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Captain-like behaviour.
Interested in the thoughts of CNDee![]()
"Clarry wants to be a Dee and Trac doesnt so I like Clarry more"..... Nuffs gonna nuff.There actually a thing on nuffyland where it's Oliver vs Trac and they've gone with tubby?
Shifting the blame to the player and not the club is very strange take, the club is supposed to have people employed to protect the player from themselves. And the second option is absolutely the one id choose.I haven't read all the comments here, but my gut is telling me that Trac is a mummy's boy who has fallen in line with the family sentiment. That being the case, he's going to be very hard to turn around now because families like this don't change their minds. They will always blame the club for him going back out on the field, they will never accept that Trac carries some responsible for it. Might as well trade him to the highest bidder or be prepared to sack Goody, the medical staff and anyone else who's been getting up the Petracca family's nose.
Probably more likely Trac goes to Geelong and Oliver gets promoted to Captain
To be clear, I think the chances of trading Trac are so close to zero that even my scientific calculator from year 12 would just give up and say 0.Righto mate chill out clubs not gonna trade Gawn May Oliver Trac lol we wouldn't even be able to pay a quarter of the salary cap.
Tracs not going to go unless he fully freaks out in the media and even still that deal takes all trade period to get done.
I haven't read all the comments here, but my gut is telling me that Trac is a mummy's boy who has fallen in line with the family sentiment. That being the case, he's going to be very hard to turn around now because families like this don't change their minds. They will always blame the club for him going back out on the field, they will never accept that Trac carries some responsible for it. Might as well trade him to the highest bidder or be prepared to sack Goody, the medical staff and anyone else who's been getting up the Petracca family's nose to keep him. I'm ok with the latter.
Did you read what I wrote? I said he carries some responsibility. Not all of it, or most of it, but some of it. I don't buy into the employer carries all responsibility narrative. If he was using his bravado to misrepresent the level of his discomfort, that can make a diagnosis very difficult. So I'm happy to give him a bit of responsibility. I'm also happy to give a large share of responsibility to the medical staff too. They f**ked it up together as far as I'm concerned. At least there was some teamwork there...Shifting the blame to the player and not the club is very strange take, the club is supposed to have people employed to protect the player from themselves. And the second option is absolutely the one id choose.
Within about 30 seconds of him going out there it was obvious he wasn't right. If he had been pulled immediately that would be one thing but he spent 20 minutes on the ground.Did you read what I wrote? I said he carries some responsibility. Not all of it, or most of it, but some of it. I don't buy into the employer carries all responsibility narrative. If he was using his bravado to misrepresent the level of his discomfort, that can make a diagnosis very difficult. So I'm happy to give him a bit of responsibility. I'm also happy to give a large share of responsibility to the medical staff too. They f**ked it up together as far as I'm concerned. At least there was some teamwork there...
Lol I don't think if Trac had been asked to stay on the bench and brushed the medical staff off he'd be crying about it later. I'm guessing he was in pain, asked if he should battle through it and the medical staff/coaching staff didn't really try and stop him.Within about 30 seconds of him going out there it was obvious he wasn't right. If he had been pulled immediately that would be one thing but he spent 20 minutes on the ground.
So why didn't Trac signal that he wasn't ok? It doesn't change anything for me. Like I said, they can all have a share in the responsibility.Within about 30 seconds of him going out there it was obvious he wasn't right. If he had been pulled immediately that would be one thing but he spent 20 minutes on the ground.
Lol what?So why didn't Trac signal that he wasn't ok? It doesn't change anything for me. Like I said, they can all have a share in the responsibility.
Wanted to do his bit for the team and assumed the pain was just his ribs, got told by the doctors that was the case. Players try to push through injury all the time but when something is obviously wrong it's on the club to protect them. The clubs have power over the player in these regards, which is why they cop the blame when they stuff it up.So why didn't Trac signal that he wasn't ok? It doesn't change anything for me. Like I said, they can all have a share in the responsibility.
Medical diagnosis relies on the patient giving accurate information. If they couldn't detect a problem using a stethoscope and palpating the area, and Trac was claiming he was ok to go back on, there's nothing to go on. If Trac was feeling worse than he let on, that's on him. How would any of us know? I see no reason to make Trac blameless. Given there's no smoking gun, they can all share in the f**k up.Lol what?
If he's unsure what damage he has and the medical staff tell you it's fine to go, not many professional AFL players are just gonna go nah I don't wanna play thanks.
You're still missing the point. Trac doesn't know he's broken his ribs an ruptured his spleen or else why even have doctors he can just diagnose himself.Medical diagnosis relies on the patient giving accurate information. If they couldn't detect a problem using a stethoscope and palpating the area, and Trac was claiming he was ok to go back on, there's nothing to go on. If Trac was feeling worse than he let on, that's on him. How would any of us know? I see no reason to make Trac blameless. Given there's no smoking gun, they can all share in the f**k up.
Whatever mate, I've said my piece.You're still missing the point. Trac doesn't know he's broken his ribs an ruptured his spleen or else why even have doctors he can just diagnose himself.
It's even stranger you think Trac would be pissed off if he was in the wrong.
Gargantuan effort for Oliver to play through that though.Down on the canvas for 5 minutes after the quarter time siren went. Hmmmmm, could something possibly be wrong and we send him to the hospital to have a look or is it more likely hes just being a drama queen mummies boy like Clayton Oliver when he gets a slapped on the man boobs? Ill go with the later.
That guy goes down faster than a $10 hooker. Always has, starts shit with players then cries on the ground when he cops a bump or slap back. Another reason to hate him.Gargantuan effort for Oliver to play through that though.
That guy goes down faster than a $10 hooker. Always has, starts shit with players then cries on the ground when he cops a bump or slap back. Another reason to hate him.