List Mgmt. 2024 List Management 📃

[Lukeblueboy]

What about wicks?

 

[BlueJet]

You could be right. Fogarty got a lifeline based on such a small sample size. Its not hard to imagine it happens in reverse.

If you line that up with Austin's recruitment of Fantasia and Hollands it starts to add up if you think about Acres/Hollands and the changes in wingers.

Those you've named all play different roles.
Hollands/Fog present more of a threat to someone like DC.
Owies is in competition with Motlop, Durdin & Fantasia, presently he's outperforming them.
It would be a surprise to see Owies moved on barring something significant happening.

 

[TENACIOUS]

I want to hear your thoughts on why Marchbank is safe? I along with many others are critical of our injury list and to an extent the LM team for carrying so many injury prone players, so I’m wondering why you would consider our second worst player injury wise, as safe?

Marchbank is in his 10th season of AFL footy, he’s played 61 games and after being injured all pre-season, played one game and is now injured medium term again.

We don’t have any other talented tall defender options to replace him with…

Coaches obviously rate him highly, when fit he’s a first choice defender (over Kemp)…

Current injury, was a collision injury… Happened right in front of us, his head hit the ground extremely hard…

Can see him getting another 1 year deal…

 

[macky99]

Cunners does have leg-speed and good delivery.
Still needs to string together a reasonable sequence of games this year to survive.
I'd keep him over Marchy.

l believe Cunningham is overrated on here, aside from having ongoing durability fitness concerns, he does a couple of flashy things, but just does not contribute enough.

As others have mentioned we cannot be a premiership contender until we cull some of the players that are injured every year.
The next month is going to be very challenging with so many unavailable players.

 

[DangerousD]

We don’t have any other talented tall defender options to replace him with…

Coaches obviously rate him highly, when fit he’s a first choice defender (over Kemp)…

Current injury, was a collision injury… Happened right in front of us, his head hit the ground extremely hard…

Can see him getting another 1 year deal…

I would be very surprised if he gets another deal.
Marchy has barely played for us since he arrived, so he’s already been replaced.

His talent has never really been questioned and he seems highly rated, he’s currently out with a fractured back, not really related to the head.

Time will tell.

 

[Crippa#9]

l believe Cunningham is overrated on here, aside from having ongoing durability fitness concerns, he does a couple of flashy things, but just does not contribute enough.

As others have mentioned we cannot be a premiership contender until we cull some of the players that are injured every year.
The next month is going to be very challenging with so many unavailable players.

Have been a staunch defender of Cuningham over the years but hard to disagree with the above. Just simply not durable enough for AFL footy, nor is Marchbank. I like Cunners' laid back attitude but after all these years one has to question his approach to rehab, recovery, injury prevention and his desire to get his body in absolute peak condition for the demands required.

Nick Austin's player acquisition focus should be based on two factors: durability and those who can kick the footy well under pressure. Talent & development has certainly taken us up a level but at present we have far too many players on the list that don't meet these fundamentals. It will eventually, inevitably take its toll.

 

[BlueJet]

Availability is the most important attribute, throw inconsistent output into the mix and we should be looking to move on.
Unfortunately, we have a few players like this, which can be accepted when you're a struggling side hoping to find some low-cost gems but when you're in a premiership window you need pressure on spots and players with the capacity to step up when needed.

 

[Juice030103]

Hayward and Ainsworth are must targets

 

[Juice030103]

Personally I’d get rid of cunners Martin and marchy. Not many agree with that but they are unreliable and I’d rather someone with half the talent but actually plays to be on the list

 

[Soapy V]

If you look at the last decade of Premiership sides that have always had one of the best injury lists. Look at our current list and possible/probable best 22 and how often they get on the park and playing well

S.Durdin 6th AFL season 23 games
Williams 11th Season 141 games.
McGovern. 10th season. 115 games
Marchbank. 9th season. 61 games
Martin 10th season 148 games
Cuningham 9th season 55 games
Fantasia 10th season 104 games
Silvagni. 9th season 115 games (won't add more this year)
Docherty 11th season 168 games (won't add more this year)

It's nearly a quarter of our list. That is a very poor return especially when you are carrying so many injury prone players. You can carry 2 or 3 (maybe) but having a list like this makes it hard to challenge let alone gain some cohesion and trust in each other

They also need to play games to build up and hit some form. Makes it worse

To win it all you need your best 22 senior players up and running. History proves it virtually impossible otherwise

IMO some tough decisions need to be made at years end

 

[Soapy V]

Have been a staunch defender of Cuningham over the years but hard to disagree with the above. Just simply not durable enough for AFL footy, nor is Marchbank. I like Cunners' laid back attitude but after all these years one has to question his approach to rehab, recovery, injury prevention and his desire to get his body in absolute peak condition for the demands required.

Nick Austin's player acquisition focus should be based on two factors: durability and those who can kick the footy well under pressure. Talent & development has certainly taken us up a level but at present we have far too many players on the list that don't meet these fundamentals. It will eventually, inevitably take its toll.

Cuningham is in his 9th season and played 55 games. 27 years old. We've seen enough

 

[Soapy V]

At this stage we can pick 2 players in mid season draft. Rare that you pick a mature player that can step straight in. Physical step up along with game style etc takes time. It has taken Boyd nearly 3 seasons to step up and he was 22

Hopefully the recruiters can pluck 2 players that can help us into the future. It would really help

Then we will get 2 Campo boys and early indication is they won't cost us much. Odds are we will keep our first round pick to draft or trade.

is there another Acres/Hollands deal out there?

Caleb Daniel

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Caleb Daniel

Age

28

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

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Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

could be available cheap. Mature player with very good ball use which we need
Hayward is a FA but likely SA or Swans

The development of Moir Wilson Cowan Carroll Lemmey O'Keefe Binns Hollands Monahan is also vital. We need at least 3 or 4 to step up

Bottom line is our list needs a "refresh". Some mature ready to go and some quality youth. We have a core of Cripps Walsh Weitering Curnow McKay Saad Newman Williams Hewett Acres Docherty all at their peak and ready to challenge. We need to help them and challenge NOW

 

[DangerousD]

Personally I’d get rid of cunners Martin and marchy. Not many agree with that but they are unreliable and I’d rather someone with half the talent but actually plays to be on the list

If moving the three of them on allowed us to get a quality player, who’s reliable then its fine.

 

[agro]

I don’t want to say something in case I say something.

 

[Crippa#9]

At this stage we can pick 2 players in mid season draft. Rare that you pick a mature player that can step straight in. Physical step up along with game style etc takes time. It has taken Boyd nearly 3 seasons to step up and he was 22

Hopefully the recruiters can pluck 2 players that can help us into the future. It would really help

Then we will get 2 Campo boys and early indication is they won't cost us much. Odds are we will keep our first round pick to draft or trade.

is there another Acres/Hollands deal out there?

Caleb Daniel could be available cheap. Mature player with very good ball use which we need
Hayward is a FA but likely SA or Swans

The development of Moir Wilson Cowan Carroll Lemmey O'Keefe Binns Hollands Monahan is also vital. We need at least 3 or 4 to step up

Bottom line is our list needs a "refresh". Some mature ready to go and some quality youth. We have a core of Cripps Walsh Weitering Curnow McKay Saad Newman Williams Hewett Acres Docherty all at their peak and ready to challenge. We need to help them and challenge NOW

HAYWARD is the one I want. Perfect fit for the glaring hole in our list.

 

[Blue since 72]

I don’t want to say something in case I say something.

Just say it.

 

[bigm386]

If moving the three of them on allowed us to get a quality player, who’s reliable then its fine.

If moving all 3 on allows us to bring in three reliable players we can develop it would be an upgrade.

The three combined cannot string together 23 games. It's ridiculous.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

HAYWARD is the one I want. Perfect fit for the glaring hole in our list.

I had to re-read. Initially thought you said glory

 

[bigm386]

I'd be going after Josh Battle

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Josh Battle

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

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Def

Career

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Last 5

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12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

as a free agent.

 

[Gw2_James]

Here's one for the footy geeks out there:

If we replace Marchbank, Mcgovern, Martin, Cuningham with like for like players from other clubs, who do we pick and what does that do to our squad?

 

[JJBagger]

I'd be going after Josh Battle as a free agent.

This is more along the lines of an Acres signing. Very handy player

 

[Arr0w]

Here's one for the footy geeks out there:

If we replace Marchbank, Mcgovern, Martin, Cuningham with like for like players from other clubs, who do we pick and what does that do to our squad?

As in cheapish, durable and OOC?

Cuners - McHenry/Guelfi/Peatling
McGovern - Cumming/Rotham
Martin - Hayward/Fox
Marchbank Melican/Miller

 

[Aphrodite]

I'd be going after Josh Battle as a free agent.

RFA

 

[bigm386]

RFA

Listed as unrestricted

Who's on the table? Full list of 2024 free agents revealed

The AFL has confirmed its list of players that qualify for free agency in 2024

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[Gw2_James]

As in cheapish, durable and OOC?

Cuners - McHenry/Guelfi/Peatling
McGovern - Cumming/Rotham
Martin - Hayward/Fox
Marchbank Melican/Miller

As in swap them out for a player in the same position who is rated/viewed as a similar quality player. Just a fun hypothetical what if scenario i guess.

If we swap our players for the ones you mentioned, do you think that improves us? Maybe a dip in quality but perhaps more reliable?