List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

[Jivlain]

 

[GenericUsername202]

Why are people talking about Starcevich like him leaving is a foregone conclusion? Have I missed something?

With a squad as talented as ours, I think its impossible to keep everyone. And i'm not talking about fringe players, but some of our genuine superstar players as well. We can't give everyone a top contract, and it wouldn't surprise me if Western Australian clubs came in and offered him more than we could possibly give him. I hope we don't lose him though, as I rate him as one of our most important players. Was an unsung hero in the GF

 

[BangyBangy]

Why are people talking about Starcevich like him leaving is a foregone conclusion? Have I missed something?

Hasn't re-signed must be gone.... Other clubs will come at him with more money than we can offer. Fifth in the coaches votes in a grand final, but not worth a first round pick, only a second rounder....

 

[M Malice]

With a squad as talented as ours, I think its impossible to keep everyone. And i'm not talking about fringe players, but some of our genuine superstar players as well. We can't give everyone a top contract, and it wouldn't surprise me if Western Australian clubs came in and offered him more than we could possibly give him. I hope we don't lose him though, as I rate him as one of our most important players. Was an unsung hero in the GF

Did we lose many "superstar" players during our 2001-04 era?

Without delving into it would Des Headland be the only one we lost we would of preferred to keep?

Some players would be willing to stay on a bit less $$$$ in order to be in a side slap bang in the Premiership window.

 

[GenericUsername202]

Did we lose many "superstar" players during our 2001-04 era?

Without delving into it would Des Headland be the only one we lost we would of preferred to keep?

Some players would be willing to stay on a bit less $$$$ in order to be in a side slap bang in the Premiership window.

I think only Des Headland considered himself a superstar when he left

 

[briztoon]

Hasn't re-signed must be gone.... Other clubs will come at him with more money than we can offer. Fifth in the coaches votes in a grand final, but not worth a first round pick, only a second rounder....

If the bolded is meant to be a remark aimed at what I posted earlier, you’ve either not understood the discussion or deliberately misinterpreting what I posted.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Who was our last selection in the preseason draft?

 

[Grasshopper17]

Who was our last selection in the preseason draft?

Sam Day.

 

[BangyBangy]

If the bolded is meant to be a remark aimed at what I posted earlier, you’ve either not understood the discussion or deliberately misinterpreting what I posted.

Why can't it be both?

 

[Nathan Barley]

Sam Day.

Who was……

Not who is

 

[Dalions]

More clips:
From final regular season fixture 2024 (against soon to be QAFL Premiers Morningside

Ty Gallop - 8 Goals (could easily have been 10)



(It pays to watch more than 1 shot at goal before deriding someones kicking action ....... )

Wearing number 3 there too
Just saying!

 

[blueiris]

You would think 16 votes in the Brownlow would do that (Des Headland

Des Headland

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43

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186cm

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91kg

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15.9

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11.6

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4.4

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4.5

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2.6

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1.1

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D

13.6

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11.2

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2.4

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3.6

4star

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1.4

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G

0.8

4star

)

 

[Nathan Barley]

You would think 16 votes in the Brownlow would do that (Des Headland)

Then 26 in his next 114 games

 

[beatnik]

I think they let Allen walk and we match, so they keep a Band One compensation pick and then trade their future first or something like it for Starce.

Another top five pick is more than we can offer in a trade that includes Starcevich.

I don’t see why the two are connected - whether Starce wants to leave is completely separate to whether Allen wants to leave

 

[blueiris]

Then 26 in his next 114 games

Yeah because he left the Lions

 

[Tom14]

Why are people talking about Starcevich like him leaving is a foregone conclusion? Have I missed something?

Reputable sources like "theTradeAtheist" reckon he's GAWN.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Reputable sources like "theTradeAtheist" reckon he's GAWN.

And outed himself as that VFL commentator who came on here after everyone ripped into him?

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

What's Gallop's style? Fast leading hit up or strong under the high ball?

 

[dlanod]

Who was……

Not who is

Rocky or Fixter?

Not sure if there was another after those guys.

 

[dlanod]

Did we lose many "superstar" players during our 2001-04 era?

Without delving into it would Des Headland be the only one we lost we would of preferred to keep?

Some players would be willing to stay on a bit less $$$$ in order to be in a side slap bang in the Premiership window.

Headland definitely. Caracella was another.

We mainly lost guys who would develop into solid to very good players before they were at that point - Bolton and B. Voss comes to mind. (Or those really fringe like Shattock etc).

 

[dlanod]

Prove me wrong please Sam Day and kick at least 20 goals and brake the record of the most goals you have ever kicked in a season

Tom14 just had a seizure.

 

[McIvor]

Headland definitely. Caracella was another.

We mainly lost guys who would develop into solid to very good players before they were at that point - Bolton and B. Voss comes to mind. (Or those really fringe like Shattock etc).

I wouldn’t include Caracella. He was a mercenary type who only came up to play in a good side after already being at one only to up and leave again for Collingwood.

The one I always heard we didn’t want to lose, aside from Dee, was Craig Bolton who went to the Swans; only issue being is that early days he couldn’t get a game during premiership years and never actually played in one but he had a great career down in Sydney.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

We now have two of the top five players in terms of goals per game from this year's talent league on our list.

 

[Clarkythelion]

Headland definitely. Caracella was another.

We mainly lost guys who would develop into solid to very good players before they were at that point - Bolton and B. Voss comes to mind. (Or those really fringe like Shattock etc).

We lost a few that got stuck behind the 'log jam' that saw opportunity else where like Gram that went to Richmond, Hadley was it that went to Carlton and there was a bloke that went to Sydney that had a long run there as well in their backline.

It's what Leigh Matthews warned the board about at the time, "if we go for glory and keep the team together we fall off a cliff for years loosing the development players".

I remember around the time Wayne Bennet was coaching the Broncos and he was ruthless getting rid of his stars before they finished their careers to keep the up and coming players. He sent Wally Lewis, Lazarus, Gilmister, Jackson and others on their way cleaning out his top end with a year or 2 left in their careers. He wrote about it in his book.

The Lions have so much talent now, maybe there is a time to let some go where we have good ones coming through to give us longer at the top. Mind you there could be 3 retirements next year (Zorko, Lester, McCarthy) that will take the lid off for a few. I think our recruiting team have a great long term view now and stick to that.

 

[Not a Psycho]

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We now have two of the top five players in terms of goals per game from this year's talent league on our list.

Add Morris from the year prior with the second highest average (3.0) behind Jed Walter.

 

[beatnik]

we lost Jason Gram too…he went on to win AA selection in a back pocket with St Kilda before experiencing some significant trouble in his personal life and fading out of football

Beau McDonald

Beau Mcdonald

Age

45

Ht

203cm

Wt

102kg

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6.2

2star

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3.4

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2.8

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17.3

5star

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D

5.4

2star

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3.6

2star

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1.8

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5.6

5star

too - I’m sure the club would have loved to keep him if not for salary cap pressure