VFL 2023 Swans Reserves

[Bloods86]

One of Hickey or Ladhams will be in the VFL round 1. We've seen that they don't work as a tandem, and Reid is basically the perfect backup ruckman. I assume Owen's experience as a forward in juniors will mean he's getting the least amount of ruck work, I don't know if that means McAndrew will be getting enough ruck time though. I think it's fair to assume McLean and Amartey will get exactly 0 hitouts between them all season at VFL level and will only attend ruck contests at AFL level if Reid gets hurt, as Logan and Buddy can't do it at all. So to summarise, yeah you're right to be concerned about where McAndrew fits into the picture

With both Ladhams and Hickey on the list, Ladhams played 7 VFL games, Hickey played 2. With injury, suspensions, and holding one of them for seniors when required, they'll miss plenty of VFL games. So McAndrew and Owen will get plenty of opportunity as the main rucks. Even so, you would expect that whichever is physically readier, will be the main backup to Ladhams/Hickey, or the main ruck. It may be that Owen (204/94) jumps in front of McAndrew (209/101), but I don't see the problem.

Neither McAndrew or Owen were really drafted to be playing regular seniors this year or even next year (it was clear that McAndrew needed 2-3 years before even getting a sniff). In 2024, if they are both still with us, they'll be getting plenty of ruck minutes since Ladhams, Amartey and McLean won't be at reserves level anymore, readying them for when they might be needed.

 

[Ticky009]

Can we talk about the new coach? I know nothing about him - is he any good?

 

[AnUltimateRessie]

Can we talk about the new coach? I know nothing about him - is he any good?

Coached GWS VFL last year and led them to a measly 13th has also previously spent time as the Bendigo Pioneers coach, Development coach at Carlton and Richmond. He has even spent some time doing some coaching in the NRL. He is a very experienced man.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Coached GWS VFL last year and led them to a measly 13th has also previously spent time as the Bendigo Pioneers coach, Development coach at Carlton and Richmond. He has even spent some time doing some coaching in the NRL. He is a very experienced man.

Absolutely no issue with the guy but I'm a bit surprised we didn't snag someone with a stronger Swans connection.

 

[SeanM]

With the possibility of Ladhams starting in the VFL, signing of Owens and the need to give some ruck time to Amartey, McLean and maybe Edwards (they all need to be ready to be the chop out ruck if required), McAndrew's minutes as a pure ruck will be limited unless he starts to show some significant progress.

I have not been overly impressed with him over the last 18 months and I wouldn't be surprised if Owens quickly passes him in the pecking order.

I think it still has been useful having McAndrew as a developing ruck on the list.

At the start of this year in preseason, there was a period where he was the only fit ruck. So he was the only ruck available for the mids to practice stoppages with.

 

[Bloods86]

I think it still has been useful having McAndrew as a developing ruck on the list.

At the start of this year in preseason, there was a period where he was the only fit ruck. So he was the only ruck available for the mids to practice stoppages with.

I just think people need to give him time. Started playing footy in 2020, showed enough to get drafted in 2021. 209cm, was 93kg at the time, now 101kg. Gawn and Witts are the same height, neither are tanks, but they still have an extra 10kg on him. I still think he's got another couple of years of physical development to go, and with a better run with injury, hopefully has a good year. I haven't been disappointed, because he's clearly a project player.

 

[Ticky009]

Absolutely no issue with the guy but I'm a bit surprised we didn't snag someone with a stronger Swans connection.

Happy to get some outside blood in. In house preferences don't always work out in a clubs favour.

 

[Maximumlnsanity]

Happy to get some outside blood in. In house preferences don't always work out in a clubs favour.

I'm still not a fan of Ben Mathews as our backline coach tbh, we can turn into a sieve at a moments notice

 

[Ticky009]

I'm still not a fan of Ben Mathews as our backline coach tbh, we can turn into a sieve at a moments notice

Think that's got more to do with what's happening up field than down back. I will give you that early this season we weren't at our best, but when Fox came in I thought the back 6 as a whole looked way better because of it.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Think that's got more to do with what's happening up field than down back. I will give you that early this season we weren't at our best, but when Fox came in I thought the back 6 as a whole looked way better because of it.

Considering Fox, Florent and Paddy only became settled members this season and Blakey has SFA experience I think they did pretty well as they got to know each other.
Consider the number of games together the other top 4 defences had together.
How much credit or blame Mathews deserves I have no idea but I imagine Rd1 will look a lot like that back 7 unless injury or unexpected form loss intervenes.

 

[Ticky009]

Considering Fox, Florent and Paddy only became settled members this season and Blakey has SFA experience I think they did pretty well as they got to know each other.
Consider the number of games together the other top 4 defences had together.
How much credit or blame Mathews deserves I have no idea but I imagine Rd1 will look a lot like that back 7 unless injury or unexpected form loss intervenes.

Outside of Lloyd & Rampey our backline is rather young in experience in playing defence. Florent, Blakey & McCartin only stared playing down back this year full time.

 

[Kirkswan]

I'm still not a fan of Ben Mathews as our backline coach tbh, we can turn into a sieve at a moments notice

Can we have some instances of this? Not including the GF? Just so I can see if I'm on the some page?

I think there were a few random games, where out defence seemed a little off, but imo, that had a lot to do with our midfield.

 

[SydneyBlood]

Just read the i/v with new VFL coach Truslove on the Swans site from a few days back. Mentions Bartholomeaus, Collis, Shipley, Morrison coming from this season's VFL squad being back for next year. Mentions some new players (not by name) who have joined that he is excited to coach and four more players from the Swans Academy in the squad too.

Has the full squad been announced officially? Can't find any details, if so. Possibly no Adam Gulden who was captain last season based on his comments, or lack thereof.

 

[AnUltimateRessie]

Just read the i/v with new VFL coach Truslove on the Swans site from a few days back. Mentions Bartholomeaus, Collis, Shipley, Morrison coming from this season's VFL squad being back for next year. Mentions some new players (not by name) who have joined that he is excited to coach and four more players from the Swans Academy in the squad too.

Has the full squad been announced officially? Can't find any details, if so. Possibly no Adam Gulden who was captain last season based on his comments, or lack thereof.

No full squad as of yet. I haven't heard anything about Gulden.

 

[Ticky009]

Swans have announced the first group of players for VFL Team this year:

Primary List
FIRST NAME	LAST NAME	DATE OF BIRTH	2022 LOCAL CLUB
Jake	Bartholomaeus	27/08/1997	Sydney Swans VFL
William	Collis	9/20/96	Sydney Swans VFL
Max	Geddes	3/21/01	Sydney Swans VFL
Ethan	Grace	1/11/03	Giants Academy / VFL
Harry	Morrison	7/11/98	Sydney Swans VFL
Nic	Shipley	6/25/99	Sydney Swans VFL
Jake	Veale	8/12/97	North Shore FC
Development List
FIRST NAME	LAST NAME	DATE OF BIRTH	2022 LOCAL CLUB
Hamish	Morrison	9/6/04	Sydney Swans Academy
Toby	Alker	3/16/03	Sydney Swans Academy
Christian	Webster	7/16/04	Sydney Swans Academy
Montague (Monty)	Velthuis	9/15/99

Note: The current list is not finalised and will be updated accordingly as new players sign for the upcoming season.

Players confirmed for 2023 VFL Season

The Sydney Swans have confirmed a bulk of their VFL squad for the 2023 campaign, with some familiar names and new faces forming part of a skillful playing group that will play under new coach, Damian Truslove.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

 

[rustycrate]

Hi all and welcome to this years thread.

Swans have announced the first group of players for VFL Team this year:

Primary List
FIRST NAME	LAST NAME	DATE OF BIRTH	2022 LOCAL CLUB
Jake	Bartholomaeus	27/08/1997	Sydney Swans VFL
William	Collis	9/20/96	Sydney Swans VFL
Max	Geddes	3/21/01	Sydney Swans VFL
Ethan	Grace	1/11/03	Giants Academy / VFL
Harry	Morrison	7/11/98	Sydney Swans VFL
Nic	Shipley	6/25/99	Sydney Swans VFL
Jake	Veale	8/12/97	North Shore FC
Development List
FIRST NAME	LAST NAME	DATE OF BIRTH	2022 LOCAL CLUB
Hamish	Morrison	9/6/04	Sydney Swans Academy
Toby	Alker	3/16/03	Sydney Swans Academy
Christian	Webster	7/16/04	Sydney Swans Academy
Montague (Monty)	Velthuis	9/15/99

Note: The current list is not finalised and will be updated accordingly as new players sign for the upcoming season.

Players confirmed for 2023 VFL Season

The Sydney Swans have confirmed a bulk of their VFL squad for the 2023 campaign, with some familiar names and new faces forming part of a skillful playing group that will play under new coach, Damian Truslove.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

I've heard indhi Kirk wants to remain in the Swans Academy for another year. I think they can do that. That is probably why he is not listed.

 

[hairy biker]

Hi all and welcome to the new thread.

Swans have announced the first group of players for VFL Team this year:

Erm there's already a 5 page 2023 Reserves thread?

2nds - Swans Reserves 2023

Merge? (With the RESERVES prefix )

 

[Ticky009]

Erm there's already a 5 page 2023 Reserves thread?

2nds - Swans Reserves 2023

Merge? (With the RESERVES prefix )

Right. Prefix was 2nds I missed it....and started in November..good god. Sure, I'll merge them in a bit. Done.

 

[Ticky009]

Hi all, Season Dates including Finals have been added to the thread as post #2. You can find via the Threadmark at the top of the page.

 

[AnUltimateRessie]

Swans have announced the first group of players for VFL Team this year:

Primary List
FIRST NAME	LAST NAME	DATE OF BIRTH	2022 LOCAL CLUB
Jake	Bartholomaeus	27/08/1997	Sydney Swans VFL
William	Collis	9/20/96	Sydney Swans VFL
Max	Geddes	3/21/01	Sydney Swans VFL
Ethan	Grace	1/11/03	Giants Academy / VFL
Harry	Morrison	7/11/98	Sydney Swans VFL
Nic	Shipley	6/25/99	Sydney Swans VFL
Jake	Veale	8/12/97	North Shore FC
Development List
FIRST NAME	LAST NAME	DATE OF BIRTH	2022 LOCAL CLUB
Hamish	Morrison	9/6/04	Sydney Swans Academy
Toby	Alker	3/16/03	Sydney Swans Academy
Christian	Webster	7/16/04	Sydney Swans Academy
Montague (Monty)	Velthuis	9/15/99

Note: The current list is not finalised and will be updated accordingly as new players sign for the upcoming season.

Players confirmed for 2023 VFL Season

The Sydney Swans have confirmed a bulk of their VFL squad for the 2023 campaign, with some familiar names and new faces forming part of a skillful playing group that will play under new coach, Damian Truslove.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

Here are some bits and bobs on the VFL list:

• Max Geddes, Jake Bartholomaeus, Harry Morrison, Will Collis and Nic Shipley are the returning players.
• Jake Veale from the North Shore Bombers, returns to reserves level previously playing 20 matches for the Sydney Swans across 2015/2016. He returned to the NEAFL in 2019 for Sydney Uni and played a further 19 matches.
• Ethan Grace follows Damian Truslove to the Sydney Swans VFL Squad. Grace played six games for the GWS Giants VFL in 2022 and averaged 10.3 disposals. He split the rest of 2022 between the GWS academy team and East Coast Eagles in AFL Sydney. Also included a game for the Allies.
• Montague Velthuis is from Sydney Uni in AFL Sydney and played mostly reserves in 2022.

No Adam Gulden? I'm hoping that's just because he is playing NTFL at the moment and he'll return to the club for the start of the season

 

[Ticky009]

Here are some bits and bobs on the VFL list:

• Max Geddes, Jake Bartholomaeus, Harry Morrison, Will Collis and Nic Shipley are the returning players.
• Jake Veale from the North Shore Bombers, returns to reserves level previously playing 20 matches for the Sydney Swans across 2015/2016. He returned to the NEAFL in 2019 for Sydney Uni and played a further 19 matches.
• Ethan Grace follows Damian Truslove to the Sydney Swans VFL Squad. Grace played six games for the GWS Giants VFL in 2022 and averaged 10.3 disposals. He split the rest of 2022 between the GWS academy team and East Coast Eagles in AFL Sydney. Also included a game for the Allies.
• Montague Velthuis is from Sydney Uni in AFL Sydney and played mostly reserves in 2022.

No Adam Gulden? I'm hoping that's just because he is playing NTFL at the moment and he'll return to the club for the start of the season

Haven't heard anything in regard to Gulden - can't imagine him not returning - thought he was a good captain for us last year.

 

[AnUltimateRessie]

Haven't heard anything in regard to Gulden - can't imagine him not returning - thought he was a good captain for us last year.

Yeah, no news is usually good news this early in the VFL world.

 

[bedford]

Yeah, no news is usually good news this early in the VFL world.

Harry Morrison's home club is Old Geelong in the VAFA and Will Collis played a game there last year as well

 

[bedford]

I think i've got a draft of the fixture will put it up later

 

[bedford]

R1 March 25 BOX HILL h
2 April 1 CASEY a
3 8 BYE
4 15 NORTH h
5 22 NORTHERN a
6 29 BYE
7 May 6 FRANKSTON a
8 13 WILLIAMSTOWN h
9 20 PORT MELBOURNE a
10 27 CARLTON h
11 June 3 BYE
12 10 SANDRINGHAM h
13 17 BRISBANE a
14 24 COLLINGWOOD a
15 July 1 GEELONG h
16 8 RICHMOND a
17 15 FOOTSCRAY h
18 22 BYE
19 29 ESSENDON a
20 August 5 GWS a
21 12 GOLD COAST h
22 19 WERRIBEE h

Those dates are just a guide for that weekend