Position 2023 Rookies

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Maybe Tomorrow said:
Will Gould of course.

Did Josh Sinn keep D/M?
Surely Adelaide give McAsey a go at some stage? Even just to confirm he's a bust.
Dean and Kelly from Collingwood
Fahey @ GWS got talked up last year.
Did Van Rooyen lose D/F? Seems to be a chance of playing if BBB is cooked.

McKenna doesn't have the scoring history to be worth picking unless he's under $150k imo.
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Dreamteamtalk has Sinn as M/Fwd and van Rooyen Fwd only

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Maybe Tomorrow said:
Will Gould of course.

Did Josh Sinn keep D/M?
Surely Adelaide give McAsey a go at some stage? Even just to confirm he's a bust.
Dean and Kelly from Collingwood
Fahey @ GWS got talked up last year.
Did Van Rooyen lose D/F? Seems to be a chance of playing if BBB is cooked.

McKenna doesn't have the scoring history to be worth picking unless he's under $150k imo.
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I'm going off this



Sinn is mid/fwd and JVR is a straight fwd now.
 

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Maybe Tomorrow said:
Bugger, two off the list. Defensive rookies are always the hardest to find. Not seeing many juicy looking mid-pricers either.
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I'm currently thinking Jake Lever and Hunter Clark as mid-pricers and then four of the various rookies that we've been discussing.

Might need a third mid pricer if things get really grim.
 
Maybe Tomorrow said:
Will Gould of course.

Did Josh Sinn keep D/M?
Surely Adelaide give McAsey a go at some stage? Even just to confirm he's a bust.
Dean and Kelly from Collingwood
Fahey @ GWS got talked up last year.
Did Van Rooyen lose D/F? Seems to be a chance of playing if BBB is cooked.

McKenna doesn't have the scoring history to be worth picking unless he's under $150k imo.
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Josh Goater D/M played 1 game for 70 pts......on the watchlist for me.
 
Makeshift Park said:
In 2019 he averaged 80 a game. If he can repeat that, his value will eventually be something around 400k, no?
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Really depends on his starting price, would need to be very low for me to consider. 80 with a well timed spike game might be worth it, but he's had 8 100+ scores in 70 games. Not really gambling odd's.

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Makeshift Park said:
I'm currently thinking Jake Lever and Hunter Clark as mid-pricers and then four of the various rookies that we've been discussing.

Might need a third mid pricer if things get really grim.
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Clark (priced 57? with one season 80+) and Lever (priced at 68, one season 80+) being the best mid-price options suggests GnR is the way for me. Both of them love an injury too.

Did Ben Long keep D/F? He's a shittruck imo but the Suns got him to play half back. Priced at 60 and scored 142 in round 23 playing as a seagull.
 
Maybe Tomorrow said:
Really depends on his starting price, would need to be very low for me to consider. 80 with a well timed spike game might be worth it, but he's had 8 100+ scores in 70 games. Not really gambling odd's.

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Clark (priced 57? with one season 80+) and Lever (priced at 68, one season 80+) being the best mid-price options suggests GnR is the way for me. Both of them love an injury too.

Did Ben Long keep D/F? He's a shittruck imo but the Suns got him to play half back. Priced at 60 and scored 142 in round 23 playing as a seagull.
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yeah he did......but could lose Fwd at the 1st DPP change
 

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Choppers said:
If he comes in at that price, (I'm hoping for way less) he'll be no worse than Hunter Clark who av 57 over his 8 games and is Def only whereas Goater is D/M.
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I'm all for the bullishness on Goater, but in Hunter's defence, he fractured his jaw in several places two seasons ago, and then got a compound fracture through his nasal cavity last year. They aren't soft tissue injuries, and surely he's overdue some half decent luck. He's also in a contract year and he's got a new defensively minded coach. His best is pretty elite.
 
Maybe Tomorrow said:
Clark (priced 57? with one season 80+) and Lever (priced at 68, one season 80+) being the best mid-price options suggests GnR is the way for me. Both of them love an injury too.
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Surely Goodwin does everything in his power to get Lever back into a starring role. Its hard to imagine Melbourne having a genuine second tilt without JL and May back in tandem.
But moreover, the reason I'm even looking at him and Clark is because the defensive rookie stocks appear pretty bleak. How do you prep for a GnR line-up when there are bugger all rookies for your backline who are likely to appear round 1?
 
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Maybe Tomorrow said:
Clark (priced 57? with one season 80+)
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One last thing re Hunter Clark. Surely he's not going to be priced 57 after he was out with an injury for all but 8 games last year?

Doesn't that qualify for like 20% or something off? (not exactly sure on the rules re injury discounts)
 
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Makeshift Park said:
One last thing re Hunter Clark. Surely he's not going to be priced 57 after he was out with an injury for all but 8 games last year?

Doesn't that qualify for like 20% or something off? (not exactly sure on the rules re injury discounts)
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Av of 57 prices him at 310-315K. Reckon he should go anywhere from. 210K-260K, only playing 8 games.
 
Makeshift Park said:
In terms of rookie-priced defenders, who do we think is a decent shot at round 1? ie. Who should we be keeping an eye on over the preseason?

My shortlist at the moment is Darcy Wilmot, Campbell Chesser, Reuben Ginbey, Max Michalanney, and Josh Weddle.

Depending on how he's priced, Conor McKenna might be worth a squiz.

And surely Hunter Clark gets a solid injury discount that brings him down to something close to the cost of a rookie?

Who else is there for the D5-D8 spots?
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Freo picked Corey Wagner (D/M) in the national draft, mature ager, 3rd time on a list. Hasn't played AFL since 2019 so should be pretty close to if not rookie priced.

You'd think he'd be a pretty good chance to line up, teams don't often waste national draft picks on 26 year olds to play 2s.

Averaged 21.6 touches a game (84.2 Fantasy per game) for Port Melbourne in '22.

Could slot in on the wing with Acres gone?
 
Jacob Ryan for the Pies may be a smokey. Run and carry defender who is impressing in preseason and could make R1 team. Weddle probably a certainty on my bench. Best case scenario he doesn't play R1.
 
Makeshift Park said:
One last thing re Hunter Clark. Surely he's not going to be priced 57 after he was out with an injury for all but 8 games last year?

Doesn't that qualify for like 20% or something off? (not exactly sure on the rules re injury discounts)
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Maximum discount for injuries is 30%. That's usually when a player misses an entire season.

It can be a bit arbitrary which players get which discounts though (Titch only got 10% when he missed a whole season). I'd be surprised if Clark got more than 10%. Priced about $270-280k he MIGHT be worth it. He has flattered to deceive a bit until now though. And then we have to factor in Ross the Boss.


Makeshift Park said:
Surely Goodwin does everything in his power to get Lever back into a starring role. Its hard to imagine Melbourne having a genuine second tilt without JL and May back in tandem.
But moreover, the reason I'm even looking at him and Clark is because the defensive rookie stocks appear pretty bleak. How do you prep for a GnR line-up when there are bugger all rookies for your backline who are likely to appear round 1?
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Issue with Lever is the same as was made about Salem in the other thread. Most of the high scoring defenders get a decent chuck of kick ins. Without those I don't think Lever has the ceiling to bother with.

Re: GnR - the answer there would be to go 4 or 5 premo's deep in defense. Obviously weakens another line. To soon to worry yet.
 
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kananooks said:
never too soon to start worrying about it.

if someone had made a website where player prices were predicted. id have come up with 72 versions of my team already..
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For me the important things at this point are:

1) to come up with a shortlist of opposition teams’ rookies to track throughout the offseason

2) to get a rough sense of my teams overall composition (the initial premos / mids / rookie ratio) based on the how many rookies are likely to be selected early on
 
Makeshift Park said:
For me the important things at this point are:

1) to come up with a shortlist of opposition teams’ rookies to track throughout the offseason

2) to get a rough sense of my teams overall composition (the initial premos / mids / rookie ratio) based on the how many rookies are likely to be selected early on
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rookies is the hardest and most important part i think.. then comes your mid pricers.. premos will be premos. they go up and down and are always around that top price tier.

im gonna try more mid pricers this season. look for any value i can find. fyfe cunners clark etc
 
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