Live Event 2024 AFL Draft LIVE Thread
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- Apr 24, 2018
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Stocker has actually surprised me since joining us has been solid I definitely don’t think he has been anywhere near as bad as some people make out
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Their next pick was in the sixties so I’m not sure what you mean buy them just waiting 1/2 dozen picks more?
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It's honestly unjustifiable, the trade is easily one of the worst in recent years.
Not only is it completely lopsided, we've also added an insane amount of unnecessary pressure on M. Whitlock as well because he will forever be linked to the 2025 pick, which will be further compounded if we're bottom 3 again.
Richmond have done well, but bloody hell they've been lucky that they get to deal with the intellectual toddlers acting as the GC, WCE and North list managers.
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If reports are correct that st kilda offered 8 and next years first which will be top ten im not sure you can call that deal rubbish it would have been significantly overs really. But in the end north drafted a player at two that will be a star the trade is a risk but at least they are having a crack the only mistake they made was paying overs for daniel
Has Clarko's imprimatur all over it.
Demanded from his list managers to get experienced players into the club, there was an interview earlier in the year where he stated this. Because of his demands (Caleb Daniel) the list managers ended up painting themselves into a corner by taking away trading flexibility.
His disciple, Dimma demanded the same in Rioli and, by extension, Dimmas disciple (McQualter) did exactly the same at WCE by targeting Baker and Graham.
There's a common thread here and it's giving coaches too much say in the trading and drafting of players. They obviously need to provide input by guiding the list builders towards the types that they see impacting the competition in 5 years time, but when that input throws out the recruiters strategy then there's a breakdown leading to confusing and baffling list management decisions.
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It’s an ordinary deal for North. FOS is streets better in talent and there’s no reason St Kilda don’t play finals so that’s 12+ with all the bidding.
FOS “Streets better in talent” than Tauru?
I wouldn’t have thought so. I think Alix is only just starting to scratch the surface of what he’s capable of and what we’ve seen so far is pretty mouth-watering.
And you’re forgetting that had North done that deal, they wouldn’t have needed to do that awful one they did at the end, so they’d still most likely have an almost certain top 4 pick in the open draft next year.
That’s the opportunity cost here. Not FOS v Tauru. It’s FOS v whoever they could have gotten in the top 4 of next year’s open draft.
LukeParkerno1
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I’d still take what North did the Saints trade had to include a pick inside the top 6 this year, 8 was way too low anyway. Makes no sense from North, St Kilda would be running out of the room doing cartwheels though as it gets them in the top bracket giving up very little
North can easily jump right up next season anyway.
Pretty much this .
They basically had/have no plan when or exactly how they wanted to rebuild when this all started back in 2017?
Basically just went into every draft/trade period with “oh well we’ll just draft the best (who we think) player is and the rest will take care of itself( it’s actually damning how similar to melbourns rebuild of the early 2010s they’ve followed ,considering they’ve had the benefit of hindsight )
Coupled with basically ignoring getting in any experience hard bodies for fear of “costing” them draft capital.
See the problem with poor drafting /list management is it’s self fulfilling.
That is poor drafting leads to further
poor drafting and your seeing that now in all its glory with north.
failure to draft anything resembling a decent kpp with a highish pick until only last year (and even then late first/second round territory) sees clubs get desperate and do trades like you seen yesterday .
Anyway Melbourne eventually turned it around and I’m sure north will too but they’ve certainly gone about it the hardest way possible
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Since the end of 2016 when they punted Boomer, Petrie, Dal Santo and Firrito North added Dom Tyson, Jasper Pittard, Jared Polec, Aaron Hall, Josh Walker, Connor Menadue etc, having recently added Higgins, Waite, Jed Anderson, Marley Williams. Even in recent years after it is obvious they are a yearly spoon contender they brought in Aidan Corr, Coleman-Jones, Shiels, Greenwood, Daniel Howe, Zac Fisher, Griffin Logue... It has never really been clear what they are trying to achieve.
Well then.
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You have more confidence than me our draw next season is one of the hardest in the comp our first half of the season is brutal , we also lost one of our most consistent players in battle ,unless there is huge improvement in some of our young players it’s going to be a big effort to play finals . And it’s irrelevant really pick’s getting pushed back due to bidding ect the players that were available at your pick are still there
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Time will tell obviously loosing access to foss would’ve sucked but they could have drafted tauru at 8 who would have been a great fit for them. and had two early picks next season
Giving up our F1 and 8 is “very little”?
Disagree. You said in reply to one of my earlier posts that they only needed to win half of those close losses and they’d have moved right up, yet they apparently only lost 3 games by less than 10 points.
Even if they’d won all of them, and the ones they lost by 10-20, they still would have finished 3rd-last.
If next year is anything like this one, they’ll have their work cut out getting out of the bottom 4, even if they’re much better.
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They can start by not trading out pick 25 for a 28 year old 168cm HBF
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I do not understand how/why they did that. Basically saying they value him and a pick around 30 as a top 5 pick based on their trade last night.
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Rumour on our board that both Tigers and the Dogs have currently declined a trade with Essendon.
I’m not, especially given Matt’s versatility. Gives them options with him and Comben.
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Assuming all else stayed the same id have gone like this.
1. Sam Lalor
7. Toby Travaglia
12. Berry
14. Allen
17. Hannaford
23. Armstrong
27. Dennis
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Who are we expecting Richmond to call out if they don’t accept a trade?
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