning secondhand that it wasn’t as clear-cut as they thought it was. Surely the rollercoaster of emotion was a tough one to swallow, with some of the Panthers higher-ups believing they had won the trade to being ripped away like a band-aid.

There will always be debate about which trade the Lions should’ve done, and it’s not something that will go away any time soon. Knowing how close the Panthers were to pulling the trade adds another layer to the Stafford trade saga. With Stafford competing for the most coveted prize in the NFL, the Panthers will always wonder what could’ve been and how close they almost had him, but now just a faded dream.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

...still looking

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Denver offered pick 9 and Drew Lock.

 

[AmericanCrow]

 

[AmericanCrow]

 

[Constantgin]

Finally Santa has his revenge

 

[aussiedude]

Merry Xmas everyone

 

[Constantgin]

Happy Xmas all