Training 2023 Pre Season

[SteeleSaints]

Injury list is insane

Tim Membrey	Knee	TBC
Marcus Windhager	Hand	Test
Max Heath	Ankle	Test
Seb Ross	Calf	1-2 weeks
Nick Coffield	Calf	4-6 weeks
Jack Billings	Leg	6-9 weeks
Max King	Shoulder	6-9 weeks
Isaac Keeler	Knee	6-9 weeks
Jack Hayes	Foot	10-12 weeks
Dan McKenzie	Calf	Indefinite
Zak Jones	Achilles	Indefinite
Matthew Allison	Foot	Indefinite
Olli Hotton	Back	Indefinite
Angus McLennan	Back	Indefinite

We are all happy to see the step up in training intensity, but it has come with some serious injuries to the list. The numbers are ludicrous and questions have to be asked whether we increased the work load and intensity too hard too soon?

 

[Dard Ball Get]

30 available players to select from lol

I was geared up for to sneak into 7-8th this season like Mowman , but we just can’t/won’t do it with these injuries. The worst thing that can happen is we finish in that 9-12 zone again

 

[Dr Spaceman]

30 available players to select from lol

And if we get another 30 injured we won’t need anyone to go to training

 

[Dard Ball Get]

We are all happy to see the step up in training intensity, but it has come with some serious injuries to the list. The numbers are ludicrous and questions have to be asked whether we increased the work load and intensity too hard too soon.

I don’t think the majority of those are the result of “increased work load”.

 

[stavro#4]

We are all happy to see the step up in training intensity, but it has come with some serious injuries to the list. The numbers are ludicrous and questions have to be asked whether we increased the work load and intensity too hard too soon?

What happened was a mix between a late start for Ross and co and the afl mandated breaks which had our senior core back for like a week before another break for Christmas.

To get the required work in - they increased the workload substantially post new year with the risk this could happen.

And it has.

 

[SteeleSaints]

I don’t think the majority of those are the result of “increased work load”.

The other term was intensity?

King shoulder at training.
Hayes foot at training.
Ross calf training.
McKenzie calf training.
Coffield hamstring then calf training.
Membrey knee training.
Keeler knee training.
Jones achillies training.
Allison foot training.
McLennan (NGA) back training.

The only non training injuries are -
Billings broken leg practice match.
Heath ankle practice match.
Windhager hand practice match.
Hotton back possibly injured before he joined the club.

Stavro we are already making excuses - blaming the AFL for their scheduled breaks. When it is blatant as the nose on your face that the increased training workload & intensity has gone way too far too quickly for this group.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

The other term was intensity?

King shoulder at training.
Hayes foot at training.
Ross calf training.
McKenzie calf training.
Coffield hamstring then calf training.
Membrey knee training.
Keeler knee training.
Jones achillies training.
Allison foot training.
McLennan (NGA) back training.

The only non training injuries are -
Billings broken leg practice match.
Heath ankle practice match.
Windhager practice match.
Hotton back possibly injured before he joined ther club.

What’s the alternative?
Would only consider the soft tissue injuries potential “over training” injuries. Then again, what’s the alternative, not train?

 

[Cairnsman]

Going to be interesting to see who takes Members spot now, Caminiti or Sharman?

 

[stavro#4]

What’s the alternative?
Would only consider the soft tissue injuries potential “over training” injuries. Then again, what’s the alternative, not train?

To be perfectly honest, the only one I believe was avoidable was Kings and if the story I was told is true - about how it happened.

It would boil the piss of the fan base.

 

[Sun Ra]

What’s the alternative?
Would only consider the soft tissue injuries potential “over training” injuries. Then again, what’s the alternative, not train?

More pool/spa/sauna/massage sessions. Far more forgiving on the body.

 

[stavro#4]

Going to be interesting to see who takes Members spot now, Caminiti or Sharman?

Age ran with Caminiti debuting.

 

[Sun Ra]

To be perfectly honest, the only one I believe was avoidable was Kings and if the story I was told is true - about how it happened.

It would boil the piss of the fan base.

Spill the beans .........

 

[Dard Ball Get]

To be perfectly honest, the only one I believe was avoidable was Kings and if the story I was told is true - about how it happened.

It would boil the piss of the fan base.

Broken legs and hands avoidable?

Yes I have heard the story, I got that PM. Not ideal, but if his arm can’t handle a yank in training, it would happen in-game also.

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Plenty a training report during the season helped provide a guide and some hope for the following week.

Track watching is one of the best things about footy forums. Gives a little insight to what the club are doing.

It is just funny watching people snipe away at those that provide them. Yet I’ve never seen one of those guys provide a quarter of the value to this forum in comparison to someone who is spending their time in real life to supply info for a group of fans online.

Might explain why the saints board is so poorly represented on big footy in comparison to most clubs

The main reason to be here is those track watchers. Those who give enough of a **** to get off the couch and go do some spying for us. Otherwise I’d just talk to my mates who know just as much of nothing as I do

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Going to be interesting to see who takes Members spot now, Caminiti or Sharman?

Caminiti for sure.

 

[Ads734]

What happened was a mix between a late start for Ross and co and the afl mandated breaks which had our senior core back for like a week before another break for Christmas.

To get the required work in - they increased the workload substantially post new year with the risk this could happen.

And it has.

That’s dumb from the club.

 

[stavro#4]

Broken legs and hands avoidable?

Yes I have heard the story, I got that PM. Not ideal, but if his arm can’t handle a yank in training, it would happen in-game also.

It all depends on if the “yank” was done in frustration - which it was made to seem like it was

 

[stavro#4]

That’s dumb from the club.

To be honest, I think it shows the previous regimes failing more so then the new guys rolling the dice because they need certain standards.

 

[SteeleSaints]

To be perfectly honest, the only one I believe was avoidable was Kings and if the story I was told is true - about how it happened.

It would boil the piss of the fan base.

I have heard the King version also - but to suggest the number of injuries we have are not related to their increased work load and or training intensity is 'head in the sand' stuff. Clearly our blokes weren't doing the work of professional footballers before the changes, but the step up has obviously been increased way too quickly. All the experts quote that the most injuries occur when players are fatigued. You have to train under match like fatigued conditions, but do it later in the preseason when players bodies are ready for it.

Lets not make excuses for the clubs player and injury management, when it has been poor!

 

[Sun Ra]

It all depends on if the “yank” was done in frustration - which it was made to seem like it was

Who was the yanker in question ?

 

[Sully111]

Going to be interesting to see who takes Members spot now, Caminiti or Sharman?

What are your thoughts on the matter Cairnsman?

 

[plugger66]

Mate we appreciate any training pics or reports you put up, thank you so much for these over the off-season I especially loved the King photos. Got me salivating for his return.

If you have certain things you prefer to share with a small group then no worries, but can I suggest not sharing about that on the forum? It just brings down the vibe and you can imagine it would turn off new posters to always be hearing about secret PM groups where the real gold is shared.

Just a suggestion and feel free to dismiss it, obviously I'm not a mod but in my opinion it brings down the vibe and community feel of the forum.

I have my own secret group I give reports to. I see nothing wrong with that but I’m sick of only pming myself and that idiot never says thank you. If anyone wants join I can send you a report on Ormond.

 

[DougalHoward]

Going to be interesting to see who takes Members spot now, Caminiti or Sharman?

Caminiti

 

[plugger66]

Lol this place is hilariously entertaining.

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Well that’s a good thing. With the injury news today we need entertainment.

 

[stavro#4]

I have heard the King version also - but to suggest the number of injuries we have are not related to their increased work load and or training intensity is 'head in the sand' stuff. Clearly our blokes weren't doing the work of professional footballers before the changes, but the step up has obviously been increased way too quickly. All the experts quote that the most injuries occur when players are fatigued. You have to train under match like fatigued conditions, but do it later in the preseason when players bodies are ready for it.

Lets not make excuse for the clubs player and injury management, when it has been poor!

Last time Ross was here the same thing happened.

Yeah it’s shit.

But it highlights what was wrong prior. I’d rather go in with 28 blokes to choose from who can do what’s required instead of looking good for 3/4 and falling apart when it matters.