Training 2023 Pre Season

[FQFjt]

Strongly disagree. Jones is an absolute butcher and if he isn't turning it over it's hard to notice him having any positive impact on the game. He acts like a hard nut but rarely will you see him willingly put his body in harms way.
The quicker our midfield has enough quality to phase him out the better.

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The stats do not match your recollections. Jones' disposal efficiency, kicking efficiency and clanger count is better than all of our other main line midfielders, except Steele where they are about on par.

In fact, his short kicking into F50 is generally very good.

 

[phantom13]

The stats do not match your recollections. Jones' disposal efficiency, kicking efficiency and clanger count is better than all of our other main line midfielders, except Steele where they are about on par.

In fact, his short kicking into F50 is generally very good.

I think when he duffs a kick he really duffs it (as in it either squibs out along the ground or is a complete mung that no one can gather) but hes generally pretty neat, he also kicks alot at full pace which is exceptionally hard to do.

 

[FQFjt]

I think when he duffs a kick he really duffs it (as in it either squibs out along the ground or is a complete mung that no one can gather) but hes generally pretty neat, he also kicks alot at full pace which is exceptionally hard to do.

Yep, as with Gresham, the brain has a way of remembering the really bad instances and extrapolating that they are the norm. Which is why objective statistics can be helpful (shockingly).

 

[gringo2011]

I think when he duffs a kick he really duffs it (as in it either squibs out along the ground or is a complete mung that no one can gather) but hes generally pretty neat, he also kicks alot at full pace which is exceptionally hard to do.

When he played at Sydney he was a liability by foot but he was playing as a running HBF who would kick at full pace and spray everywhere. Since moving to the mids his kicking is a lot less problematic or at least less exposed. He legitimately was horrible back in his early days.

 

[Joffaboy]

When he played at Sydney he was a liability by foot but he was playing as a running HBF who would kick at full pace and spray everywhere. Since moving to the mids his kicking is a lot less problematic or at least less exposed. He legitimately was horrible back in his early days.

Better kick than Dangerfield...still would rather have Dangerfield in the team than Jones

 

[phantom13]

Better kick than Dangerfield...still would rather have Dangerfield in the team than Jones

Id like a toilet made out of solid gold but its just not on the cards now is it baby.

 

[Minga]

Just got off the phone with the club, and the intra-club won’t be live streamed.

Which is disappointing because it has been in the past but oh well.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Just got off the phone with the club, and the intra-club won’t be live streamed.

Which is disappointing because it has been in the past but oh well.

Aren’t they officially calling it an “open training”. Hence no live stream.

 

[George]

he’s going to have an interview with the whisp air on channel 7

But he did discuss a little about what Lyon said, which was that he likened him to Petrafca in his attitude and he turned out alright and that he’s more than a good chance to play round one

Do you know when that airs?

 

[DougalHoward]

Do you know when that airs?

it'll be 6:45 when the channel 7 sport is on

they'll put it up on twitter and someone will post it here afterwards anyway so don't worry

 

[saintmike65]

Is it 10am Friday? Be interesting if they change it until the arvo.

Training usually starts @ 9.30 am.

 

[Minga]

Aren’t they officially calling it an “open training”. Hence no live stream.

That’s right. Would be a nice touch tho!

Dying to see the boys play but I can’t get down to Moorabbin and I can’t reasonably afford Kayo for the practice matches.

Thankfully there are always some pretty detailed training reports that get thrown up on here!

 

[plugger66]

did you miss a word plugger66 as otherwise it doesn't make sense to me

Amazing how one word can completely change an opinion. For example. I’m a very smart man.

 

[Joffaboy]

Id like a toilet made out of solid gold but its just not on the cards now is it baby.

Well Donald Trump may have a fire sale so you might be in luck, that is if you want to put your arse where his has been

 

[Cairnsman]

I for one am looking forward to Cairnsman's training update after tomorrows open session.

I can give you one beforehand if you want?

 

[CursingFijian]

I’ve said it for years. You can’t really improve skills once players get to a club. You put systems in place to enhance the skills. Maybe you can fix set shots for goals but in the play on of a game you have very little hope so I’m glad Lyon is wasting players training times on things that just won’t change.

When I imagine a skillful player two things come to mind. 1) great decision making 2) great biomechanics.

Learning to choose the right option at the right time is something that can definitely be built into drills and match play.

In my experience teaching biomechanics is something that the player needs to have a strong focus on, and time needs to be spent away from group training, for learning and rehearsing. But a coach can definitely allocate time in a warm-up for practicing biomechanics.

The elite players have a really strong biomechanical base that gives them the confidence to choose options that average players just won’t.

 

[plugger66]

When I imagine a skillful player two things come to mind. 1) great decision making 2) great biomechanics.

Learning to choose the right option at the right time is something that can definitely be built into drills and match play.

In my experience teaching biomechanics is something that the player needs to have a strong focus on, and time needs to be spent away from group training, for learning and rehearsing. But a coach can definitely allocate time in a warm-up for practicing biomechanics.

The elite players have a really strong biomechanical base that gives them the confidence to choose options that average players just won’t.

Decision making can certainly be improved after 18 years of age. Matter of fact I’d say most players improve that in their afl career. I honestly think once they come to afl it’s to late to improve actual skills unless it’s a static skill like kicking for goal after a mark. There just isn’t enough time to do the skills during training. I can hardly think of a player whose actual skills have really improved during a course of a career.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Decision making can certainly be improved after 18 years of age. Matter of fact I’d say most players improve that in their afl career. I honestly think once they come to afl it’s to late to improve actual skills unless it’s a static skill like kicking for goal after a mark. There just isn’t enough time to do the skills during training. I can hardly think of a player whose actual skills have really improved during a course of a career.

Spot on.
When we see the guys still playing in their 30s , its not because they are stronger or faster.

 

[phantom13]

Decision making can certainly be improved after 18 years of age. Matter of fact I’d say most players improve that in their afl career. I honestly think once they come to afl it’s to late to improve actual skills unless it’s a static skill like kicking for goal after a mark. There just isn’t enough time to do the skills during training. I can hardly think of a player whose actual skills have really improved during a course of a career.

You definitely can. Theres a few more specialist kicking coaching places now (baseline footy being one) they were working with Darryl McDowell-White jnr over the last year or so to improve his mechanics and i think the absolutely have. He is 25 i think and just got taken by the lions as a cat b rookie.

I probably agree that thats not going to happen at club training but you definitely can improve it after 18.

 

[True Believer]

Decision making can certainly be improved after 18 years of age. Matter of fact I’d say most players improve that in their afl career. I honestly think once they come to afl it’s to late to improve actual skills unless it’s a static skill like kicking for goal after a mark. There just isn’t enough time to do the skills during training. I can hardly think of a player whose actual skills have really improved during a course of a career.

Dan MacKenzie says hi......

 

[akaifu]

The stats do not match your recollections. Jones' disposal efficiency, kicking efficiency and clanger count is better than all of our other main line midfielders, except Steele where they are about on par.

In fact, his short kicking into F50 is generally very good.

When you get 20 touches a game, ofc your clanger count isn't going to be as high as someone that gets 30 touches. Good disposal/kicking efficiency doesn't mean you are a good kick - a lot of the time when you bomb it to a contest and its halved by your teammates the disposal counts as effective so its unreliable. You need to look at score involvements and goal assists to have a better view of a player's impact from disposal imo.

 

[CursingFijian]

Decision making can certainly be improved after 18 years of age. Matter of fact I’d say most players improve that in their afl career. I honestly think once they come to afl it’s to late to improve actual skills unless it’s a static skill like kicking for goal after a mark. There just isn’t enough time to do the skills during training. I can hardly think of a player whose actual skills have really improved during a course of a career.

I can’t subscribe to that. If improved biomechanics isn’t happening it’s because there is no system and structure in place to improve it.

But in other codes there are many instances of athletes improving their movement under pressure to achieve elite results.

 

[George]

Just got off the phone with the club, and the intra-club won’t be live streamed.

Which is disappointing because it has been in the past but oh well.

What a shame. The revolution will not be televised.

 

[Moquo]

What a shame. The revolution will not be televised.

And apparently whitey was never on the moon.

 

[Joffaboy]

The bubble is back under RTB

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