Play Nice 2024 AFL and State League Attendance

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I said to my friend last year that is a blues fan when she said 'you'd be spewing how well we're doing' that 'nuh I'm not actually, I've always thought Essendon will only come good when Carlton do and vice versa, it's been that way my whole life'. Turns out it's happening yet again (if we don't completely bottle the second half of the year that is).
In many ways their form have moved in similar cycles, I didn’t actually think of that but you’re right.
 
After Round 11 (excluding Gather Round)

HOME CROWDS
Club (# of home games played) = Total (Average)
  • Collingwood (4) = 246,125 (61,531)
  • Carlton (6) = 357,069 (59,512)
  • Essendon (5) = 292,281 (58,456)
  • Richmond (6) = 297,824 (49,637)
  • West Coast (5) = 239,698 (47,940)
  • Fremantle (5) = 237,805 (47,561)
  • Adelaide (5) = 224,807 (44,961)
  • Melbourne (4) = 176,396 (44,099)
  • Geelong (5) = 219,084 (43,817)
  • Sydney (5) = 194,999 (39,000)
  • Hawthorn (5) = 193,808 (38,762)
  • Port Adelaide (5) = 183,489 (36,698)
  • St Kilda (4) = 142,510 (35,628)
  • Brisbane Lions (5) = 155,303 (31,061)
  • Western Bulldogs (5) = 139,819 (27,964)
  • North Melbourne (5) = 105,873 (21,175)
  • Gold Coast (6) = 78,040 (13,007)
  • GWS (5) = 62,544 (12,509)

HOME AND AWAY CROWDS
Club (# of games played) = Total (Average)
  • Collingwood (10) = 606,940 (60,694)
  • Carlton (10) = 569,823 (56,982)
  • Essendon (10) = 555,189 (55,519)
  • Richmond (10) = 478,656 (47,866)
  • Melbourne (10) = 473,193 (47,319)
  • Sydney (10) = 430,671 (43,067)
  • Geelong (10) = 425,198 (42,520)
  • Adelaide (10) = 402,883 (40,288)
  • Fremantle (10) = 397,042 (39,704)
  • West Coast (10) = 385,757 (38,576)
  • Hawthorn (10) = 377,906 (37,791)
  • Port Adelaide (10) = 366,331 (36,633)
  • St Kilda (10) = 331,543 (33,154)
  • Brisbane Lions (10) = 322,027 (32,203)
  • Western Bulldogs (10) = 302,323 (30,232)
  • GWS (10) = 253,872 (25,387)
  • North Melbourne (10) = 222,271 (22,227)
  • Gold Coast (10) = 193,323 (19,332)
Feels like this is Freo's best average home attendance - still have a couple of bigger drawing home games as well - Richmond, Eagles + Geelong - and then if they're in contention could be pushing close to 48-50k average. Previously I think the average was around 40-42k at the most.
 
Collingwood Melbourne General Public is now sold out (incuding standing room and restricted view).
AFL has sold half of standing room and a few single seats on level 4 back.
MCC is very similar to Essendon Carlton probabaly 10% ahead (shows the big difference between category 1 and 2 and allowing provisional members in)

Hoping for close to 90K for both games.
 

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I believe this is the biggest Essendon v Carlton match since Round 11, 2013. It was the Essendon 140 year anniversary match and the match lived up to expectations. (The Jake Melksham match winning goal with a couple of minutes left). It was 5th v 6th heading into the match.
 
Am I right in observing that since Dillon took over as CEO there is alot more willingness to put non Vic teams on Thursday and Friday nights?

Dillon seems more focused on national exposure than Gillion was, which I think is a good thing.
 
Feels like this is Freo's best average home attendance - still have a couple of bigger drawing home games as well - Richmond, Eagles + Geelong - and then if they're in contention could be pushing close to 48-50k average. Previously I think the average was around 40-42k at the most.
Yep it's currently Freo's highest home attendance average.

Fremantle's home attendance average:
  • 1995 = 23,361
  • 1996 = 22,473
  • 1997 = 21,982
  • 1998 = 23,104
  • 1999 = 23,972
  • 2000 = 22,357
  • 2001 = 21,258
  • 2002 = 26,359
  • 2003 = 30,681
  • 2004 = 36,258
  • 2005 = 35,224
  • 2006 = 36,569
  • 2007 = 37,474
  • 2008 = 35,877
  • 2009 = 33,144
  • 2010 = 36,572
  • 2011 = 34,394
  • 2012 = 33,386
  • 2013 = 34,266
  • 2014 = 35,931
  • 2015 = 36,210
  • 2016 = 31,416
  • 2017 = 32,375
Move to Optus Stadium
  • 2018 = 41,764
  • 2019 = 40,896
  • 2020 = 16,215 (Covid restrictions)
  • 2021 = 30,008 (Covid restrictions)
  • 2022 = 40,460
  • 2023 = 44,097 (excluding Gather Round)
  • 2024 = 47,561 (excluding Gather Round)
 
I don’t think that mark is likely broken. We’ve seen no evidence that any h/a game excl ANZAC Day can draw over 90k in recent times.

Few things going for it though, you are right it will be hard to hit 90.

Can only really think of flag unfurling and Hird/sheedy that has got there outside Anzac Day?

The new blockbuster factor.
Bombers reserved seats will have a higher turn out than Marvel.
I think Essendon home game helps a lot too.




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Few things going for it though, you are right it will be hard to hit 90.

Can only really think of flag unfurling and Hird/sheedy that has got there outside Anzac Day?

The new blockbuster factor.
Bombers reserved seats will have a higher turn out than Marvel.
I think Essendon home game helps a lot too.




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That Sheedy / Hird game drew ~88,500 so it also fell just short.

Essendon reserved seats whilst likely to record a high show rate, there’s always a group who can’t / don’t go and don’t bother returning their seats for resale. Even if it’s ~2-3K seats of their ~17,500 (15-20%) then that’s the defining factor tipping scales against it.

Its reasonable to assume it will be a complete sellout in all areas except club member no shows, under utilisation of corporate suites and perhaps the fact they won’t release standing room in the MCC means that 93-94k ANZAC type crowd becomes 87/88k pretty quickly…. And that assumes fine weather!!
 
Yep it's currently Freo's highest home attendance average.

Fremantle's home attendance average:
  • 1995 = 23,361
  • 1996 = 22,473
  • 1997 = 21,982
  • 1998 = 23,104
  • 1999 = 23,972
  • 2000 = 22,357
  • 2001 = 21,258
  • 2002 = 26,359
  • 2003 = 30,681
  • 2004 = 36,258
  • 2005 = 35,224
  • 2006 = 36,569
  • 2007 = 37,474
  • 2008 = 35,877
  • 2009 = 33,144
  • 2010 = 36,572
  • 2011 = 34,394
  • 2012 = 33,386
  • 2013 = 34,266
  • 2014 = 35,931
  • 2015 = 36,210
  • 2016 = 31,416
  • 2017 = 32,375
Move to Optus Stadium
  • 2018 = 41,764
  • 2019 = 40,896
  • 2020 = 16,215 (Covid restrictions)
  • 2021 = 30,008 (Covid restrictions)
  • 2022 = 40,460
  • 2023 = 44,097 (excluding Gather Round)
  • 2024 = 47,561 (excluding Gather Round)

Just gonna mention, that the first 4 weeks of the season in 2022, Perth Stadium was still affected by covid capacity restrictions. The first two weeks were 50% capacity, and weeks 3 and 4 were 75% capacity.

That was the back end of the first wave of Covid in the community in WA after the borders opened in December 2021, when enough of the population was vaccinated.

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Which means if there wasn’t restrictions for those two Freo Home games, there may have been an extra 15,000-25,000 attendants for the season, increasing the average for 2022 into the 42,000’s
 
Just gonna mention, that the first 4 weeks of the season in 2022, Perth Stadium was still affected by covid capacity restrictions. The first two weeks were 50% capacity, and weeks 3 and 4 were 75% capacity.

That was the back end of the first wave of Covid in the community in WA after the borders opened in December 2021, when enough of the population was vaccinated.

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Which means if there wasn’t restrictions for those two Freo Home games, there may have been an extra 15,000-25,000 attendants for the season, increasing the average for 2022 into the 42,000’s
Thanks for pointing that out. I forgot WA still had restrictions as late as that time.
 

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They just realised a fair few seats for Geelong vs Richmond this afternoon; I’m not sure why they held them back so long as you haven’t been able to buy two seats together in weeks.
 
They just realised a fair few seats for Geelong vs Richmond this afternoon; I’m not sure why they held them back so long as you haven’t been able to buy two seats together in weeks.
They are Geelong members who have returned their seats to the club for this match. They then get a discount on their membership next year if their seats sell. Always released on a Thursday for weekend games.
They do it for every game in Geelong (all interstate clubs do this as well)
 
They are Geelong members who have returned their seats to the club for this match. They then get a discount on their membership next year if their seats sell. Always released on a Thursday for weekend games.
They do it for every game in Geelong (all interstate clubs do this as well)
Essendon also now do this too…
 
Gee next Sunday night is going to be huge regardless of Sunday.

Why on earth would the AFL, MCC and Essendon not want to open every single inch of standing like at a Grand final?

It doesn’t make sense.

Let’s not pretend the Grand Final number Isn’t inflated to just over 100K every year away.


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Gee next Sunday night is going to be huge regardless of Sunday.

Why on earth would the AFL, MCC and Essendon not want to open every single inch of standing like at a Grand final?

It doesn’t make sense.

Let’s not pretend the Grand Final number Isn’t inflated to just over 100K every year away.


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Exactly. I might be alone in this theory but I don’t think the GF has 100k in the house. I reckon they count security, drones and anything else! I reckon it’s more like 98-99k.

Maximising next weeks attendance required two things to happen:

1. Essendon win Sunday
2. Decent weatger

If Essendon lose, reality is a small number won’t go following week. We might be talking 300-400 but that’s a decent number.

If it’s wet, looking wet, that has a greater impact.

As it is, hard to see it being over 88,000 tbh.
 
Is Essendon vs Carlton sold out? I was looking for tickets but can’t seem to find any.
My mates (blues and bomber supporters) were wanting to go and last night on ticketek website could only find seats at the back of the Olympic stand. I mean right at the back of level 4!
 
That is great crowd for Port on a Thursday night!It looked like quite a few Carlton fans were there as well.
Yeah, this is overs for mine! Plus the fact the Blues were playing too which helped the crowd figure go up. Not sure this would have been 40,000 without a Big 4 Vic club or Adelaide being the oppo
 
It is a pity that Port got beaten so badly in the end and that will most likely have a negative impact on Port's crowds from here on in.
 

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