List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

[Jivlain]

 

[mpal6]

One would think he has given the Dogs an indication he is nominating them, otherwise their trade with Gold Coast doesn’t make sense.

Yep you'd think so but Jordan's quite clear about not making a decision yet. Bit to play out there still.

In other news GC getting 10 and 17 opens up options for us I think. If Adelaide does a 10 for 19,22,25 (or something along those lines), we could aim for 17 or 19. Gives us better access to Archer Reid or Logan Morris possibly.

 

[KissKiss]

I think there's no doubt on Croft getting picked up by them but I reckon the Dogs will struggle to keep them all. Unless they can convince Naughton to go back again, there is no way they can get JUH, Croft, Darcy, English and Naughton all in the same team

 

[Dalions]

I think there's no doubt on Croft getting picked up by them but I reckon the Dogs will struggle to keep them all. Unless they can convince Naughton to go back again, there is no way they can get JUH, Croft, Darcy, English and Naughton all in the same team

Lot of talk that English will be gone next year.

 

[mpal6]

North Melbourne - 15
GWS - 16
Gold Coast - 18

We could get a future first swap for any of these possibly.

GWS might be a good option, if they can't bundle picks and move up - they'll usually love hoarding future first picks.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

North Melbourne - 15
GWS - 16
Gold Coast - 18

We could get a future first swap for any of these possibly.

GWS might be a good option, if they can't bundle picks and move up - they'll usually love hoarding future first picks.

Won't we want to use our future first to trade down for points next year for Ashcroft the younger?

 

[irel]

North Melbourne - 15
GWS - 16
Gold Coast - 18

We could get a future first swap for any of these possibly.

GWS might be a good option, if they can't bundle picks and move up - they'll usually love hoarding future first picks.

Unlikely to trade in to this years draft. We'll be traying to trade out into next year's draft.

 

[briztoon]

Unlikely to trade in to this years draft. We'll be traying to trade out into next year's draft.

I’m struggling to see any club that might be interested in our current picks 50, 60 & 66.

There might be teams interested in our current pick 29, but I have no idea who. Maybe Port after they have traded out their current picks for BZT, Ratogalea, etc.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

ModernArtillery has a profile of Jack Delean up. He's a small forward who was considered a first rounder earlier in the season but may fall to our first pick now. Charlie and Linc are almost 30, we'll need players ready to take over from them when they want to hang up the boots, and Lohmann is the only decent small forward prospect on our list at the moment.

Jack Delean

There are few better players in this year's AFL Draft crop to watch than spring-heeled South Adelaide goalsneak, Jack Delean.

central.rookieme.com

MA also wrote the following description of Delean a few months ago:

His aerial work is exceptional for a player his size and he's strong on the lead, but it's his finishing in front of goal that really stands out to me. His ability to convert goals with a high degree of difficulty is as good as anyone in this draft not named Nick Watson. Yes, he's a relatively low possession player, but I reckon he's got match-winner written all over him. If I needed a small forward, I wouldn't hesitate to use a pick in the second half of the first round on him.

 

[briztoon]

ModernArtillery has a profile of Jack Delean up. He's a small forward who was considered a first rounder earlier in the season but may fall to our first pick now. Charlie and Linc are almost 30, we'll need players ready to take over from them when they want to hang up the boots, and Lohmann is the only decent small forward prospect on our list at the moment.

Jack Delean

There are few better players in this year's AFL Draft crop to watch than spring-heeled South Adelaide goalsneak, Jack Delean.

central.rookieme.com

MA also wrote the following description of Delean a few months ago:

Lot of good small forwards and half forwards in this draft.

Just not sure on how many picks we’ll want to take to the draft.

Might look to move an un-contracted player to the rookie list, if we are to take 3 picks to the draft.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Might look to move an un-contracted player to the rookie list, if we are to take 3 picks to the draft.

You'd think Blake Coleman is the obvious candidate.

 

[Grasshopper17]

That. Would. Be. Right.

 

[McIvor]

That. Would. Be. Right.

Yep ensure the Suns are looked after and then change things to make it harder for us to get our boys. Sounds about right with the VFL picking and choosing it’s timing. Surely decisions like this can only be implemented at least 2-3 years after they’re announced so clubs can plan accordingly. But with the bias corruption of the VFL it’s hardly surprising.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Yep ensure the Suns are looked after and then change things to make it harder for us to get our boys. Sounds about right with the VFL picking and choosing it’s timing. Surely decisions like this can only be implemented at least 2-3 years after they’re announced so clubs can plan accordingly. But with the bias corruption of the VFL it’s hardly surprising.

To be fair any changes to father-son rules will also affect Carlton with regards to the Camporeale twins.

The academy rules on the other hand...

 

[briztoon]

To be fair any changes to father-son rules will also affect Carlton with regards to the Camporeale twins.

The academy rules on the other hand...

Not just Carlton next year.

Adelaide has a gun KPF father son, Tyler Welsh.

Port has two father sons, a Burgoyne (also fs to Hawks) and Montgomery.

Hawks have a Crawford father son as well.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

That. Would. Be. Right.

Ah, the AFL. As usual, they'll poorly implement an equalisation measure, and only when the shit hits the fan and a club gains massively at the expense of everyone else will they take any action. Just like the NGA rules changing after Jamarra Ugle-Hagan got drafted.

 

[rye]

lets be realistic, the point discount to match both father sons and academy selections is stupid. wouldn't be surprised if they just revise how much later picks are worth in terms of points and remove matched bid discounting

 

[LionCub29]

Unfortunately, I have to watch the Dockers live almost every second week and I believe that Andrew Brayshaw

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Andrew Brayshaw

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.3

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

2.1

4star

D

18.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.1

4star

D

12.6

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

is one of the most wildly overrated players in the league. If my life depended on delivery of the ball inside F50 (whether pressured or not), I’d prefer Sam Frost

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Sam Frost

Age

31

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

191.6

3star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

191.6

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

4star

of the Hawks over Brayshaw. He talks well, comes from a nice family and is well-liked, I’d take Cam Rayner over Brayshaw every single day.

 

[mpal6]

That. Would. Be. Right.

Andrew Dillon wanting to make his mark and bring "changes" to the system of course.

 

[rye]

with gunston and fullarton out do we look at ashton moir with our first pick?

had a lot of hype coming into his draft year but seems to have put together a poor season. talent should still be there. not quite kpp size but seems like a fritsch / gunston type from what ive seen

 

[RoyBoy17]

I just hope we don’t waste picks on players that can’t run and have poor game sense (ie ball watchers). I still think we lack for elite defensive pressure and more importantly elite tacklers. Broken tackles kill us.

And whilst we get a lot of forward half turnovers it’s more based on good structure behind the ball when the game is slow and stop start. We are one paced through the mids.
As soon as there is pace in the game we struggle. Opposition mid groups tend to be able to get up and down the ground a bit better. I think we still try to bash teams in submission. Which works well because we are good at clearance and contest but would like to add that extra bit of running power and defensive pressure in our game.

 

[briztoon]

I just hope we don’t waste picks on players that can’t run and have poor game sense (ie ball watchers). I still think we lack for elite defensive pressure and more importantly elite tacklers. Broken tackles kill us.

And whilst we get a lot of forward half turnovers it’s more based on good structure behind the ball when the game is slow and stop start. We are one paced through the mids.
As soon as there is pace in the game we struggle. Opposition mid groups tend to be able to get up and down the ground a bit better. I think we still try to bash teams in submission. Which works well because we are good at clearance and contest but would like to add that extra bit of running power and defensive pressure in our game.

I’ll be somewhat surprised if we look to bolster the midfield via the draft considering where our picks currently sit, and the genuine shallowness of the midfield crop in this year’s draft.

Outside the top 15 in this draft, it is genuinely hard to find afl quality mids with pace.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

I’d be hoping that any changes are relating to FA compensation. Band 1 should be no earlier than start of second round.

 

[RoyBoy17]

I’ll be somewhat surprised if we look to bolster the midfield via the draft considering where our picks currently sit, and the genuine shallowness of the midfield crop in this year’s draft.

Outside the top 15 in this draft, it is genuinely hard to find afl quality mids with pace.

Yeh probably not the draft for mids. We have two good ones for next year anyway. I still think look for mature age recruits to fit a specific need with our current picks. Unless we can land Logan Morris with our first. Like the look of him

 

[SizeMatters]

Yeah think we will pick up a third tall mature aged recruit with one of the picks. Corbett from Suns would have been good stop gap for a trade.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Yeah think we will pick up a third tall mature aged recruit with one of the picks. Corbett from Suns would have been good stop gap for a trade.

Agree, although this is the best chance we can pick up Brodie McLaughin from Gold Coast in the DFA market.