Toast 2024 Best and Fairest - Skilton Medal

[Mister B]

Glad Spencer noted the effort Heeney puts in spending time looking out for our young fans. Certainly hasn’t gone unnoticed from my perspective.

 

[Nuggetz]

wtf how did cunningham not get a top 10 place?

 

[KingV23]

What was the top 10?

 

[MightyBloods]

Gutless not to ask Chad to stay beyond 25

Not the time to ask.

 

[Day_night_honourer]

Does any function event trust players to do a speech instead of a q and a

Not where Spencer is involved due to the love of his own voice.

 

[Kbroome]

Not where Spencer is involved due to the love of his own voice.

He has to a certain extent made this BS Medal a hard if not impossible to watch. He feels like a school teacher at times

 

[caesar88]

Looking at our top 10, all I will say is... not surprised we lost a GF.

1st - Heeney
2nd - Gulden
3rd - Warner
4th - Grundy
5th - Blakey
6th - Rowbottom
7th - Florent
8th - Jordon
9th - Lloyd
10th - Papley

 

[Millky95]

Gutless not to ask Chad to stay beyond 25

I'm sure Sydney fans have nothing to worry about

 

[Millky95]

Looking at our top 10, all I will say is... not surprised we lost a GF.

1st - Heeney
2nd - Gulden
3rd - Warner
4th - Grundy
5th - Blakey
6th - Rowbottom
7th - Florent
8th - Jordon
9th - Lloyd
10th - Papley

Because our main midfield plus our AA HBF were in the top 6?

 

[caesar88]

Because our main midfield plus our AA HBF were in the top 6?

Just a lack of defenders and anyone hard.

For comparison, Brisbane had names like Neale, Dunkley, Lester, Andrews, Berry in theirs...

 

[DavyRed]

Well done Heeney. Well deserved.

Horse however acknowledges that they knowingly took injured players into finals.

I’m pretty confident to say that that’s no different to 99% of all other teams who have ever competed in a final. It’s not about taking an injured player into a final, it’s about the risk assessment they undertake when establishing how likely an injured player is to see out the game and perform at a satisfactory level despite the injury.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Yep, I heard Sam's comments as loud as a running train. Talking about the 2012 team that each had a role, forming a chain. No broken link. Maybe that's the theme going into 2025, "No broken link! Put a chain in the players change room. No doubt our game plan needs more accountability and in Horse's reference to his mum, we need "more steel".

Ball and chain at the ankles! i like it!

 

[DavyRed]

Looking at our top 10, all I will say is... not surprised we lost a GF.

1st - Heeney
2nd - Gulden
3rd - Warner
4th - Grundy
5th - Blakey
6th - Rowbottom
7th - Florent
8th - Jordon
9th - Lloyd
10th - Papley

Sorry, it’s getting late, I’m not sure what point you’re making.

Edit: Ignore me, I just saw your subsequent explanation.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Just to make it so much harder to stomach the recent failures we've had, I often imagine had we'd won all the GFs we've been in. Would be 7 flags in 19 years & would make us one of the most successful teams of the modern era. Instead we are a bit of a big day 'easy-beats' club and one most teams want to face on the final stage if they get there, as they stand a very good chance of glory. I hate this and it just makes me feel so bitterly disappointed.
So close to deserving highest of honours, but instead - nothing but rueing what could have been.
**** it's hard.

To compound matters should we get there again ANY opposition would be licking their lips doesnt matter if they finished 8th.

 

[SGBeach]

Looking at our top 10, all I will say is... not surprised we lost a GF.

1st - Heeney
2nd - Gulden
3rd - Warner
4th - Grundy
5th - Blakey
6th - Rowbottom
7th - Florent
8th - Jordon
9th - Lloyd
10th - Papley

As I can't block you, Ive been forced to read your posts tonight. Every single one has been negative. Pretty F**ing offensive really.

 

[Day_night_honourer]

Just a lack of defenders and anyone hard.

For comparison, Brisbane had names like Neale, Dunkley, Lester, Andrews, Berry in theirs...

Saying Heeney or Rowbottom are anything less than hard is a pretty rough call imo.

 

[Bloods86]

Just a lack of defenders and anyone hard.

For comparison, Brisbane had names like Neale, Dunkley, Lester, Andrews, Berry in theirs...

To be fair on Cunningham and Melican, plus Rowy in 6th, we saw on the weekend it's probably more the coaches having no clue.

 

[rustycrate]

Looking at our top 10, all I will say is... not surprised we lost a GF.

1st - Heeney
2nd - Gulden
3rd - Warner
4th - Grundy
5th - Blakey
6th - Rowbottom
7th - Florent
8th - Jordon
9th - Lloyd
10th - Papley

I don't know what you are inferring, but it looks like a quality top 10.
The top 3 were the best all year.
Blakey had a breakout year. No pun intended.
Rowbottom is by far the hardest working Swan every week.
Jordon I loved more and more each week as he nullified his opponent and did good things himself.
Lloyd looks rejuvenated out on a wing with space.
Papley is still the most annoying, creative, productive, instinctive, goal scoring small forward.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Gutless not to ask Chad to stay beyond 25

They never would of put him on the spot like that

 

[The King!]

They never would of put him on the spot like that

Could lock the doors and make him sign

 

[caesar88]

Sorry, it’s getting late, I’m not sure what point you’re making.

The point I'm making is that it's largely a list of uncontested, outside players. The only defender on the list is a mainly uncontested, attacking defender. No key defenders, no lockdown defenders, only two two-way players. You can get a good gist of what we're about from who our coaches perceived to be our top ten performing players. Compare it with Brisbane's top 10 from this year, or our top 10 from our premiership in 2012, and I think you can see where things start to go wrong for us.

It's absolutely not a criticism of the players.

 

[Bloods86]

Could lock the doors and make him sign

As soon as they hand him the pen, he'd take off, inexplicably stop after 2 steps to drop the pen, then run into a pack of security guards.

 

[JackHiscoxWasFast]

Did they post the full list from 11-23 ?

 

[Bloods86]

Personally, I think the best use of the night would have been to wait until they were a fair few drinks in, then have Jude, JPK and Roos turn up, kick all the partners out (to a catered party elsewhere), chain the doors (or put cardboard cutouts of Lions players to prevent any attempts of escape) and put the coaching staff and players through an intense full-contact training session. In suit and ties.

Stream the whole thing. Swans Media would never have seen numbers like it.

 

[rustycrate]

Personally, I think the best use of the night would have been to wait until they were a fair few drinks in, then have Jude, JPK and Roos turn up, kick all the partners out (to a catered party elsewhere), chain the doors (or put cardboard cutouts of Lions players to prevent any attempts of escape) and put the coaching staff and players through an intense full-contact training session. In suit and ties.

Stream the whole thing. Swans Media would never have seen numbers like it.

and what other scenario will you think of tomorrow.

You have not moved on either.