List Mgmt. 2024 Draft - Post Trade Period Edition

[Tzatziki_Man]

How compromised will next years draft be?

North's future 1st is going to be top 4, we won't leave the bottom 4 ourselves

That's two drafts; you gotta do it

2024
Pick 1
Pick 2
Pick 10
Pick 18
Pick 20
Pick 23
pick 24

2025
Picks 1-4
Picks 1-4

 

[tigs2010]

How compromised will next years draft be?

North's future 1st is going to be top 4, we won't leave the bottom 4 ourselves

That's two drafts; you gotta do it

2024
Pick 1
Pick 2
Pick 10
Pick 18
Pick 20
Pick 23
pick 24

2025
Picks 1-4
Picks 1-4

1 of the top 5 is academy at this point. Late 1st & 2nd round is where it will be ****ed.

 

[captain cotch 9]

I dont see the hate of "compromised drafts"
Basically those players linked to academy's and FS's arnt in a draft and clubs just pay using draft picks to land them.

 

[Frank Grimes]

Source: Herald Sun

Much intrigue remains over whether Richmond and North Melbourne will do a deal which could land the Tigers the first two picks in this year’s national draft.

It is believed that the Kangaroos are open to trading pick two and a future first-round selection to Richmond, in exchange for picks six and 11 in this year’s draft.

Such a deal would still leave the Tigers with seven early selections this year — at picks 1, 2, 10, 19, 20, 23 and 24 — along with two first-round picks next year.

We will effectively be making it gamble next year. North finishes 16-18 the deal will favour us. Finish 12-15 the deal would be in the fair range. Finish 11 or above it favours North.

Probably a gamble worth taking if we are keen on the FOS and Lalor combo.

 

[4tune8]

Source: Herald Sun

Much intrigue remains over whether Richmond and North Melbourne will do a deal which could land the Tigers the first two picks in this year’s national draft.

It is believed that the Kangaroos are open to trading pick two and a future first-round selection to Richmond, in exchange for picks six and 11 in this year’s draft.

Such a deal would still leave the Tigers with seven early selections this year — at picks 1, 2, 10, 19, 20, 23 and 24 — along with two first-round picks next year.

Been saying this for a while. North are more desperate to trade out pick 2 than what we are in trading it in.

Blairs first and only offer would be 6 & 23, if North want to upgrade 23 > 11 then they will have to pay and the cost will be their F1.

The Dees are the only other team that has a pick (and maybe the willingness to trade) in the range that North want. For that to happen (I read this on the MB somewhere) then the Dees could trade 9 to GWS for 15 & 16, then bundle 5 & 15 for 2, leaving them taking 2 & 16 to the draft.

I doubt that the Dees trade will happen mainly because there's no real benefit for GWS in a deep draft and Melbourne could already be inside where their targeted players are. but you never know, it's a possibility.

 

[Bojangles17]

How compromised will next years draft be?

North's future 1st is going to be top 4, we won't leave the bottom 4 ourselves

That's two drafts; you gotta do it

2024
Pick 1
Pick 2
Pick 10
Pick 18
Pick 20
Pick 23
pick 24

2025
Picks 1-4
Picks 1-4

Norf maybe due to win 6-7 games or more . I wouldn’t be banking on them to be bottom 2

 

[tigs2010]

Norf maybe due to win 6-7 games or more . I wouldn’t be banking on them to be bottom 2

That would have got them Pick 3 this year

 

[Bojangles17]

I dont see the hate of "compromised drafts"
Basically those players linked to academy's and FS's arnt in a draft and clubs just pay using draft picks to land them.

That’s the thinking man’s approach

 

[Bojangles17]

That would have got them Pick 3 this year

There you go then ,

 

[THE THIN MAN]

If I recall correctly, Deledio asked to be transferred to Geelong as he disagreed with the direction of the club.

Geelong was not prepared to offer anything worthwhile; Richmond then traded him to GWS.

 

[Frank Grimes]

I dont see the hate of "compromised drafts"
Basically those players linked to academy's and FS's arnt in a draft and clubs just pay using draft picks to land them.

I haven't got a problem with the the F/S and acadamy as a concept, but the issue is paying a fair price for them (Even though I acknowledge we exploited this with Brisbane this year).

It's things like Collingwood getting a pick 2 (Daicos) just by using 4-5 picks in the 40's and similar with Brisbane and Ashcroft this year that I think most people have an issue with.

The draft point value will be changing next year and reducing the discount from 20% to 10%. We will see what impact this will have, but I would have liked to see further restrictions such as the removal of the discount completely and a max of 3 picks can be used to match the bid.

 

[captain cotch 9]

We will effectively be making as gamble next year. North finishes 16-18 the deal will favour us. Finish 12-15 the deal would be in the fair range. Finish 11 or above it favours North.

Probably a gamble worth taking if we are keen on the FOS and Lalor combo.

Norf will still be bottom 4 IMO.
Think of it as pick 6 for 2
11 for pick 1-4 in 25'

that is very tempting IMO.

 

[OneEyedRichmond]

I dont see the hate of "compromised drafts"
Basically those players linked to academy's and FS's arnt in a draft and clubs just pay using draft picks to land them.

It astounds me how campaigners don’t understand this

 

[Calcium Man]

1 of the top 5 is academy at this point. Late 1st & 2nd round is where it will be ****ed.

Addinsall surely looking top 10 too but I think the pointy end still looks good.

Sharp, Rodriguez, Greeves, Onley and Duursma

Plus Emmett, Duff-Tyler and Heatherton as talls.

I dont see the hate of "compromised drafts"
Basically those players linked to academy's and FS's arnt in a draft and clubs just pay using draft picks to land them.

Agree. The only problem is making them pay a fair price.

They probably should also be limited to matching 2 players in 1st round or something. Can’t have GC getting 4 first round talents from academy every other year.

 

[4tune8]

We will effectively be making as gamble next year. North finishes 16-18 the deal will favour us. Finish 12-15 the deal would be in the fair range. Finish 11 or above it favours North.

Probably a gamble worth taking if we are keen on the FOS and Lalor combo.

Nah.

We make out like absolute bandits in that deal, whichever way you look at it.

What North are effectively doing is offering pick F1 to upgrade 23 to 11, it's not as simple as just comparing pick 11 in isolation.

Using the DVI to value the trade (I know it only works for bid matching and this trade is about securing targeted players) then the difference between 11 & 23 is the equivalent of pick 36. Shows that an F2 is the fair price to pay, but this isn't about paying a 'fair' price, it's about extracting maximum value from a club that wants our picks.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Norf are stacked in the midfield but it's all the same type of player. Larkey can play. That's it really.
They've completely botched their list strategy given all those early picks and have brought in a couple of cast offs this year to try to compensate.
They will be bottom 4.

 

[4tune8]

Norf will still be bottom 4 IMO.
Think of it as pick 6 for 2
11 for pick 1-4 in 25'

that is very tempting IMO.

And that's ignoring the price paid to upgrade 6 > 2, what pick would you pay for that upgrade? Then add it to the plus side of our ledger and you'll get a realistic picture of the reaming.

 

[SplintWhisky]

How compromised will next years draft be?

North's future 1st is going to be top 4, we won't leave the bottom 4 ourselves

That's two drafts; you gotta do it

2024
Pick 1
Pick 2
Pick 10
Pick 18
Pick 20
Pick 23
pick 24

2025
Picks 1-4
Picks 1-4

I am going to come out and say that compromised drafts where the academy players are in the range of 6 - 20 are the ideal drafts for us to rebuild under.

With the pick values getting lower and lower for the bidding system, we could turn trash to gold with our early second, third (don't have one for 2025, and 4th rounders because people are desperate.

 

[UpTheGutz]

Norf will still be bottom 4 IMO.
Think of it as pick 6 for 2
11 for pick 1-4 in 25'

that is very tempting IMO.

They were desperately trying to flog off their F1 during trade period. Next year draft meh, this year ace & even, they expect to pop (12th?), many academy kids next year (yes I know unavailable to us anyway) & who they want at 2 is probably gonna be there at 6.
Can see how north could get there. Could also see that we decline.
We might adore pick 6 guy almost as much as we like No.2 kid

 

[Karp3_dm]

 

[OneEyedRichmond]

Pommy pandering to Kanga TV. Reckon's our need for pick 2 is greater than North's need to split the pick and we have to pay 6 and 10. A fair trade for both clubs.



Also suggested 6 & 10 & F1 for 2 & North F1

That clown needs to stick to the round ball

 

[blaisee]

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Has to be something we consider

6 and 11 for 2 and F1

Fos and Lalor is very exciting and we may end up with Pick 1 and Pick 2 next year for 2 elite talls

 

[fargothegreat]

North were almost as bad as us this year. Surely their first is still a 90% chance of being a top 10 pick next year?

 

[GoTigers2015]

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StKilda and Melbourne must have knocked back their F1 for picks 7, 8 or 9. Keeping pick 2 and trading F1 for 7, 8 or 9 is much better for North.

 

[Joey longshadow]

go for the clunge, gonna be off the hook

Clunge...an underused phrase.. thankyou inbetweeners