List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

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I’m waiting for the photos of Fages and Andrew Crowell touring Melbourne and WA to meet the new recruits- I wonder if they are doing that this year?
Maybe Fages is still on holidays OS.
 
Flossie32 said:
I’m waiting for the photos of Fages and Andrew Crowell touring Melbourne and WA to meet the new recruits- I wonder if they are doing that this year?
Maybe Fages is still on holidays OS.
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he is back, was at marvel last night
 

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Flossie32 said:
I’m waiting for the photos of Fages and Andrew Crowell touring Melbourne and WA to meet the new recruits- I wonder if they are doing that this year?
Maybe Fages is still on holidays OS.
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Second and third page of this one will have a bit of what you are chasing.

 
I can't believe none of the draftees cried when we selected them what the hell is going on?
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If you ever needed an example of how pathetic our clubs media department the draft coverage this year takes the cake. Someone worse than the fixture announcement
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Do you want me to get the manager, Karen?
 
twhowler said:
Getting 2 third tall forwards makes sense to me - we have zero at the moment really. Rayner can obviously play tall but we like him doing some mid minutes. We have nobody who is a true forward in the 190-195cm size.

McStay was a tallish version of it. Gunston was obviously meant to be it. Toby Wooler was one we tried. McFadyen loomed as an option.

It means we have Daniher at 201cm, Hipwood at 203cm. And if we want a third tall atm it would be either Fort 204cm or Ryan 200cm.
It really ties our hands - go shorter and have Daniher as back-up ruck. Go much taller with an extra ruckman. There is no middle ground. It also means if you have either a forward or ruckman go down you are not horribly exposed. From our GF team if Daniher or Oscar went down we were in a lot of trouble.

There are some pretty hand ones around the league. Mihocek. Charlie Curnow and Jack Riewoldt are 194cm and 195cm. Taylor Walker 194cm. Maybe i am stretching with Jeremy Cameron at 196cm. You get a genuine target but plenty of mobility and speed.

So going from 0 to 2 third key forwards -
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I’m going to sound like a broken record on this, but the players you mentioned have one of two things, either genuine athleticism to jump on heads, are the speed to create separation. With a player like Curnow he has both.

Neither of our first two picks have shown much of either at junior level. I’m not poopooing the kids, more interested in keeping expectations realistic.

I genuinely hope both kids prove me wrong about, and show a heap in their first season.
 
briztoon said:
I’m going to sound like a broken record on this, but the players you mentioned have one of two things, either genuine athleticism to jump on heads, are the speed to create separation. With a player like Curnow he has both.

Neither of our first two picks have shown much of either at junior level. I’m not poopooing the kids, more interested in keeping expectations realistic.

I genuinely hope both kids prove me wrong about, and show a heap in their first season.
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We are talking about two 18 year old kids who have been Lions for 24 hours. They won’t win games off their own boot next year. They will learn their craft and what role to play over the next year or two in the 2s. We don’t need them to have blinding speed for separation, or to stand on opponents heads. That’s the stuff that looks good on their highlights reel. I’d prefer 2 or 3 ordinary goals from a forward, rather than 1 spectacular one.

What we want from them is to play their role consistently? Give the kids some time?
 
List of all clubs top 20 draft picks

The top 20 draft picks currently on the lists of all 18 clubs

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GWS the most with 19 followed by Bombers with 18.
Grand finalist Pies with 9 Lions with 13

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Total top-20 picks: 13

Cam Rayner (Pick 1, 2017)
Will Ashcroft (Pick 2, 2022)
Hugh McCluggage (Pick 3, 2016)
Callum Ah Chee (Pick 8, 2015)
Joe Daniher (Pick 10, 2012)
Jaspa Fletcher (Pick 12, 2022)
Eric Hipwood (Pick 14, 2015)
Zac Bailey (Pick 15, 2017)
Darcy Wilmot (Pick 16, 2021)
Tom Doedee (Pick 17, 2015)
Jarrod Berry (Pick 17, 2016)
Brandon Starcevich (Pick 18, 2017)
Kai Lohmann (Pick 20, 2021)

The Lions have 13 top-20 picks, three of which were initially selected by other clubs - Callum Ah Chee (Gold Coast), Joe Daniher (Essendon) and Tom Doedee (Adelaide). Only four of their picks inside 20 have come in the last six drafts.
 
rye said:


chairman going into bat for us with some very well reasoned tweets
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He's a ripper...we are so lucky to have people like Andrew looking after our club...wish more would appreciate what we have now rather than reflect back after their time is done....It's so typical of footy clubs all levels to do just that.
 
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Mighty Lions said:
He's a ripper...we are so lucky to have people like Andrew looking after our club...wish more would appreciate what we have now rather than reflect back after their time is done....It's so typical of footy clubs all levels to do just that.
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We are indeed incredibly fortunate - Wellington, Lethal and the rest of the Board, Swann, Fages, Daly, Medical and fitness staff, Conole and list management team, not to mention players who are not only good at what they do but from the outside seem really good people as well.
 

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T Rick said:
We are indeed incredibly fortunate - Wellington, Lethal and the rest of the Board, Swann, Fages, Daly, Medical and fitness staff, Conole and list management team, not to mention players who are not only good at what they do but from the outside seem really good people as well.
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The people you just reeled off wont be here forever yet a lot on here take it for granted we have this quality coming through like water out of a tap.
 
jfn said:
We are talking about two 18 year old kids who have been Lions for 24 hours. They won’t win games off their own boot next year. They will learn their craft and what role to play over the next year or two in the 2s. We don’t need them to have blinding speed for separation, or to stand on opponents heads. That’s the stuff that looks good on their highlights reel. I’d prefer 2 or 3 ordinary goals from a forward, rather than 1 spectacular one.

What we want from them is to play their role consistently? Give the kids some time?
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I agree with all that.

But none of that addresses the point I was making, in regards to the opposition players mentioned and bolded in the post I quoted, and how they play compared to the two kids we drafted play.
 
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The people you just reeled off won't be here forever yet a lot on here take it for granted we have this quality coming through like water out of a tap.
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Why do you believe people here take our clubs management for granted?

Because we don't talk about them very often.

I believe Swann, Nobble and Fagan have been heaped with praise on here. Especially before Noble moved on.

So to the recruiting and list management team.

But as general fans, the vast majority of us will never have the opportunity to interact with these people, or have any influence over the appointment of such people to the club.

They're largely figures behind the scenes for the majority of us, apart from Fagan, and occasionally Swann, as we focus on the performances of the team on the field, the players and the coach.

There's been quite recent discussions of the "dark days" post 3 peat, and quite a bit of thankfulness expressed in that discussion that we are better run these days.
 
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I note that both Logan Morris and Luke Lloyd on the Lion's web-page are described as “hybrid forwards.” It just shows how bad and out of date our media department is. They are effing "Unicorns" you dipsticks. Get with the times.
 
McIvor said:
Interesting that on two articles I read this morning each said we’d have taken Archie Read had the Eagles not taken him; at least he gets to play with his relative Harley.
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Reads better from a media perspective to say that definitively we "missed out", but it might not have been that clear cut.
 
McIvor said:
Interesting that on two articles I read this morning each said we’d have taken Archie Read had the Eagles not taken him; at least he gets to play with his relative Harley.
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They're not true - it's just media supposition. ;)
 
dlanod said:
They're not true - it's just media supposition. ;)
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Can’t be a coincidence that we went with 3rd tall types with all of our first 3 picks.
It was obviously a hole on our list we wanted to fill.
 
Dalions said:
Can’t be a coincidence that we went with 3rd tall types with all of our first 3 picks.
It was obviously a hole on our list we wanted to fill.
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If you look at last year and next year, we've got four early-ish prospects bound to us and all are mids. Might as well stack lottery tickets this year when we've got some free picks to take.
 

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