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Position 2024 Fantasy Midfielders
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Barrybran
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Fremantle, Adelaide and Sydney are of most interest to me in this regard. Young is going to score 100 while Brayshaw and Serong both go 110, Fyfe is going to swing into the middle for 85 and Johnson should pick up 70-75. Let's not forget about Sharp and Chapman who are both going 80 each on a wing.
The maths does not compute.
That said, Port may be the team that bucks the trend. As one of the podcasts mentioned recently, Port are the lowest scoring fantasy team and could easily jump 50-100 points without adversely impacting anyone's market share. Conversely, if St Kilda becomes more efficient, what happens to Sinclair, NWM, etc.?
- Mar 20, 2007
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Could be useful to identify those with the biggest gap to their next highest scoring midfield teammate
Adelaide: Dawson +4 (Laird)
Brisbane: Dunkley +7 (Neale)
Carlton: Docherty +8 (Cerra)
Collingwood: N.Daicos +14 (J.Daicos)
Essendon: Merrett +6 (Parish)
Fremantle: Brayshaw +2 (Serong)
Geelong: Guthrie +5 (Blicavs)
Gold Coast: Anderson +5 (Miller)
GWS: Green +9 (Coniglio)
Hawthorn: Day +2 (Newcombe)
Melbourne: Oliver +8 (Petracca)
North Melbourne: LDU +11 (Scott)
Port Adelaide: Rozee +6 (Butters)
Richmond: Taranto +25 (Bolton)
St Kilda: Crouch +5 (Steele)
Sydney: Gulden +20 (Warner)
West Coast: Kelly +9 (Sheed)
Western Bulldogs: Bontempelli +12 (Treloar)
Nic Martin looking more and more likely to be the Bombers cheapie merchant. Cal is a trusted source so what he reports is likely true.
Very very tempting to pick him…. Him and Amon could be perfect two to slide to defence R7. Might even try to play around with money and get him to an M6 spot
Very very tempting to pick him…. Him and Amon could be perfect two to slide to defence R7. Might even try to play around with money and get him to an M6 spot
If he priced at 70 or a FWD, I'd be all over it!!
Essendon may change their game style but we have never seen a player in this position really go 95+ for them.
As he's a mid, there a better options IMHO.
And even after he gets DEF status, is he going to be a top6/8 defender?
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Please noooo he’s one of my PODs
I agree the maths for that freo midfield does not compute and I agree that people are expecting way too many points to be shared around there. For starters, I wouldn't have Fyfe, Sharp or Chappy going near the numbers you've listed for them there.
As Johnson's biggest fan (snuff may dispute this), this prompted me to take a closer look at his numbers.
I just had a look at the guys average, I removed games where he started sub and those where he was subbed out (was often subbed out on 40 odd points from 50% TOG). I did keep one sub affected score in there, where he got subbed out on 99 from 71% TOG. Got to boost that average!
He had 11 games not sub affected, went at an average of 75. If you look at just his last 8 non-sub affected games (because I love to cherry pick), he went at 84.
He played a shit role all those games. A few he had more CBAs than others but I don't think there was any correlation between CBAs and his scores. There did, however, seem to be a strong correlation between his scores and the team's performance. In games where we got spanked at the contest, his scores were lower.
I'm pretty keen to back him in, regardless of the fact that there just shouldn't be that many points to go around in the freo midfield. Despite likely having a shit role, I just feel he can score, the numbers show that being the sub has tanked his average by 20 odd points, there's built in value without any improvement from him.
The converse of that is that his performance last year is a statistical outlier and without the role he regresses to a putrid 65 average. Also likely.
All that being said, I'm presently on Wardlaw for the role. Was just trying to illustrate that Johnson can score in that shitty role.
Barrybran
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I like these two as well. As much value as there is in the midfield, Guthrie is likely #1 at Geelong, Wardlaw should be #2 (Simpkin is arguably #2 but I don't think it will work that way - the main question for me is fantasy relevance) and everyone else - Crouch, Wines, etc. - is a third or fourth banana.
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If he’s taking kick ins I can see him being top 6 easily. Had an insane tog % last year so should just about get them all. That being said.. he is one of my PODs as well so if everyone could not pick him that’d be fantastic
He and Amon are interesting ones.
The issue is they are taking the place (for the 1st 6 rounds) of a higher scoring more upside mid.
At his price I much prefer Guthrie who has a better fixture too.
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Agreed, If I was to pick Freo players in terms of value (I only play draft), it would be:
1) Sharp (to average 60-70)
2) Johnson (75-85)
3) Young (95-100)
I've said I like Jackson as a premium because I think he actually has the most "safety" IMO compared to other forwards with decent scope to improve. The added bonus of having ruck status is nice but I understand just basically ignoring forwards and putting your money elsewhere.
Brayshaw is the safest option to go 110-115 with a proper preseason this year but I wouldnt be going Fyfe (who is better supercoach anyway) because I think he'll be more a support player and subbed every game or Serong who I think maxed his scoring last year and I think there is greater chance he decreases in scores rather than increases.
Worth noting that there are points to be had on Freo mids because Henry is gone, Aish appears to have moved to the backline and JOM to the forwardline. It's a nice combination of positional changes and natural growth that provides the value. I'm not sure if other teams have those same level of changes / growth but I'm obviously not as knowledgeable on other teams
tigs2010
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WaynesWorld19
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Looks like we’ve looked at the wrong Dow the whole time, he’d be a decent cash cow, Tigs have the late bye and you could turf him at his bye
WaynesWorld19
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+ we get a good look at Dow's role in R0
tigs2010
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Dow will be 4th mid. Taranto, Hopper, Dusty, Dow
Should hopefully get an ok chunk of CBAs too
tigs2010
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Yeah sounds like Bolton will be given a Cyril role so pretty much Pure forward now. Graham maybe the only other might go through there.
Sonsie might be the threat to Dows JS once his suspension ends.
JDWCE
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Prestia dead again?
tigs2010
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Forgot he existed
It would be him over Graham in mid rotation. Dow doesn't seem so safe now
JDWCE
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I'd be all over Short if it weren't for his flipping byeForgot he existed
It would be him over Graham in mid rotation. Dow doesn't seem so safe now
tigs2010
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Just watched match sim highlights Prestia wasn't there. Defence will be very young with Gibcus, Young, Trezise and Brown back there so Rioli and Short will have to take a huge load of the rebounding.
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Did Kane get a run through there - surely in a sim of two sides he would have had opportunities...
