2024 Ladder Predictions

[Cuzz09]

Freo will be interesting to watch I reckon. 10 wins this year despite the doom talking. Lost some players but I think they are too good to fall any lower.

Are they?? Or are they on the edge of a cliff?

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[Cuzz09]

Hope we do well but if not... a couple of things:

1. Ess days without a finals win to continue.
2. Gold Coast to not make finals... again


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[Hawksboy72]

Brisbane
Collingwood
GWS
Western Bulldogs
Sydney
Adelaide
Melbourne
Port
Carlton
Gold coast
Geelong
Essendon
Saints
Richmond
Freo
North
West Coast

First coach to go - Longmire

brownlow - bont

Premiers -:GWS

Hawthorn off to the EPL??

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[#gosaintas]

Hopefully we are better than most on here are predicting. Makes for very depressing reading to see us in most people’s bottom 4 but I guess time will tell.

We were in everybody's bottom 4 last year and finished 6th.
We're in everybody's bottom 6 this year so most likely finish top 4

 

[Orange crush]

We were in everybody's bottom 4 last year and finished 6th.
We're in everybody's bottom 6 this year so most likely finish top 4

Or bottom 4

 

[Blackhawk42]

They've all debuted. None of them are first or 2nd year players.

Improvement generally comes from youth, of which we should have quite a few ready to take a step up IMO.

With all due respect, if it was that simple I'd be expecting Adelaide, Gold Coast and Hawthorn in particular to easily leapfrog the Tigers. The youth of those sides have been getting more exposure over the past 2 seasons and should be primed level up.

Your 2021 draft haul, as you've singled out, haven't played a lot of senior footy collectively or together yet. 2024 might be the time it happens, but a lot will need to go right for them to all have an immediate impact on results.

Also didn't think Brown had debuted yet, but that's my mistake.

 

[The Nostradamus]

They were bottom 6 this year where is the improvement coming from losing Riewoldt doesn’t help

I think it will come down to if they have a fit lynch and dusty for the full year

If not I can easily see tigers bottom 4

 

[mattpolo8]

for gits and shiggles

1. Brisbane
2. Collingwood
3. Carlton
4. Sydney
5. Port
6. GWS
7. Melbourne
8. Adelaide
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9. Gold Coast
10. Bulldogs
11. Geelong
12. St Kilda
13. Freo
14. Essendon
15. Hawthorn
16. Richmond
17. North
18. West Coast

• Can see anyone one of GWS, Port replacing Sydney in the top 4. Bias aside, just think Sydney are going to get better then last year
• Can see Adelaide being higher
• Can see Geeong lower
• Who tf knows St Kilda, Essendon, Dogs
• Still not sure where Essendons improvement comes from

 

[Blackhawk42]

That's probably the most sickening top 3 I've ever seeeeeeen

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The media narrative would be hilarious with an Essendon vs Fremantle Grand Final.

Every neutral in Australia would be going for the Dockers, but the major headline would be 'Bombers one step away from fairytale premiership'.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Brisbane
Sydney
Carlton
St Kilda
Collingwood
GC
Fremantle
GWS

Geelong
Adelaide
Melbourne
Port Adelaide
Essendon
Richmond
Western Bulldogs
WCE
North
Hawthorn

 

[tiger_tough]

With all due respect, if it was that simple I'd be expecting Adelaide, Gold Coast and Hawthorn in particular to easily leapfrog the Tigers. The youth of those sides have been getting more exposure over the past 2 seasons and should be primed level up.

Your 2021 draft haul, as you've singled out, haven't played a lot of senior footy collectively or together yet. 2024 might be the time it happens, but a lot will need to go right for them to all have an immediate impact on results.

Also didn't think Brown had debuted yet, but that's my mistake.

I didn't say anything about gc, hawthorn or Crows. Just that we won't be bottom 4.

 

[adammania9]

They've all debuted. None of them are first or 2nd year players.

Improvement generally comes from youth, of which we should have quite a few ready to take a step up IMO.

You've named a series of players who are not close to 50 games. Experience is a better measure than just age. Sonsie, Clarke, Banks, Gibcus, Brown, Bauer, Ryan, Cumberland and Young have played a total of 107 games between them, an average of 13.4 per player. Not much of a young core to expect serious projection.

Significant improvement (particularly consistency) will more often come from the 50-100 game group. Balta (85), Jack Ross (63) and Jakob Koschitzke (48) are the only three players on your list in this experience range (not including Pickett who will be 32 next year), and only Balta promises to be a good player as of now. Mansell, Ralphsmith and Rioli at 32, 32 and 27 games respectively are the only other players on the list that can possibly play their 50th game this season, and we'd all be surprised if their form pertains to them staying in the team all year.

The list is very much the make-up of a rebuilding side very likely to finish bottom four.

 

[Joao]

The reality is, at least one team that finishes bottom 4 probably enter the season with finals expectations. That assumes that none of the bottom 3 improve significantly as well meaning it could be more than one team.

So even though some fans might feel like opposition fans are trolling them putting them bottom 4, someone is going to finish there despite rating themselves now. It's crazy how even the middle of the ladder was this year.

 

[tiger_tough]

You've named a series of players who are not close to 50 games. Experience is a better measure than just age. Sonsie, Clarke, Banks, Gibcus, Brown, Bauer, Ryan, Cumberland and Young have played a total of 107 games between them, an average of 13.4 per player. Not much of a young core to expect serious projection.

Significant improvement (particularly consistency) will more often come from the 50-100 game group. Balta (85), Jack Ross (63) and Jakob Koschitzke (48) are the only three players on your list in this experience range (not including Pickett who will be 32 next year), and only Balta promises to be a good player as of now. Mansell, Ralphsmith and Rioli at 32, 32 and 27 games respectively are the only other players on the list that can possibly play their 50th game this season, and we'd all be surprised if their form pertains to them staying in the team all year.

The list is very much the make-up of a rebuilding side very likely to finish bottom four.

The core group of Martin, Lynch, Bolton, Prestia, Taranto, Hopper, Nankervis, Baker, Short, Rioli, Vlastuin, Balta, Broad etc are too good for us to be finishing bottom 4 with a decent game plan and a coach who wants to be there.

We will not be bottom 4.

 

[adammania9]

The core group of Martin, Lynch, Bolton, Prestia, Taranto, Hopper, Nankervis, Baker, Short, Rioli, Vlastuin, Balta, Broad etc are too good for us to be finishing bottom 4 with a decent game plan and a coach who wants to be there.

We will not be bottom 4.

With a good injury run that’s half of a team every week. Who is filling the other half? We can’t comment on the game plan because we don’t know what it is yet. It might be no good.

 

[Orange crush]

With a good injury run that’s half of a team every week. Who is filling the other half? We can’t comment on the game plan because we don’t know what it is yet. It might be no good.

If he has moved from the Dees then it will be contest, contest, bomb it long

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

The reality is, at least one team that finishes bottom 4 probably enter the season with finals expectations. That assumes that none of the bottom 3 improve significantly as well meaning it could be more than one team.

So even though some fans might feel like opposition fans are trolling them putting them bottom 4, someone is going to finish there despite rating themselves now. It's crazy how even the middle of the ladder was this year.

Had similar thinking in throwing together mine. Quite a few teams could go either way in 2024(looking at you, Melbourne) with queries on the coach, the list, their off-field, and a lot of teams fail to back it up after top 4 finishes.



1. Carlton
2. GWS
3. Sydney
4. Gold Coast
5. Collingwood
6. Brisbane
7. Port Adelaide
8. Geelong
- - - -
9. Fremantle
10. Essendon
11. Hawthorn
12. Adelaide
13. Melbourne
14. Western Bulldogs
15. St Kilda
16. Richmond
17. West Coast
18. North

 

[Footy Smarts]

I think it will come down to if they have a fit lynch and dusty for the full year

If not I can easily see tigers bottom 4

Lynch is already admitting that he'll miss a chunk of the preseason but is hoping to make round 1. Won't be fully fit you'd think.

Martin made the AA squad last year so not a lot of improvement to come there.

They should have too many good players in their prime to be real cellar dwellers. But most of them had good years last year and they were still pretty bad so it's hard to see where the real improvement comes from outside of Lynch. Maybe it all fell apart under Dimma last year and they can turn it around with a new coach.

 

[Sewer de Lance]

I think next season will be a tipsters nightmare, in particular games featuring Hawthorn, Gold Coast, Essendon & Adelaide.

The Premiership is wide open for me, only good fortune & injuries seperate Collingwood, Brisbane, GWS, Melbourne, Carlton & Sydney.

As for the wooden spoon, might be a long season for both WA teams.

 

[tiger_tough]

With a good injury run that’s half of a team every week. Who is filling the other half? We can’t comment on the game plan because we don’t know what it is yet. It might be no good.

Id have Gibcus, Tylar Young, Ross, Cumberland, Banks, Kosi and one of Ryan/Bauer as locks with 3 spots up for grabs out of Pickett, McIntosh, Graham, Dow, Grimes, Rioli Jr plus the kids.

There's no glaring weakness. I repeat, we will not be bottom 4 (barring an injury crisis).

 

[TheUnicorn]

Id have Gibcus, Tylar Young, Ross, Cumberland, Banks, Kosi and one of Ryan/Bauer as locks with 3 spots up for grabs out of Pickett, McIntosh, Graham, Dow, Grimes, Rioli Jr plus the kids.

There's no glaring weakness. I repeat, we will not be bottom 4 (barring an injury crisis).

How about bottom 5?

 

[Mr Meow]

Id have Gibcus, Tylar Young, Ross, Cumberland, Banks, Kosi and one of Ryan/Bauer as locks with 3 spots up for grabs out of Pickett, McIntosh, Graham, Dow, Grimes, Rioli Jr plus the kids.

There's no glaring weakness. I repeat, we will not be bottom 4 (barring an injury crisis).

Richmond, like Geelong, have upside based on getting a key player back and (likely) having a better injury run. While it wasn't as consistently overwhelming as Geelong's, there were patches through the year where Richmond were playing very depleted.

From memory their close game winning % was down too (same for Geelong) so it doesn't take a lot for that to flip even on similar form.

I think it's the bottom 4 type projections for both sides are fanciful.

 

[tiger_tough]

Richmond, like Geelong, have upside based on getting a key player back and (likely) having a better injury run. While it wasn't as consistently overwhelming as Geelong's, there were patches through the year where Richmond were playing very depleted.

From memory their close game winning % was down too (same for Geelong) so it doesn't take a lot for that to flip even on similar form.

I think it's the bottom 4 type projections for both sides are fanciful.

Ours was worse than Geelongs both in terms of total games missed and total games missed to best 22 in August. Not sure if there was an updated injury ladder post season. But yes I agree, neither will be bottom 4.

 

[tiger_tough]

How about bottom 5?

Bottom 15

 

[Milanista28]

I think next season will be a tipsters nightmare, in particular games featuring Hawthorn, Gold Coast, Essendon & Adelaide.

The Premiership is wide open for me, only good fortune & injuries seperate Collingwood, Brisbane, GWS, Melbourne, Carlton & Sydney.

As for the wooden spoon, might be a long season for both WA teams.

Extremely even