I’d swap him and Cunners... Cunners to sub.I think Dow should play a full game, probably replacing the injured player that we usually find out about on Fridays
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I’d swap him and Cunners... Cunners to sub.I think Dow should play a full game, probably replacing the injured player that we usually find out about on Fridays
I'm not saying feeling fed up is an unreasonable position. I'm sick of seeing this board flooded with faces I only ever see when we've lost, all too happy to post criticism of club, coach and player but without a positive word in their mouths for any after a victory. It makes me more than a little irritated, because there are people whose positivity has seen them leave this forum because they feel attacked or derided by these people after a bad loss.Think it can feel that way Geth but I like to think people watched the game and had a big sigh of relief. Some peace. Well deserved for all supporters watching and/or turning up
Play them both and use Martin as the sub. He clearly can't run out a whole game, so bring him on half-way through the third qtrI’d swap him and Cunners... Cunners to sub.
saw the game live at the G, then watched the replay last night.Great win!
RE: Owies he is clever, gets into some good positions to get himself on the scoresheet and generally shows a lot more footy nous than our other smalls but Jesus is he slow. Far too often defenders beat him for pace to get to the footy and skip away from him (and our forward 50) far too easily.
Happy for him he's kicking goals and he is deserving of his place in the side but it would be disappointing for us as a club if Motlop and Durdin can't go past him as a footballer in the next 12 months.
Big no to this.Play them both and use Martin as the sub. He clearly can't run out a whole game, so bring him on half-way through the third qtr
The side steps, shimmies and evasiveness from Cunners and Martin is underrated.
The joint (Carlton)has been ****ed for 20 years mate. What do you expect?I'm not saying feeling fed up is an unreasonable position. I'm sick of seeing this board flooded with faces I only ever see when we've lost, all too happy to post criticism of club, coach and player but without a positive word in their mouths for any after a victory. It makes me more than a little irritated, because there are people whose positivity has seen them leave this forum because they feel attacked or derided by these people after a bad loss.
We hide behind humour, but one gets an impression that some of our supporter base has conditions on their support. When your own support is not conditional, that tends to grate.
Objectively speaking, Dow has to play...He stood out, he is quick and that's not common in our midfield.
He looked great
You don't think that Dow looked ok yesterday?What?!
There's a few names that stick out ahead of him in our players 23 & under:
Akeui, Binns, Carroll, Cerra, Cottrell, Cowan, De Koning, Dow, Durdin, Hollands, Honey, Kemp, Lemmey, Mirkov, Motlop, O'Brien, O'Keeffe, Philp, Walsh
I wouldn't want to put Jack in the backline now. You're either putting him in for Cincotta or Boyd, which dramatically slows us down and reduces our run form the back half, or you're saying to play him instead of Kemp or McGovern, which again is a reduction in leg speed but also marking ability.
From where I'm sitting, he's depth only.
I reckon theres a few would rather we lose cos it vindicates their stance. Supporter is not the right word for that though.After 2 hours last week, we were up to more than 20 pages. 2 hours yesterday, and we had 6.
A portion of our supporter base seem to be around solely for the kicking. 'Fed up' might be how they feel, but that isn't my definition of support.
I challenge anyone to list 3 genuine positives from this year.....I reckon theres a few would rather we lose cos it vindicates their stance. Supporter is not the right word for that though.
Cerra, Charlie, KempI challenge anyone to list 3 genuine positives from this year.....
He looked alright, but also a little hard to judge in the final 15 mins when we're up by about 10 goals.You don't think that Dow looked ok yesterday?
1. I am alive thats a positive for me (though not necessarily everone would agree....)I challenge anyone to list 3 genuine positives from this year.....
I like the point of difference he brings to the midfield, I'd like to have a good look at he and Cuningham flying in the same team.He looked alright, but also a little hard to judge in the final 15 mins when we're up by about 10 goals.
I was responding to a claim that he looked about the best of our players under 24, and he's daylight off the likes of Cerra & Walsh.
Not sure I'd be elevating him into the starting 22 next game, because we're sure as hell not dropping Cerra, Cripps, Walsh or Kennedy after their performances, and I actually like the difference we seemed to get from having DC & Fog on the flanks & pinch hitting on-ball.
I'd be pretty keen to keep that midfield structure/balance/CBA-split for the next game to get another look at it, and if Dow comes in he's got to play on-ball like he did after coming on as sub.
When we win our 6th on the trot, knocking off the Pies or Dons, you can compare thread lengths.After 2 hours last week, we were up to more than 20 pages. 2 hours yesterday, and we had 6.
A portion of our supporter base seem to be around solely for the kicking. 'Fed up' might be how they feel, but that isn't my definition of support.
Cerra, Hollands (early on ) and beating GeelongI challenge anyone to list 3 genuine positives from this year.....
I'm not saying feeling fed up is an unreasonable position. I'm sick of seeing this board flooded with faces I only ever see when we've lost, all too happy to post criticism of club, coach and player but without a positive word in their mouths for any after a victory. It makes me more than a little irritated, because there are people whose positivity has seen them leave this forum because they feel attacked or derided by these people after a bad loss.
We hide behind humour, but one gets an impression that some of our supporter base has conditions on their support. When your own support is not conditional, that tends to grate.
The last 2 weeks Martin has been subbed out at 3 qtr time, and had no more than 8 possessions. I want him to do well, but all he has ever done is tease us with his potential. We need to move past him.Big no to this.
Martin and Cuners are the X factor we crave....and are only just warming up post lengthy layoffs.
Dow in for Fogarty, if anyone.
I think the comment 'expecting everyone to be flooding back in droves praising Carlton to the heavens' isn't the fairest of depictions of my position, BM.Toxic positivity is a thing and I've seen people use it a weapon here to talk themselves up while they take whacks at other supporters. A lot of people are afraid to post on forums in general because they are worried about how others will treat them. It's understandable but the word forum itself is associated with discussion and if they struggle with accepting opposing/negative pov about Carlton that's their hurdle to overcome. Autopsy threads right after a loss are never going to be the best place for feel good vibes and most people are going to be running red hot with emotion. Mods do a good job here but supporters tearing at each other because of being "too positive" or "too negative" is pointless.
Unfortunately people are hardwired to focus on negatives over positives for survival reasons and they are more likely to post when they are emotionally compromised than when they are feeling good after a win. People tend to engage with things the most when they are frustrated. Just look at talk back radio after a loss compared to a win.
There are very few things in life that deserve your unconditional support and a football club shouldn't be one of them. Carlton isn't exactly innocent and it doesn't need any white knights. People can have grievances with something and still be supporters. We've tolerated decades of ineptitude and the humiliating salary cap scandal. Very few people supporting Carlton are fair weather at this point.
Expecting everyone to be flooding back in droves praising Carlton to the heavens after yesterdays win is a bit odd. It was a good win but 2023 like 2022, 2021, 2020 etc has been very disappointing. Personally I was glad to watch us win yesterday even with Kayo's s**t stream trying to ruin it but it tasted bittersweet because we rarely play like that when it's do or die.
Heres hoping the club gets as much value out of the season as it can but now would be a poor time to question each others support for the club.
He had more impact with his 8 possessions yesterday than some players have with 20. His problem is a lack of continuity otherwise I'd imagine that he'd be one of the first picked every time.The last 2 weeks Martin has been subbed out at 3 qtr time, and had no more than 8 possessions. I want him to do well, but all he has ever done is tease us with his potential. We need to move past him.
Toxic positivity is a thing and I've seen people use it a weapon here to talk themselves up while they take whacks at other supporters. A lot of people are afraid to post on forums in general because they are worried about how others will treat them. It's understandable but the word forum itself is associated with discussion and if they struggle with accepting opposing/negative pov about Carlton that's their hurdle to overcome. Autopsy threads right after a loss are never going to be the best place for feel good vibes and most people are going to be running red hot with emotion. Mods do a good job here but supporters tearing at each other because of being "too positive" or "too negative" is pointless.
Unfortunately people are hardwired to focus on negatives over positives for survival reasons and they are more likely to post when they are emotionally compromised than when they are feeling good after a win. People tend to engage with things the most when they are frustrated. Just look at talk back radio after a loss compared to a win.
There are very few things in life that deserve your unconditional support and a football club shouldn't be one of them. Carlton isn't exactly innocent and it doesn't need any white knights. People can have grievances with something and still be supporters. We've tolerated decades of ineptitude and the humiliating salary cap scandal. Very few people supporting Carlton are fair weather at this point.
Expecting everyone to be flooding back in droves praising Carlton to the heavens after yesterdays win is a bit odd. It was a good win but 2023 like 2022, 2021, 2020 etc has been very disappointing. Personally I was glad to watch us win yesterday even with Kayo's s**t stream trying to ruin it but it tasted bittersweet because we rarely play like that when it's do or die.
Heres hoping the club gets as much value out of the season as it can but now would be a poor time to question each others support for the club.