Yeah I remember last year too! Was a Saturday night too. Not sure why they think Melbourne v North Melbourne is a Saturday night fixture! It’s a Sunday 1:10 pm type game.
I’m thinking between 27,000-30,000 for this one!
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I’m thinking between 27,000-30,000 for this one!
Correct, I think the current intakes are from the 1995-2005 era of new applications. That was a period of success for the likes of Essendon, who were also moving from WH to the G for home games and this likely saw Bomber fans sign up in droves during this decade. It was also a continuation of the down years for the Demons broadly so possibly explains their lost share of this period.
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MCC updated the latest intake as of last Friday:
- Full [up to 1993] = nominated up to 31/01/1993.
- Restricted [1993-2001] = nominated between 1/02/1993 - 31/01/2001.
- Provisional [2001-2007] = nominated between 1/02/2001 - 31/12/2007.
- Waiting [2008-Present] = nominated from 1/01/2008 onwards.
Thanks, I wasn’t far off.
This would explain the Essendon increased share. We will possibly see ongoing growth of Collingwood and Hawthorn relative to the Demons over the forthcoming decade, reflecting the Pies moving to the G full time and the Demons misery into the 2010’s too I guess.
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I'll see what I can do
Agreed, would be low 30s if it was a day game and parents could bring kids along.
Gonna be the same story when we play GWS and Port on Saturday nights.
AFL crowds should be judged by AFL standards. Comparing GWS crowds to Cronulla whose venue currently impacted by works, or Leichardt Oval which is a state of disrepair is not useful. Canberra will be instantly twice as big as GWS if they ever get a team.
It’s pretty strange to think that the second biggest MCC club isn't even an MCG tenant.
Looking at that list, I doubt that St Kilda, North and the Dogs are going to get much of a look in for MCG games - with North and the Dogs close to the Lions and Swans for MCC support.
If the Dees ever dipped below Essendon or Collingwood they would lose a lot of their clout as an MCG tenant too. Especially with the Dees being the smallest club in the AFL members.
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threenewpadlocks
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There's historic class and geographic factors at play, too.
It's easy to see how a traditional St Kilda family living a single-line train ride away from the MCG might also be an MCC member when a working-class Dogs family having to travel through the city to get to the MCG may not be.
By 'AFL standards' do you actually expect GWS crowds to be compared to southern AFL heartlands?
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AFL standards in that attendances generate revenue and clubs need to generate a minimum amount of revenue, at some point, in the future.
Sure but that's not really alluding to the question I asked.
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The answer is yes, they should be compared to southern states, because GWS still needs to fund football and club operations to vaguely the same extent as clubs in southern states.
Essendon vs Geelong and Melbourne won't get above 80K because Saturday nights don't draw well. Plus Melbourne are on a slide right now.
Pretty sure there would be a huge difference between each southern state club in their ability to fund football and club operations.
Also, these aren’t Essendon home games which makes a decent impact. Cats fans won’t turn up on a Saturday night unless it’s a genuine blockbuster, they will stay home in Geelong.
Further, Essendon aren’t considered genuine league contenders yet and that means the wider footy community won’t pile into stadiums for these contests.
All these factors probably count for about 15-20,000 fans per match not going to these games.
No doubt Essendon had a huge mcc increase due to the 90’s. In another 10 years I expect Collingwood to be no.2 with Melbourne.
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After Round 14 (excluding Gather Round)
HOME CROWDS
Club (# of home games played) = Total (Average)
HOME AND AWAY CROWDS
Club (# of games played) = Total (Average)
HOME CROWDS
Club (# of home games played) = Total (Average)
- Essendon (6) = 380,791 (63,465)
- Collingwood (6) = 374,082 (62,347)
- Carlton (6) = 357,069 (59,512)
- Richmond (7) = 390,135 (55,734)
- Fremantle (5) = 237,805 (47,561)
- West Coast (7) = 330,500 (47,214)
- Adelaide (7) = 303,684 (43,383)
- Geelong (6) = 250,138 (41,690)
- Sydney (6) = 239,713 (39,952)
- Port Adelaide (6) = 224,869 (37,478)
- Melbourne (5) = 182,505 (36,501)
- Hawthorn (7) = 241,462 (34,495)
- St Kilda (5) = 160,502 (32,100)
- Brisbane Lions (6) = 182,748 (30,458)
- Western Bulldogs (7) = 192,895 (27,556)
- North Melbourne (6) = 144,183 (24,031)
- Gold Coast (7) = 99,799 (14,257)
- GWS (6) = 71,458 (11,910)
HOME AND AWAY CROWDS
Club (# of games played) = Total (Average)
- Collingwood (13) = 773,208 (59,478)
- Carlton (12) = 698,865 (58,239)
- Essendon (12) = 665,458 (55,455)
- Richmond (13) = 639,363 (49,182)
- Melbourne (12) = 563,961 (46,997)
- Sydney (12) = 516,920 (43,077)
- Geelong (12) = 500,966 (41,747)
- Hawthorn (13) = 517,871 (39,836)
- Adelaide (13) = 517,846 (39,834)
- West Coast (12) = 477,407 (39,784)
- Fremantle (12) = 424,947 (35,412)
- Port Adelaide (12) = 416,624 (34,719)
- St Kilda (13) = 424,506 (32,654)
- Brisbane Lions (12) = 380,752 (31,729)
- Western Bulldogs (13) = 398,697 (30,669)
- North Melbourne (12) = 303,857 (25,321)
- GWS (12) = 274,354 (22,863)
- Gold Coast (12) = 233,074 (19,423)
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Do we really think supporters are going to join a 25-year waiting list because their club had short term success?
I get the relatively accessible AFL membership but an MCC membership? It doesn't even give you a guaranteed GF ticket.
Most MCC members who support a team in the GF are more likely to get an MCC-club support membership and just enter the club Grand Final ballot anyway. And that's coming from someone who has attended all but one of the last 16 Grand Finals (Perth GF was the outlier), including 5 featuring their team.
If anything, I would say that MCC club support would be the highest tied to multi-generational support (as the parent more often then not nominates the applicants club support when they sign up)
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Absolutely.
The smaller Vic clubs will draw 17k - 20k against interstate clubs when they are at the bottom (North) and 20 - 25k when they are mid table (Dogs) and more when they are at the top.
That should be the benchmark for GWS and GC, not NRL clubs.
We were told in 2009 that the new club would simply need to capture just 1% of the 2.5million folks in western Sydney, to fill their stadium. 15 years later crowds are still 10k and TV ratings are the same as when two Vic clubs are playing. There has been no growth despite being a top team since 2016. GC gets much better crowd despite never really threatening the tip 8z
The league should not be admitting teams that will be forever bottom feeders. Tasmania will be comparable with Dogs and Roos in terms of supoort from day 1.
So, whilst the Giants are doing Ok compared wi to the battling NRL clubs, that is still not good enough for an AFL club.
Ticket sales look like a high 60,000’s / low 70,000 crowd for Carlton v Geelong.
Unless they've already sold out the Ponsford Stand and half the Southern Stand there is plenty of upper level seats available for Friday (far more than the game earlier this year)
There is a good chance that Geelong could slide - based on current form - before the Essendon and Collingwood games regardless which could drop it further
But they were for a length of time when they moved from windy hill to the G. They cashed in with their success in the mid to late 90's, early 2000's at that time joining the MCC. Their main growth in numbers would've been from 25-30 years ago.
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They were only a tenant at the MCG for seven years (1992-1999) though, and only won one flag.
Essendon were an MCG tenant for half the length of North Melbourne (1985-2000), a third of the time of Hawthorn (2000-to-today) and way less than Richmond (1965-to-today) and Melbourne (1858-to-today)
Collingwood has been playing the majority of their home games at the MCG since at least 1994 (not 2000), so they've been a major tenant for ages.
Who knows what the Bombers could have been if McMahon and Jackson didn't sell out their members and move to Marvel Stadium.
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